Richard Spencer - Socialist, Hates the right

What did he mean by this Holla Forums?
youtube.com/watch?v=uGhXo_a5NAM

"""Socialist"""

No idea, he's on the payroll for a white nationalist group so it seems a pretty odd statement.

he's taken the nazbol pill

He's a Nazi/strasserist

comrade has finally joined the gang

Spencer is actually one of the more intelligent guys of the alt-right. That's why he is hated by the average, overly paranoid Holla Forumsyp.

I kinda think he's tolerable, his views are complete shit, but honestly, at least he's not classcucked unlike the rest of his movement which seems to be more than willing to support neoliberal policies.

What do you think the alt-right is, exactly?

It means he's a """socialist"""" like Hitler was a """""""""""socialist""""""""""""""".
He's part of a think tank. He knows socialism is on the rise with the youth because of bernie, and wants to put his foot in the door.

He owns a cotton plantation.

First Evalion, then Spencer…
maybe this is the beginning of the revolution.

This, and also, he is not even that racist. He could be the next Evalion, guys!

Isn't he a Utopian Socialist? I know some of those guys were pretty spooked.

Spencer is worth a lot of money and doesn't need any of this. He actually IS class cucked advocating for impoverished dispossessed ypipo as a member of the wealthy wasp elite.

Who is that black guy?? It seems familiar

What he says seems succdem-tier at best

he didn't say he hates the right. he said he hates people on the right who are trying to shut down free speech when it comes to liberals, calling it "political violence".

trap Spencer NOW

Breaking news: Sucdems continue to succ

He's written before that people should use the Hitler tactic of adopting leftist economic aims in rhetoric to appeal to sell people his racist agenda.

I'd pay for seeing a debate between Spencer and a genuine, non-IdPol communist. That'd be really interesting.

Literally nothing wrong with roseposting.
I was being ironic. Of course he is socialist, as in Not Socialist.

Sauce?

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He's actually brought up the marxist contradictions of capitalism multiple times.

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here in america will use this as another example of the crazy intolerant left

You know, there are other ways of abolishing capitalism than fetishizing over a plain materialist change of the mode of production.

Fascism is anti-capitalist, it transcends capitalism. You are what you think you are, how you are integrated, what you identify with. You work for something bigger than yourself. Capitalism is applied when it serves the nation, socialism is applied when it serves the nation.

More ammunition for PJW types and the other """cultural libertarians""" who cry about crony capitalism.

This isn't facebook, you're not fooling anyone with your rhetoric.

Can we please add this shit to the sticky?
This like the third time a fascist has said this today, and each time it become more agonizing to walk them through why that's not the case.

OK so the mixed economy meme.

WTF I love nazis now

Yeah I'm noticing a lot of recurring behaviour here recently.

Yeah, we're probably being raided again.
All this stuff reeks of reddit. Holla Forums is usually subtler than this.

Mussolini was funded by almost every major capitalist in Italy.
dumb swastikaposter

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I think Marx was wrong in proposing that an abstract relation to the means of production are what defines alienation from someone's labor. That's not how alienation truly works. If you have any arguments against that, feel free to speak your mind.


Not really, it isn't about semantics wether or not you label something socialist or capitalist. This is vulgar. We want a society in which economist reductionism isn't the main drive of human development, but evolution of the spirit, what Hegel named "aufheben".


Privatization in Nazi Germany was of different character than privatization in neoliberal countries.

Probably COINTELPRO to delegitimize socialism and universal healthcare by associating them with white supremacism.

I think that's what they call a "reverse Mussolini".

Fascists don't have a problem with capitalism, they just don't like it when Jews and non-Whites get involved and out-muscle them

Alienation wasn't even the crux of Marx's argument. You could throw out most of what he said about alienation, and he'd still be right about the underlying relationships.

at most, trivially

You realize this an SJW argument, right?
I'm not even trying to make a joke.
This is literally something they say.

I'm well aware, but that was not what I was asking. You have any arguments why alienation is caused by an abstract relation to the means of production, yes or no? Because people have lots of relations to abstract concepts, which they are not alienated from, but where they are simply indifferent towards them.

It wasn't trival at all, considering that it made a massive difference for the people. Nobody gives a fuck about abstract property rights.

That's not an argument though. SJWs work in the opposite direction of us. The fact we both reject dialectical materialism isn't an argument, because guess what, 98% of the population does so. Marx rests on outdated anthropological theories.

One's relation to the MoP directly affect the level of personal freedom they have, when you have little option but to spend your life serving someone else due to position in a hierarchy you're not really free. Even the porkies get so immersed in the system that they prioritize maintaining it over things like having a healthy relationship with their family, etc.
Strict hierarchy is unnatural to humans which makes it all the more baffling that advocates of right-wing politics try to claim that it's "human nature", Read Mutual Aid, nigga.
Ahahaha what? Again, those "abstract property rights" directly affect one's freedom and way of life. Fascism, just like capitalism and all other right-wing political systems, is all about coercing the vast majority of society into sacrificing themselves entirely for the sake of a few people at the top. One who has lost their freedom is essentially a slave.
No they don't, both fascists and SJWs seek to keep humanity trapped in a hierarchal system, its simply the details of who goes where in that hierarchy that differ. Fascism is simply what happens when Porky goes into panic mode and has to maintain capitalism through brute force and even more overt brainwashing and propaganda.

Maybe it really was a scat fetishist who punched him in the face maybe it was Based Reginald

lolbergs are fucking retards, who cares what they think.

Except anthropologists take his theories seriously

Ignoring the fact that he's referring to social democracy, this is fucking retarded. You can tell he's never been anywhere in western Europe. Parts of the USA are legit third world tier.

This. You have to give credit where credit is due.

He's a proto-Strasserist for sure. Read his tweets. If people asked him bout more than just bout how much he hates black people and da Joos he'd prolly sound a lot different than your average libertarian fascist with a boner for class cuckery and capitalism

Nah, he's got like 0 say in socialist circles cuz of hos views on race. Nobody thinks of communism when they hear the name Richard Spencer.

Is it even possible to be a race realist and a communist at the same time? I can see potential in recruiting lumpenproles but maybe I'm just racist

He is still a retard.
Because socialism in his point of view is
If he starts ready some actual socialist theory and changes his point of view maybe but until then he is still retarded.

If you ask me it ain't cuz "race realism" is a pseudoscientific spook that breeds classism based on skin colour, but yeah, there are "white nationalist communists". They're called Asserists or Asserists.

white nationalists are not particularly interested in economics
many believe that socialism can work well but only in countries like the nordics that are almost 100% white
many also oppose the disgusting materialism of late stage capitalism
potential allies imo

Hes part of the nazbol gang.