Is the patriarchy idpol or is it a real thing?

It's real. Ignore the brocialist scum who have infested this place recently.

It benefits the strongest.

Patriarchy is just another name for the dominance hierarchies that males compete in for access to females for the purposes of breeding.

It benefits the ones who try their hardest to deny that it exists.

Implying imageboard betas benefit from patriarchy.

How did I possibly imply that?

I'm assuming you're talking about the west

If you wanna talk about systematic oppression go whine about it in Saudi Arabia where women are actually oppressed, in America and Europe its the other way around.

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But user, those things are all the result of women being seen as lesser.

False. Females don't deny that it exists.

I didn't imply anything about previous systems.

You need to be delusional or really dumb and misled to believe this

Capitalism encourages the propogation of both sexism and equality in different communities. See

Patriarchy exists and is bad for men and women alike because it alienates men from parts of their own emotional lives and from women.

I oppose identity politics in all its forms, and by any honest assessment sexism is still a problem. The solution to it of course is not to restrict speech and attack any and all men as cishet racist sinners who need to cut off their penises and apologize for historical contingencies. Sober education along with of course the most important removal of profit incentive would make it much easier to stop things like allowing rapists to remain at universities, etc.

i cant even tell if this is Holla Forums or reddit

dont say brocialist u faggot

Feudalism was a system of equality!

Why are women so bad at picking partners?

A lot of those """benefits""" are based around the womans assigned role as a mother.

The material conditions of capitalism do not discriminate at all between men and women, but they can easily accomodate and commodify our ideological insistence on a difference.

No, because the systematic oppression of women is not down to social factors but economic ones. Pic related.

They aren't assigned that role by anything other than nature. Also, half of the things I listed go against that are taxpayer funded abortions pro mother? Are affirmative action programs to drive women into the workforce pro mother?

Many women like dangerous men because dangerous men are good at competing in a dangerous world.

obv its chad thundercock and his irresistable manliness who keeps seducing all the women and im furious because he wont bend me over and fuck me i mean uhhh uhhhh let me have any of my share of white wimminz not like in my perfect society where waifus are distributed equally and/or daddy fascism helps me reach my full masculine potential

no but actually its because most people are pretty dumb and the home is a space of exception where the dominant person in relationship holds authority and thats usually the man

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even if women are naturally more inclined to raise children (i believe this) there is no justification for laws and regulatory structures enforcing motherhood as the intended place for women, its still an arbitrary placement of expectations and responsibilities that lead to tons of people who dont want or cant handle kids having kids and filling them with ridiculous neuroses i.e. the nuclear family as we have it now. No people shouldnt be stopped from having a family if they want to even if theyre dumb and incapable but do you think so many people want to because thats just how it is or because they live in a society in which its a desirable path?

The majority or rape victims are men, so are the majority or murder victims. Your stats are pretty meaningless in that sense, other than to prove that the majority of personal murders are wives and girlfriends, which is just commonsense.

I said patriarchy exists in the sense that men and women are treated differently, but the very word and how must people use it implies some sort of male supremacy or higher level of muh privilege, when it's just not true. Men are more likely to be CEOs and politicians, but they're also much more likely to be homeless, jailed, or criminally victimized.
Honestly, and I'm not trying to sound like a robot, how are women treated badly by the current system? The biggest issues seem to be the "wage gap", which is just women not wanting the jobs that pay more, and "reproductive rights", which just amounts to conservatives not liking abortion, and insurance costing more because women have more health concerns than men, which is just an enact factor of Capitalism.

We're talking about currently existing "patriarchy". Obviously feudalism was extremely patriarchal in the literal sense.

Indeed. Obviously Capitalism doesn't care about anything except profits. By Capitalism I was more specifically referring to the present system.

I disagree. I do not think procreation is a right because I do not think most people should have the right to create and control a human. A shitty parent and childhood follows you for life.

Disgusting Jew freak.

Your problem here is your dismissal of it as just conservative opinion as if we live in an actually democratic society where the opinion of conservatives determines policy. Remember that the construction of these social interests are not accidental, they dont happen in a void among rational agents. Bible thumping conservatism was a very conscious and smart theme for the representatives of the capitalist class to select for.

Theres several factors that do really intersect and thats a good way to describe it even tho theyre all tied into capitalism and its maintenance and intersectionalism as its commonly understood is shit

Capitalism wants a surplus force of unskilled or very narrowly skilled labor. Women who dont have money, so most women like most men, cant afford to get abortions. This helps the capitalist because now theres children that will groe up to be dumb and obediant enough to be a prole or be dumb and disobediant enough to get arrested and be used as prison labor. But how do you justify this? With ideology, and the easiest thing to do is work through middle parties to enforce already existing ideologies that agree with you. So the capitalist profits from all of it and it all reflects well on them: the conservatives are the racists/sexists, look how permissive were allowed to be! And because overt sex descrimination is almost entirely banned, it's easy to say, hey we dont literally have laws degrading women, those are just peoples personal opinions. Of course those are opinions that come from an ideogical coping to a persons circumstances. Then we get into a loop where poor men enforce sexist norms and degrade women because of their own very legitemate sense of powerlessness and this to liberals legitmizes falsely their beliefs about bigoted proles not being worth saving.

Hope that makes sense. Also source please on men being raped more than women I do find that hard to believe

No, since patriarchy would imply a society wherein power and muh privilege are distributed entirely or mainly along gender lines rather than class lines. Just because bourgeois males dominant bourgeois females doesn't make men as a whole dominant. If this were the case then we could expect to see male workers holding power over bourgeois females, but this is clearly not how things are.

Why would you do this

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It’s real you fucking clods