On Antifa

What is your opinion on ANTIFA? Useful idiots? Comrades? Just idiots?

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Another good thing American liberals fugged up tbqh

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Comrades, obviously. Sometimes they do retarded shit and their effectiveness varies in different regions but overall they are necessary to make the streets safe for organization.

What I don't get is the situation in the USA, people there seem to use antifa as a buzzword calling everything militant antifa, sometimes even suggesting that it is an ideology in itself. But being retarded is expected from the USA so I dunno.

I was thinking of joining a polish ANTIFA, but those guys are fucking pussies. All they do is yell in the internet and do grafitti. Sad state that we are in tbh. There was this video of them doing something once, they just got fucked by the police so hard it was painfiul to watch.

Bunch of idiots that desperately need to organise

Cointelpro pushing le violent left meme

I've been to my local ANTIFA open nights here in eastern europe but they are having money problems, they are cutting down on events, they don't even protest anymore and the personel associated are putting more energy on idpol than class consciousness. They don't even bother to fight nazis or anything, but I forgive them, because neo-nazis in eastern europe are pretty many, and known anti-fa punks knowing to any bigger punk events tend to get targeted by skinheads who skulk around.

Sadly I angered my local ANTIFA and it's leader for having a short alt-right period and they don't speak or trust me anymore (can't blame them, it was my retarded choice which I must own) but I hope there are other organizations I can join or help locally in the future.

Funny enough, or biggest social justice/left wing group popular with many youngsters, especially girls, in my country is some animal rights group. It's surprisingly active, full of vegans and sometimes gets quite radical, by trashing the stores that sell fur coats and stuff.

Pic not related, just looks cute and is complimentary for you Holla Forums reading my long ramblings.

Ew, ecoterrorists.

Doing more than most of the memelords here. The state and fash needs to feel some form of threat however small.

Although American Anti-fa is irredeemably whack, apart from the gun club ones. Euro antifa retains a modicum of cred.

Join Action Front fam

Most of the time they do peaceful protests, they are not too radical desu. Pic related.


I can't join any violent groups, I am a nerdy guy and will get my ass kicked. I am looking forward to get back into graffiti activism thingy in the future though, or some other form of peaceful activism.

we aren't violent and so far Graffitii is exactly what we have been doing like pic related. We are gathering anons to share messages on the walls around the world (and other things besides)

Whenever I see one I want to become a hardcore conservative.

Animal liberation groups usually just set animals free, they rarely bomb scientists at universities. They can cause a lot of economic and PR damage to porky's businesses.

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Would definitely have consensual sex with

Comrades who are actually doing something.
But they are festered with feminists and idpol so there is that you know.

Doing what exactly?

Antifa should stop trying to steal the A.L.F.'s look.

You're a retard, m8

Well antifa where I live have set up communal feed stores for free pardon my bad English I'm not an ameriburger
And the list goes on and on

Appearing in large numbers as a uniformed crowd, showing the fash that they are outnumbered wherever they arise and intimidating them in this way.

Normalising leftist militant tactics.

etc etc etc

who?

This so much this

That looks neat, keep up the work! I would like to engage in similar stuff, mostly leaving posters, doing graffiti and stuff like that.

Pics related, did some non-stencil graffiti to abandoned building next to art school about 3 years ago. It offended some SJW chick who lectured me that I ruined her favourite smoking spot and that my tagline offends religious people or some BS.

I know it looks edgy crap, would be more like you now on, but just so you know.

nah looks dank family.

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Antifa is too disconnected from working people, and too focused on opposition/protesting. It keeps veering towards lifestylism instead of building a broader movement and attracting wider bases of support.

It'd help if they were more rooted in physical anticapitalist/communist spaces, and thus practiced defensive action rather then constantly being on the offensive. Maybe they do do this, but all the antifa stuff I've seen involves righties/nazis holding a rally or trying to do something, and protesters showing up to denounce or intimidate them. Instead, antifa could rally around defending social housing or free clinics or whatever against the "radical right" trying to destroy them. It'd make them look good and would reverse the retarded "violent lefties out to kill innocent fascists" narrative that's being pushed.

That looks pretty sick my dude

I actually like the last one a lot.
No gods, no masters is the best slogan to get new people involved tbh.

I'll hit you up fam


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What movie is this?

Why are you doing English graffiti if you are in Estonia?

🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧their🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 reach knows no bounds

They're a fucking cancer who are just as bad as the Trumpcucks they're fighting. Fags, all of them.

t.Mr Rational Middle Ground (the ruling ideology)

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Nah not even, I just want a militant organisation that isn't a threat to free speech and not focused on idpol

ALS is cool in my book.
People planing to do real activism should check out their martial arts video youtu.be/QTQ_tNNFYog?t=25s

But none of them preach racial genocide to any degree and none of them are die hard class cucks. So they are in fact much better. Perhaps they are Leftlibs, so what? That is a large part of our recruitment ground

To fight fascism you need leftists willing to do violence.
Leftist organizations will always attract idpol
Violent organizations will attract hooligans

Antifa therefore is both necessary for our movement as a whole, but will also have the unfortunate mix of idpol and hooligans. Critical support or participation is best option. Universal condemnation is retarded.

I was interning in some Riga (latvian capital) art school outside of Estonia. It's in english because I don't know latvian but latvians understand english.

What's the movie?

Both sides are paid shills.

An anti-fascist is anyone who defends themselves against fascism on purpose.
If this is a problem with you, I wonder why you insist on allowing fascists to do whatever they want without consequence. Protecting your friends?

They look like fascists.

Good to get into if you're a PUA with the risk of being put on a watchlist by the Feds and Neo-Nazi groups.

She's literally my dream gf

no better way to shatter the dream than achieving it

This.
It'd also help if they targeted actual class enemies instead of engaging in farcical street "brawls" with misguided proles while shouting that everyone who was desperate enough to vote for Trump after decades of being ignored by the Democrats is somehow a fascist.

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Imagine being this dumb

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It differs by each small group. Some are good too many are idiots.

fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Warriors
Documentary about them and other groups: youtube.com/watch?v=UU07m_Cr-jg

Most of them are.
According to the government and groups like SPLC, the number of people who actually belong to genuinely far right organizations is no more than 20,000.
That's out out of more than 300 million people.
Do the actual ones need stomping?
Yes.
But antifa is conflating pissed off Trump supporters with fascism, instead of pointing them to a socialist alternative, and then attacking them for it.

Okja

Pick up artist?

Just neg that bitch's favourite theorists.

How do i start one of these where i live

I think they need to bash more fascists.

the idea is good, but there are a lot of idpolers and middle class kids who just use it as an excuse to beat people up.
In reality the majority of the far right (at least the ones that go outside) tend to be made up of disenfranchised working class who are fed up with liberalism and misinformed about what leftism means. They are then easily taken advantage of by right wing populists and turned into 'fascists'.These people feel like the left has forgotten about them so what do we do? Call them racist and beat them up of course! That'll help.
Of course there is need for violent anti fascist action but the way things are going now at least in my country seem counterproductive. Anti fascism doesn't always have to be violent, it can be education too and productive rather than destructive. How many NAZIs do you reckon have been punched at a rally, then gone home and rethought their ideology? It's clearly not an effective way to make significant change.

Wow when did the annihil poster turn full liberal?

Decades ago, anti-fascism was a legitimate political subculture that recognized fascism as the anti-rational mental infection that it is and knew that society had to be cleaned of it from the bottom up. It was not an ideology in itself as much as it was a name ascribed to the common goal of varying leftist groups to put an end to what they agreed was a bigger threat to the future of human society than even the worst left wing movement, something so proudly inhuman that it was worth collaborating with the Anglos to take down at its peak. Western conservatives have always hated it because they are dumb enough to think fascists weren't the biggest threat to their faith and heritage, presumably because gullibility is necessary to become a conservative to begin with (something even other rightists will admit).

Then came the Cold War, and ideological warfare became a matter of mind. The direct use of violence against citizens with different opinions was slowly becoming political suicide, so the American feds opted for subversion instead, and after successfully dismantling their own radical political movements, used the permanent excuse of the existence of the USSR to salt the earth that the Western far left was grown in. Now it's become a tradition of its own: radical politics are now simply an outlet for liberal young adults to LARP in public. This was already the case just a few years ago in Europe, where anarchists had long since become a joke, and when it became a thing in the US, the term "antifa" had no real meaning beyond said LARPing, so they have no pretense of former relevance to fall back on and are universally despised.

From a public standpoint, the ultimate goal of the dominant ideology is for the populace to be mentally incapable of even having undesirable views. Modern "antifa" are an example of this: to the average person, they symbolize the idea that having views that deviate significantly from the norm is for spoiled children that want attention.

please argue against my points rather than just calling me a liberal.

It's not about making change, it's about preventing damage.

Counterproductive idpol garbage. Most of them aren't even proletarian, just bored university students and humanities graduates trying to find meaning in their alienated lives through useless violence.

Real action on the left should be done primarily by educating people, like the early socialists in Europe and the early Black Panthers. Obviously we should not shrink from violence, but the violence has to be necessary applied in an orderly fashion.

Antifa needs to show people that it's more than black bloc and smashies, their image is garbage nowadays. Maybe it sounds Liberal and reformist, but they should legit do some community service work, get to know the people, talk about and post good and solid information around town. Host a meet-up, organize your community and get them involved. Stop playing the stickers & posters war.

man I'm sure glad I don't get my opinions from fucking memes

Community service work isn't directly fighting fascism, it wouldn't be reasonable to call it anti-fascist action then. It would just be anarchists doing community service work, which they do. That already happens.
There's a problem of perception I think, with people treating anarchists like a centralized group.

You're missing the point, they call themselves "anti-fascists" because they are post-structuralist college kids that think anything they disapprove of is fascism.

Their use of violence isn't bad because violence is wrong, it's bad because they are wrong, and retarded. They just want to start fights in public because to them, all radical politics are for is to give rich, entitled pissants an excuse to act as they please, because as the children of the ruling class they believe they are entitled to it.

kek, no. You can't just, go on the internet and tell lies. Besides anti-fascism is not an organization. Every real leftist knows this.

Deep criticism m8. I wonder why you think community self defense against right wing aggression is such a wicked sin? :^)
Apparently standing up to aggression is aggression. Who knew.
Fascism rises with support from the petit-bourgeois and bourgeois, ecks dee

How long until we begin distancing ourselves from theft? Piracy? Revolution?
Insurrection is already a dirty word here.

This. Capitalism has gone into overdrive and commoditized radical politics itself. youtube.com/watch?v=73P9STckPLw

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You can't just denounce everything that capitalism corrupts. Capitalism has turned fucking marxism into a commodity. Jesus you fucking tools.

ANTIFA's violent elements are mostly idiots, they invest far too much effort into projects that elicit far too little change in return. Punching someone for wearing a Pepe t-shirt or spraypainting slogans on the side of a subway train isn't going to get anyone anywhere. Honestly, I almost feel like a large number of them don't actually want to change anything - they want to be locked in a permanent struggle as the "underdog" so they have an excuse to go out and assault random people.

I honestly feel like if ANTIFA was actually "anti-fascist" and not just "anti-alt right" we'd see a lot more government offices being bombed and officials being assassinated. Finding where Twitter user "DigimonOtis" lives and kicking his head in because he posted some mean things does nothing to actually end fascism. James Hodgkinson has affected more change than the whole of ANTIFA's violent arm combined. ANTIFA needs to step up it's game and do more than just roleplaying as xXx-le-edgy-n4zi-hunt3r-xXx.

Trump is just a distraction, in a few years it'll be back to the usual neoliberal bullshit and the Holla Forumsacks will have crawled back into their mancave. Just watch fucking videos of Kekistani protests, do you really think these guys are a threat? They probably can't even stand their ground on a college campus, much less the entire country. And yet this is who Antifa wastes all their energy fighting. The real threat is Porky.

Reactionaries

How sheltered can one man be?

Nice strawman

Depends where you are but for the most part, no.

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Pretty sure the only atrocities Holla Forums have ever managed to commit is their continued existence. It's hard to engage in an act of terror from within your parent's basement.

this is what I agree with. If this was what antifa was actually about I'd support it fully. But (at least here) it isn't really, it's mostly liberal middle class university students who think donald trump is a literal NAZI

this

Let me rephrase it for you so you can't pretend it's a strawman.
Right wing violence is real. If it is not opposed it will continue unopposed. That means people will become the victims of violence. People don't like that. They will organize to prevent it. This is a demonstration of why statelessness is possible.


Nice one. ecks dee my friend.

Did do stuff with American antifa for a little. I felt like we were just out there to pick fights with the right (which I'm fine with) but I wanted to do more to protect my class rather than engage in war with an opposing ideology. Now I'm in the IWW and participate in the GDC quite often.

most of them are feds or useful idiots for the feds. some are ok. they are not a monolith and i bet if they took the mask off and chilled the fuck out they'd all be quite cool.

some of them are just uptight pussies though and have no backbone so they really are just taking out their insecurities on everyone and it makes everyone look bad.

Liberal idiots.

yeah its black propaganda from the right htat causes people to think this. its easier to just say "antifa" than explain everytime so i think for the right it makes sense to just characterize it as a 'terrorist organization' or w/e.

any reasonably well read leftist will know you're a fucking retard if they see seomeone pontificating about 'antifas' or 'antifaism' or some shit like its an actual ideology

lol pretty much this. and its funny because they go out and smash a window and then write 2000 word essays on 'violence' and tell everyone its not violent, like we're all shocked that they destroy property… it comes off as super pretentious and edgy listening to someone pontificate about violence who has never killed someone or lit a bomb or anything themselves. and yet, this is super common with anarchists and the whole 'debate' on pacifism. they're so quick to shout you down acting like they're speaking from experience when most of the time they are repeating things they read written by someone else.

imho anarchism died with galleani and the egoists of the early 20th century and late 19th. nowadays it is just a fairy tale or it's become like a religion.

marxism seems to have become the same thing… too many religious fags get into marxism for all the wrong reasons im noticing. none of them get into it for self interest or material motivations.. its always based on their shitty morals or something they read in the bible.

i just dont get it.

/endrant

**and just to clarify i say this as a dude who agrees with anarchists on pretty much all accounts but probably still sees the need for a DOTP of some sort.

i just dont think id ever want to identify as anything anymore because of the idiots ive seen in the media with the 'three arrows' symbol and whatever else.

that old 'enemy of my enemy is not my friend' trope rings deeply true for me. i like people, but only if i am able to keep them at a distance and my interaction with them is at my own discretion.

its always rubbed me the wrong way that a lot of these types of folks look totally emasculated or just like they dont take care of themselves.

the anarchists in the 1900s were true badasses. they didn't openly talk shit without backing it up. i truly believe those folks were cut from a different cloth than the types we have now.

just my 2 cents…

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First as tragedy, then as farce
Remember, as capitalism further metastasizes the people in the system will change as well to reflect the conditions. We aren't outside of capitalism, we are all influenced actors who exist within it. As capitalism grows more and enters into its later stages the people within the system will internalize the system and reflect it. The general products that are distributed among the populace will also be both cheaper and of lower quality meaning that we become trapped in a cycle where the majority prole consuming these products will also reflect them making revolutionary potential far less effective then before.

Fuck this shit, they are just idiots and the left shouldn't give a fuck about them. We they start shooting some cops/congressman/CEO I will respect them for now they are just agressive liberals

As they exist now (esp in the US) they're useful idiots for the interests of capital. The establishment can point at them and tell the public that this is what leftism looks like and scare a lot of people away.

I want anarcho-softies to leave.

14 year old white kids need to learn that fascism is not a trendy meme. It's something that can get them killed. There's literally nothing wrong with beating underage fascists. You are doing them a service really.

But you'll turn them into actual fascists if you beat them up.

Well then I guess it's better if we kill them instead.

As a someone with a rather nationalistic/traditionalist view I'd put them in the "usefull idiots" category.
Our usefull idiots though.

Unfortunately the equivalent on the right (in Europe mostly Skinheads) is not better in any way.

But I guess every political movement has it's Brownshirts.

positive opinion

only fucking faggots would have a negative opinion of one of the only groups in america that are actively bullying shit eaters like richard spencer.

Beating up girls at Milo talks isn't sensible.

it is when those girls actively push for the exploitation and bondage of the proletariat with their mental retardation.

anyone raping the working class with their reactionary ass "votes" deserves to be fucked with. the only person who would disagree with this defensive measure are the right wing and centrist so called "liberals"

You do understand that it was mostly the working class in America that voted for Trump, right? People who don't identify or really know anything about the alt-right. This is coming from someone who actually works with mechanics and machinists.

okja

lol

this fucks make want to puke

Thanks

Oh, if the working class voted for Trump then I guess I have to obey their wishes and aid Trump by any means necessary. Thanks for enlightening me with your advanced dialectics and deep understanding of leftist thought.

Antifa are purely idiotic .
IRA wannabes

Don't complain about antifa if you literally do nothing but meme. Which goes for 95% of you. And of that 5% some of the "active" ones are active in Succdem parties, really I'd wager less than 1% of you are currently engaged in actual revolutionary activity. Maybe none of you. Go outside and do some shit instead of bitching

look again, that isn't GF material, more like a liberal FB

ITT the id/pol/ is showing

rich bored liberal kids who will vote conservative when they turn 40

Antifa is an idea more than a coherent organisation so its implementation varies of course. In America antifa seems heavily contrived and pretty fucking useless. In Greece, for example, antifa have taken over buildings and housed refugees, fed them, taught them how to self organise and basically breadpilled them on anarchism as well as defending them from literal fascists like Golden Dawn. They're heroes.

Seems pretty good to me.

That's not what I said at all, what I'm saying is that instead going out and beating Trump voters like a bunch of reactionaries instead go out and educate the general prole and offer the alternative to the establishment that the working class desperately desires. If you go out and act like an idiot and beat some random voter who thinks they are fighting the "establishment" because they see no other option its not going to draw them any closer to the left, its just going to further alienate them from it and push them deeper into the hands of those who are offering a coherent, albeit manipulative, message.

I'm sorry if I don't want edgy radlibs beating up retards with politically incorrect opinions to represent Leftist and me by proxy.


Literally no one said that you fucking goon.

Stop with this idolization of action. Sometimes doing nothing is better than doing something, especially when that something is the shit antifa does.

The "fascists" they beat are simply people who they disagree with. And there are no real Leftists groups even trying to organize, not like trumptards actually try to disrupt them to begin with.

Sometimes, when it comes to opposing to mobilising right, forming a large crowd in the street to obstruct them is better than doing nothing

Nazi scum are not worth winning over.

Trumptards and pepeposters aren't the
"mobilizing right", they're just retards who should be ignored or educated.

And your petty moralism isn't worth having. Also, sorry, I don't take the word of antifa on who's a nazi.

There is no such thing. Its a term made up by the bourgeoise to make prols think they have wealth.

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More like 300 million

what the fuck why did I respond to this reply. sorry comrade.

Does anyone have the reddit screencap of antifa talking about how they should lift weights to get stronger but one of them says muscles are fascist?

This is where you went wrong

"mobilizing right"

what are they then? Apolitical?

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Most of them are wannabe idiots so I don't know which one is real or not. If you see the pussies in the antifa groups then avoid them as they aren't into action and will run away like cowardices. The rich old guy are actually funding them so the idiots may be in for money, not for the ideology nor folks.

lol in what world, where is your proofs?

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You go in there and find out yourself. I thought you should know that.

pamelageller.com/2016/01/violent-pro-migration-protesters-being-paid-50-an-hour-by-germany-socialist-party-dankeantifa-hitlerian.html/

twitter.com/BevHillsAntifa/status/848741130040623106

madworldnews.com/antifa-porn-star-gofundme/

Do you want more proofs?

Why is the commando guy wearing sport shoes

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Obviously you did not read them.


It is comfy for the Russians

Oh, it's actually just one case. The other is just a scam. You're right I shouldn't rush to conclusions without reading.

That's alright. Next time read first before you jump.

Anarchists make their presence known in Austria by tending to do a bunch of graffiti, tagging, and stickers. I quite like it tbh especially the ones that specifically use the anti-capitalist message. I don't care much or like the refugees welcome stickers but maybe I'm just a spooked nationalist. I much rather them fuck with the state, police, and capitalism that is a bigger problem than refugees will ever be
Pic related what anarchists usually do

Good I hate the capitalism as well but I think they need to sharpen their art skills. If that area isn't visited frequently then it's useless.

This is one case in the country where the far left and far right are probably the most organised on earth so it doesn't really surprise me. Is it any wonder Germany of all places has the most organised antifa?

And all the shit about organizing buses and free beer etc the right to do.

None of this proves that all anti fa are paid like you suggested.

They are edgy liberals.

'Another world is possible' is a better slogan tbh.

…and phantasmed consumers imagine a white nation.

"Imagine a world without wage slavery" would be the bestest, no misunderstanding there.

ALL POWER TO THE IMAGINATION

Antifa's problem is that they are not beating up fascists who actually attack people but edgy liberals or kids who don't physically harm anyone. If you fight the real targets(actual fascists) and let the fascist be the aggressors then you will have the public opinion and people will join, failing to do this will just get both groups banned and hated by the general public.

This will never happen though because Antifa are too retarded to even pick the right targets, for every 1 fascist they manage to punch, 100 socialist, 200 apoliticalfags, 500 liberals, and 800 conservatives get punched.

Dumbfuck smashies that have no tactics. Read Alinsky.


audience—and gives full respect to the other's values—would have ruled out attacks on the American flag. The responsible organizer would have known that it is the establishment that has betrayed the flag while the flag,itself, remains the glorious symbol of America's hopes and aspirations, and he would have conveyed this message to his audience. On another level of communication, humor is essential, for through humor much is
accepted that would have been rejected if presented seriously. This is a sad and lonely generation. It laughs too little, and this, too, is tragic.


barrel of a gun!" is an absurd rallying cry when the other side has all the guns. Lenin was a pragmatist; when he returned to what was then Petrograd from exile, he said that the Bolsheviks stood for getting power through the ballot but would reconsider after they got the guns! Militant mouthings?
Spouting quotes from Mao,Castro, and Che Guevara, which are as germane to our highly
technological, computerized, cybernetic, nuclear-powered, mass media society as a stagecoach on a jet runway at Kennedy airport?

fuck off Holla Forums


we need some memes that critique them from a leftist perspective, cause this is just cancerous strawmanning

I don't get it, is this pic supposed to make her look bad?

This is actually good

pic was pretty much unrelated.
I think she's qt/10.

Cancerous strawmanning is all you pacifist shits have.

Also I'm sick of this underage "all nazis are just innocent trump voters" meme.
Fucking hell.
Is everyone an american to you?
Is everyone too young to remember a time before obama and trump?
Is your perception so twisted, so warped, that only the people on 4chan exist to you?

This is what happens when kids roleplaying online think they know anything about what's going on outside.

All Trump voters are upper middle class to rich gated community fucks in red states, most poor people who are in the working class even get to go out and vote because they have to work on voting day

The idea of the "poor innocent, unappreciated" trump voter is such bullshit, these are people who would fucking pay for Wall Street Journal subscription and be neighbor friends with three Dentists

"Bow down before the one you serve"

"God Money's not one to choose"

Man, this is pretty sharp and logical. I always heard of Alinsky as the sinister mentor of Hillary and this book as the spooky handbook of Clinton and Obama who's trying to destroy America and make it a socialist, christian-hating dystopia, so I never took it seriously. But all of this seems actually sensible and actually for radicals, not aggressive socdems or liberals.

It's so trite how violence-fetistists call everyone who disagrees with their retardation "pacifists". It's on the same level as tankies calling everyone who disagrees with their authoritarianism "liberals".

Stop twisting peoples words, people are saying that not all Trump voters are Nazis, not that actual Nazis are somehow innocent.

Yes, thats totally why the bus driver I see every day voted for Trump and why the maintenance place I train at was split nearly half-way during the election. You can't just somehow pretend that Trump won coal and steel country completely off the back off the Upper-middle class Also, using the middle class meme ever who don't even make up the majority of individuals.

No, they're defending everyone who ever gets labelled a nazi as being a mere trump voter.

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Well first off they're making you look like a bunch of barbaric idiots to moderates, and ensured that you won't win elections for decades.

Piece of advice, violence, murder, property damage, etc, none of this wins votes.

I hat myself today
To see if I still feel

The violence won't stop as long as the violence doesn't stop, the nazi bones will break as long as nazis break bones.

Freedom fighters after my own heart. Webm related

youtube.com/watch?v=UA1YfkpGXdo

No, the worst I've seen is people saying that most of the people having been labeled nazis have been your run of the mill reactionary liberals and autistic larpers. Not saying those people shouldn't be ideologically opposed (we already do), but to say their nazis when the total amount of far-right groups in America is very small is ridiculous and does nothing for the movement. Not every prole who grumbles at the bar about immigrants after work is a nazi and alt-right is about as much of a threat as a bunch of basement dwellers can be. Literally no one I knew had any idea who Richard Spencer was until he made the news because of antifa.

I don't like this sort of idea that you must be officially affiliated with a state recognized right wing organization to be technically allowed to be considered a fascist.
And come on now, the alt-right may not be a threat but right wing violence is still a real thing that happens and it doesn't matter if you oppose it, because the victims will.

Are you serious? No.

Of course you should oppose right wing violence if it occurs, I don't think any person on the left down to your general union member has a problem with that. People are just pointing out that there is a difference between reacting to right-wing violence as well as standing up in defense of the victims and going out of your way to find right wingers and start violence. For example, I applaud antifascist groups in Greece in their defense of people from violent groups like the Golden Dawn because they are actively defending proles and gaining support because of it. What are antifa in America even really doing? I've known unions who have brought proles closer to the left then them.

You must be new here

Beverly Hills Antifa is a Holla Forums account.

Just like they did with Boston Antifa and others:

itsgoingdown.org/alt-right-trolls-posing-boston-antifa-facebook-youtube/

The Alt-Right always pretends to be Antifa. Pic related.

Great post

Alinsky is basically a liberal. Thus why Hillary liked him in her youth.

Left- LARPing

Right- ironic LARPing

As long as anarchists cling to a punk, rebellious aesthetic their ranks will be lined with the sort of lifestylist poseurs who are morally repellent to any remotely responsible people.

FTFY.

We don't want you either.

I'm not mature or conscientous enough to survive adult responsibility or even basic social pressures, but I'm not hip or manipulative enough to fit in with the sort of people who spend their time sleeping outside downtown for fun.

The hentai loving loser posting memes and saving the white race on twitter is a more likeable person than you are, because they hate themselves at least as much as they hate normal people.

Burger antifa is garbage

The rest is pretty ok with me

I literally was that anime loving weeb minus the white race stuff for the past eight years. Now I'm an anime hating weeb who takes drugs. Eat me.

Makes sense, Holla Forums is CONSTANTLY false flagging. At least it is obvious when they do it and even random anons on halfchan see through it.

wow

Not the greatest but they have the right shitting themselves to the point of turning up at fake events and shooting themselves with their own guns so I give them that at least.

anti-cap > anti-fa

Just idiots. They have caused a backlash against the left from the public. The right-wing journos have spurred on this backlash, mainly because its so easy with the left lacking a coherent message and lacking an alternative to the peoples concerns over jobs, their finances and the collusion of high-ranking politicians and international capital.

I think it's a mistake to conflate bourgeois alarmism about violent leftists with "the public". The effect that organizing has on social relations, even those done by antifa groups are more interesting, if they do that. There is no way you can control right-wing media narratives. It's just that black clade people confronting nazi's are more mediagenic than anything else. And that's a problem but its also beyond your control for the most part.

njhomelandsecurity.gov/analysis/anarchist-extremists-antifa?rq=antifa

interesting read

This makes me cringe on a whole new level. Left in Poland is dead, all I can hope for is some kind of giant fuck up from our gov that will produce more fellow anarchists.

Comarades. Comareds always.
They're more ballsy than we are OP, they have their own reasons but they're still doing what the want, thats anarchism. They're admirable.

Agreed man. Simple as that.

I think that your post is enough to sum up the whole thread. Thanks.
/thread

Does she brap fascist to death?

Yes because going for a glorified group walk while that's made up of 95% liberal idpolers, holding shitty banners, and blocking traffic has truely brought us closer to freedom from the capitalist mode of production, god speed to you, and thank you for being brave enough of a hero than most of us will ever be.

t. your average Stalinist