What Silicon Valley Has Planned for Public Education

Thank you for posting this, it was really interesting!

Imagine a generation grown up with virtual teachers, fully indoctrinated to blindly follow instructions given by software.

What a topsy-turvy world.

TOLD YA SO

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Why are chartered schools bad? Never heard of them.

how is literally any of this a bad thing

Kill me my dude.

If you watch the video she actually says that a lot of these sound really cool, until you notice their dark side, which you conveniently ignored.

Porky wants to be paid to provide education to children by the government. So now children will be educated at the tax payer's expense ban an unaccountable private company instead of the government.

I highly doubt the usefulness of all these forms of gamifying education.

It encourages anti-social autism which is inherently right wing.

Did you fucking read the document? You're first clue is that the whole thing is filled with made up corporate buzzwords that sound fancy and hightech like "vibrant learning grid"

Meaning that teaching, one of the few "stable" jobs for those with degrees and unable to be employed in their industry would go away.

Self explanatory, if you don't see what's wrong with this then you're hopeless.

Great, breed a whole generation that has even less concern for their fellow man. This is what makes alt-right and redditor shit, people who crave human interaction (not just conversation, but sex and point of view exchange) but have no idea how to actually go about interacting with other humans. They become bitter, xenophobic, sexually frustrated and unable to actually do anything but create depression memes on the internet instead of trying to change the world for the better.

This means that you will never be given something to really challenge you. I'm not sure about others, but seeing what I could eventually have is huge motivation. Why learn something when you never know the end goal? I picked up guitar because I wanted to play and make music like the greats; it was a calling. This sounds like everything will be a walled garden until you learn exactly what they want you to learn, without the ability to explore and test the waters of your own abilities.

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It's all about work, not education. They just want to chuck everything at you, analyze how best you can fit porky's needs, and then focus your entire life on that.

Self explanatory.

Self explanatory.

It just gets worse as it fucking goes on.

Shit like this is so bad, I kinda see where anprims come from.

There are tons of lonely and isolated people on the left though. Look at Holla Forums

Why should i give a shit about teachers? The whole formal education system sucks, they can go fuck themselves.

So, basically nothing different?

It's always been about work and indoctrination. Sounds like now they're just making it more efficient.

Read Kaczynski and see where tech leads to.

TBH public schools are a tool of porky and charter schools are just tools of super porky, and neither will teach our kids what they want or need to know. We need to be developing parallel education systems to bypass the whole fucked system.

Charter schools are dangerous because they create a parallel system that is completely under porky's control. Who knows what kind of reactionary garbage they will teach kids when the global revolution begins?

I fucking hate this emphasis on work, work, work. As a STEM graduate, all anyone ever wanted to know is if a course was useful for potential employers. Any education policy change is either prepositioned on "it will enable kids to be better ready for the workplace" or that's immediately what is asked.

What happened to learning things just for the sake of learning and self development? It's not like learning something "useless" doesn't have benefits to your ability to learn and figure out "useful" things.

The dictatorship of the commodity happened.

No it's a lot different because charter schools close down the minute they start to do bad because they're distinctively incentivized to maximize their profits at the expense of poor children who might benefit the most by an education. They're not really there to offer an education replacement, they're being enacted to crush unions, give tech companies an opportunity to sell shit for government grants and eliminate the public school system in favor of a private one where only the rich benefit.

My contention here is not that the current public school system is perfect or that every teacher deserves our sympathy, but that even a flawed school system for kids is better than the no school system they will eventually end up with when charter schools do irreparable damage to this country.

It's the principle of the matter, they want teachers unions to be killed because public sector unions are the only unions left in America that still have any power. Maybe you don't give a shit about teachers but the job is a public service and they do it almost for a pittance comparable to other jobs with a similar educational requirement and they get minor benefits and now porky wants to take even that away. It's easy to be edgy about this, but the reality is until we can enact a better solution public schools are the best of the two options we have now.

Here are some of their strategies:

Enforce Ongoing, Austerity Budgets

Ramp Up NoExcuses Discipline & Increased Surveillance

Allow School Facilities to Deteriorate Beyond Repair

Manufacture Teacher Shortages & Push Out Veteran Educators

Cultivate Climate of Fear and Competition

Limit Access to Text Books / School Libraries

Prioritize Data Over Human Relationships

Limit Public Participation in Ed Policy Decisions

Push the Narrative that Schools Cannot be Fixed

Porky scum

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degrees are now products
it also explains grade inflation

At the moment at least children get a kind of "liberal education," with mathematics, science, literature, history, arts, etc. necessary for everyone. Be prepared that more and more people will argue that these are useless, and when students start learning using these "playlists" they will start specializing very early and narrowly.

Just look at what you've done STEMlords.

It's not just STEMlords, you can frequently see people complaining about children having to learn useless mathematics that they will never have to use in their life, instead of learning something more work-related, like how to write a CV or do your taxes.

How is the maths useful though?

Why does it need to be "useful?"

For doing your fucking taxes, for one. So you can calculate percentages and understand graphics, so as to know when you're being ripped off or schemed upon.

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Plus you need it to understand public policy and a lot of politics. A lot of bullshit happens because people don't even elementary probability. The entire casino industry is built on that fact.

I run into all kinds of situations where a knowledge of geometry, algebra, trigonometry, or calculus would have helped me, but I can't into because I've a dumb.

You are not dumb, user. If you have time you could teach mathematics to yourself. It does take some time, but everyone is capable of learning it.

This. Trigonometry is a fucking drag, but as someone that rather do his own home building than paying money for a scheming prick, it's mightly useful.

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Pure mathematics, the kind many think of as completely divorced from reality, in your sense could be said to be 'useful' in the sense that it is a tool through which one can develop abstract analytical thinking skills. Number theory, group theory, set theory, graph theory etc are all exemplary of this.

>>>/liberty/

Jesus christ, silicon valley needs to be nuked.

been 10 minutes through her speech and it's already absolutely horrible. burger elites are so rotten it's unbelievable.
unfortunately i think marx was wrong when he stated that capitalism will eventually eat itself. i can't blame him for that because in his time digital telecommunication devices, microphones etc did not exist. now if the proletariat doesn't defend itself soon and do away with big data surveillance it will end up in a slave society where robots and AIs enjoy a more worthwhile existence, more rights and more power than designated lower class humans (the proposed "education" system will be able to designate, create and control lower class humans). if the burger society (eu society might follow suit since our upper class isn't much better if not worse than the burger elite) goes the path outlined in that youtube clip it might cross a threshold in the not so far future from where communism is not possible anymore since the upper class holds so much power over every detail of their underling's living conditions that lower class humans might as well not be considered humans anymore but commodities (in ancient rome slaves where considered commodities).
moreover, i know there are discussions going on in burger academia about whether free will exists or not. this is very much related to big data and the fact alone that such a discussion exists over there is scary, 1) because there is no doubt that free will exists at all, otherwise biotic beings would neither defend themselves against potential threats to their existence nor make free decisions/choices and 2) there is no practical point in questioning free will at all unless you want to get rid of it. the latter would be utterly foolish unless you actually desire to become literal dead matter yourself or if you want to take over total control over other biotic beings.

The data gathering is the only bad part, and I admit that's bad, but other than that I could give two shits. It sounds like testing out, and testing out is fucking amazing.

School is fucking awful and a giant waste. I'm still bitter about wasting so much time of my precious youth there. It all blurs together into a chalkboard and standing in lines. What should have been the most precious and vibrant years of my life were reduced to nothing.

Depends on what u do, but in general it's a tool, a language. The more language u know, the more u can understand the world. Like I took math since I am a biochemist, but I used to work for my grandfather doing welding to help pay for rent. Turns out, all the trigonometry is incredibly useful when designing things. When I used to work at a butcher shop, geometry was helpful for determining the spacing of the cute you make for steaks on the fly. Even in everyday life having basic math skills helps with calculations such as bills and budgeting.

It's like being in America knowing English, but knowing some Spanish on the side is helpful. You never know until I have to use it.

did they intend for any of these to sound good?

Silicon Valley needs to be nuked.

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Casual reminder that an 'education' is more than rote learning. You can't have an education without being in a social setting.

This will socially retard a generation and anyone who doesn't realize how much the brain needs to be around peers during puberty doesn't understand what it means to be human.

This is a fucking terrible idea for the simple fact if you cannot educate someone socially when they're fucking 12-21 you fuck them over for life, employment becomes harder and poverty becomes easier

This is a bad fucking idea, but it's great for them.

Anyone who doesn't see this shit is a sucker

This is a great way to spot who sympathizes with Silicon Valley's anti-social bitterness and social isolation

Really? Then how come the most social students are so dumb?

Do you have proofs to back that up or are you just pulling that out of your ass because you are bitter that you had no friends in high school?

Ah yes.

The nerds, the jocks, the preps, the goths, and the freaks

Just like my high school movies told me

Almost everyone I knew who had friends kept up with grades. There is no Bobby from Twin Peaks demographic in every single high school dude

I never saw any of those people talking about anything deeper than how obama was an anti war president. Then they went to pursue careers and make lots of money in non-profit or NGOs.

If you can give me some personal examples of people past the age of 30 who openly espouse revolutionary theory in their daily life and aren't activists I'm all ears.

You just said they got bad grades now you're changing it to they don't agree with you politically.

Of course not everyone is a communist, come on man you're hung up about high school it's time to let it go

Uh. Ok I don't see where you're going with this besides they're class cucks like everyone else alive that's not necessarily being stupid

You still need to be social in adolescence to thrive as an adult in socialism or capitalism.

Better question might be do you know anyone who actually fights back past the age of 30? Everyone who does almost always tends to be the most socially alienated individuals.

You're the only one talking about grades.

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I'm sorry you weren't specific enough

So you have no sympathy for the proletariat for falling for capitalism, is what you're saying

Why should anyone? They were busy partying, I was out reading theory.

Because empathy is an emotional characteristic of people who are mentally stable and partying doesn't make you an evil hedonist monster who wants to take away your life

Let go of high school jesus christ

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Maybe not. It doesn't change the fact that they know very little about the world.

So did I but I'm not bitter other people have friends and make money. I'm happy not all people I know aren't suffering, why should I not? I hate capitalism too but you can't just fucking hate everyone in the proletariat because they're not as red as you, partying also doesn't make you suddenly stupid vapid and evil.

Apparently neither do you.

Pretty sure this is a board for discussing theory. You'd rather this site turn into facebook?

You're being extremely cringy and it's not my fault.

Just because people don't read theory does not mean they are dumb.

Just because some people read theory does not mean they are not dumb.

Actually, you're tying to turn this into an ad hom, when I'm still waiting for examples of really social people past 30 who espouse revolutionary ideas and aren't activists or academics.

Surely you can give me one example from your own experience.

You're proving my point and the other user who says you're just looking to loathe your peers and the proletariat for going for the only choice in life

Not everyone wants to be like you, and that doesn't make them stupid, in fact you're acting really emotionally retarded right now

Elaborate a little further on what you mean by this.

You either get a job and a career and go to college or find another way to go by and make money, and one of those involves grades.

Many of us here also have careers not everyone is a neet, you aren't selling out by working, and partying doesn't make you vapid and stupid, as a matter of fact labor is one of the things we're fighting for and so is freedom to be with our fellow human beings.

Communism won't fix you, for all I see you don't believe in it. You're looking for an excuse to be the pity party of the room and if people don't give it you'll lash out. You're looking to hate other people and you found theory, and I can understand that, but just so you know

It makes you stupid.

True, but this is what everyone does. Thing is our goal as the radical left is to change society not conform to it. Otherwise your practical impact is no different than some right winger.

But see that's the thing, people have been pursuing careers more and more over the past decades but every indicator related to labor has been getting weaker and weaker. So when you say "we" maybe we could just be honest and say that they're really just selfishly pursing a career and don't actually care about changing the world in any meaningful way.

Quite a bit of projection here. The only hate I'm seeing is coming from you.

They don't even spend effort trying to make them sound good anymore because they know that the plebs have become too weak to fight back.

Those were written by the lady who made the slides not Silicon Valley

Honestly, they are pretty useless. I have a wide variety of academic interests but I know most of them have extremely little irl value and I don't think kids should be forced to learn them just to take some tests and then forget it all. The way modern schools work is just a massive waste of time on useless subjects that they all forget.

They're completely correct. I don't like the fact that these kids are going to become good little workers, but that's the society we currently live in, so they should be prepared for it and actually learn shit that they need to function.

Because people shouldn't be forced to learn useless shit to make some teacher feel like they're important.

You're reaching. No one learns pure math to be a good logical thinker.

If you're going to coerce kids into learning shit, it should at least be a good use of their time.

Are you sure you are a leftist and not a reactionary?

I think it is nice to have a liberal education, but the current school system does not give that nor cannot, nor should an individual be coerced into having it to begin with. Regardless, biology, geography, chemistry, maths, etc. aren't useful to a person who's livelihood doesn't include it. Stuff like history, philosophy, English, psychology, are important to every person, but they'll never be taught to a useful or true extent under the current system, nor can you force a horse to drink.

There's lots in biology, geography, chemistry, maths, etc. that are useful for everyone.