*clocks in two minutes late* "You have a responsibility to come in on time...

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Lol clearly a black person. I never realized leftypol was just a bunch of lazy nigs…

Holy shit you would think something like this would at the very least make you shift perspective towards your boss.

Can't represent the interests of the working class if you don't work, NEETcuck.

I like your style, user.

This. I had a manager like that, and incidentally the guy's daughter died. At the funeral, I asked if I could do anything to help him, and he told me "just keep the boat afloat while I'm gone".
The guy was back to work in less than a week.

I know the guy probably fucked me over a lot of times, but I can't help to feel sorry for him.

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lol watch me

I represent the unemployed and unemployable. They're more class conscious.

We socialists recognize people don't need personal incentive to work. How is it you refusing to work because you don't see personal incentive in doing so helping us?

I end up spending an hour and a half on the toilet at work throughout the day. I just drop whatever I'm doing, "go to take a shit," and then spend the next 25 minutes browsing Holla Forums.

Just about all my coworkers are rulecucked pieces of shit that come in every day hating their lives and dreaming of retirement that will never come, as the company picks them off one by one and replaces them with young part timers. I'll whip out my phone to pass the time and one of these fucks will inform on me to my boss.

Wouldn't piss on any one of em if they were on fire tbh.

Strictly speaking in most places talking with your coworkers is against the rules so if they see you not working hard enough they can tell you to fuck off and get back to it.

Some bosses use it to keep people from talking to chicks they're trying to mack on but I don't know if he was specifically trying to imply that.

How is fetishizing slavery and pressuring innocent people into slavery good for socialists?

how is you making a lot of assumption helping this discussion (which, by the way, we have at least 3 times a week)?

everytime

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Do you have a Reddit account?

the modern idea of work was created by capitalism, if you think work should be as degrading as it is now under a new system, you're wrong.
automation applied to reduce work hours as much as possible and actually make work fulfilling, maybe even optional; not to churn extra trash that will fuck up the planet to put a couple bucks on a boss' name.
they already are automatizing the service industry, just imagine all that tech used for the good of the worker

That's a dodge. If you insist that everyone will work for societal good over personal interest, but refuse to work for societal good out of personal interest, all Porky needs to do is point out you're a hypocrite who doesn't live by his own standards.

I don't bust my ass forty hours a week in a union to have some unionized NEETcuck tell me how he's looking out for me. Grow up, get a job, and use your labor power to show you have skin in this game.

I don't insist everyone will work for the societal good, that's fucking retarded, people will work for their own good which involves cooperation on many different scales, and yes I'm talking about during communism.

No you bust your ass forty hours a week to perpetuate the capitalist system and serve the ruling class much more than I ever have in my life. Each week. This gives you the ultimate authority on theory somehow, and that's why everyone has to have a protestant work ethic, for some reason.

no, why

I mean if they're actively making am effort to ensure you're taking your legally mandated breaks that puts them in the top quarter of managers on its own no matter how shit they are in other ways

Capitalism also involves cooperation on many different scales, dummy. The difference between working under Socialism VS working under Capitalism is that you do it mostly for the greater good whereas in Capitalism they do it mostly for personal interest. If you, the socialist, chose not to work because 'muh capitalism!' you're proving Porky correct.

Motherfucker, I live my values. Not only do I work a full time job, but I also do everything I can to make sure my fellow workers (not NEETs) reap the maximum benefits from their labor. All you do is shitpost on an image board while living off of other people's labor, NEETcuck.

So?
No? In capitalism you're doing more for the "greater good", you're working for something external to yourself mostly, you're working for the boss. Socialism has no bosses. In socialism there is no imposed identity greater than the self you are obligated to slave away for. The local community and international community are just equal partners working for their own interests in the best way, collectively.
You slave away a majority of your life for the bourgeoisie and are super bitter about it. Nice values.
Typical wageslave rationalization. "You can only work or do literally nothing. Those are the options."

That's exactly the reason it's silly.

No, the difference between working under socialism vs working under capitalism is that the workers actually have a say in the, you know, working.

you must be an ironworker with a bad back from shitty conditions to qualify as a REAL TROO SOSHALISHT

I'd post a smug Anime girl, if I hadn't lost all my downloads

Kill em all tbh
People who take their menial jobs seriously are fucking gay

Nice LARP. Read some Dauve:
t. Dauve & Martin, "Eclipse & Reemergence Of The Communist Movement"
It really says something about the state of things that I keep having to post this same paragraph over and over again in what ends up being the perfect context every time.

So you don't get to use Socialism as an excuse to be a non-contributor. Non-contributors get gulaged.

99.99% of people work because they have to earn money. We have to work to take a stand for our fellow workers.

Anarchism doesn't work. You're going to have to be a slave to something in this world. This isn't an option.

Yes, but someone has to oversee the collective. A zero vertical collective is impossible.

Nice job leaving out the union activism I do. Nice intellectual honesty.

That's reality. If you have no action to put behind your activism, it is useless slactivism. This is what makes you a NEETcuck and why Porky will continue to control the working class.

atleast neets read the goddamn literature

You don't understand socialism. At the point gulags exist, you can not have socialism. What you insist on is not the abolition of class, but just the restructuring of it.
Because the bourgeoisie makes slaves of you all. So much so that the only way you imagine liberation is with a benevolent figure making you work.
But it has worked, leninist attempts never have. They have created large, intrusive, capitalist states.
No, they don't. No, it's not.
Yeah, focus on that, ignore as hard as you can that you advocate for slavery to the bourgeois today, and slavery to the party tomorrow.

If you don't participate in wage slavery, then you are a useless slactivist? How fucked. How cucked. How sad.

Socialism is about reducing the power of class in society. You can't abolish class entirely, otherwise you have no rules, and if you do have rules you have rulers.
If you don't work, you don't get to eat. Again, I'm not for anarchism because it is nontenable.
Soviet Union held strong against the rest of the world until the late eighties. Meanwhile, there has never been an anarchist state.
If you want socialism to work, you need to ensure no one establishes private business. So, by its nature, you need to establish a means of enforcement and a representative body to enforce the law. There will always be overhead.
Yes, doing what you can for workers here and now is worse than doing absolutely nothing for workers ie. bragging about how woke you are on Holla Forums. At least you can die saying you never helped anyone else in your entire life!
That is exactly right. I never chose capitalism but I won't let pride get in my way of changing it. In fact, if you don't work, you're not a member of the working class. You're just the same as the bourgeois; except instead of being a parasite from a place of unmerited power and wealth, a pathetic bottom feeder. Work, NEET, work.

I work two jobs and I agree with the neet.
Just because we suck porky dick doesn't make us anymore special or deserving than a neet on calling this system the turd that it is.

Gotta be a troll.

Why even live?

You'll have to answer that question for yourself. All we workers can do is ensure the best possible conditions for living.

Socdems are a fucking death cult.

I was asking why live, if in your mind, you are literally going to switch society around where you are an 'ethical' slave owner.

That's all history is. There is no utopia state for humanity.

Have you ever actually opened up a history book or are you acting retarded to prove some kind of point?

Tell me, comrade, how many utopias has history given us?

The fact you honestly believe a society without slavery is utopia pisses me off more then I'd like to admit.

The fact that you seem to think that every society has had slavery leads me to believe that no, in fact, you have not, and you are so blind to this that you can't even see it.

If you could have a society in which there are no hierarchies among man and everyone lived in relative harmony that would be a text book example of utopia.

Hierarchies=/=slavery in my mind. Having to work to survive? Literal definition of slavery. I have no problem with work, and if people had to be forced to work for survival, I'd understand and wouldn't fight it. The thing is, not very society has to be that way. We are very close, if not already at the point where the few can easily support the many. I.E., I could work, and could give my produced surplus to others. Maybe someone would have to force the producer in that situation, but that would only be because of Capitalist conditioning. If feel like you've fallen for the human nature meme, just in a different way.

Jesus christ wtf are liberals doing here?

do you pronounce "gigi" like "giggy"

God damn that is pretty good.

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I got a chubby watching this

It stuns me how idiotic and disgustingly wasteful my corporate overlords are

First time seeing this guy, I like him instantly.

Your level of slave mentality is honestly pretty sad. And no, you don't need rulers to have rules.
And here I was thinking we were trying to create a society without the constant threat of work or die.
Using the Soviet Union as an example of your ideology speaks very poorly of you.
Absolute nonsense. The point is to make the old system obsolete, not illegal. If you have to forcefully prevent businesses from being created and being successful, then it sounds like you failed in creating a better society. It also shows a deep misunderstanding of the problems of Capitalism if you think someone voluntarily selling their labor is evil but being forced to give it to the state is good.
Your class is not a result of what you do, but your relation to the MoP. NEETs provide necessary service to Capitalism, contrary to popular belief, they contribute to the reserve army of labor, thereby reducing the power of labor, same as the unemployed and the people on welfare. They are paid for this service; it's unnecessary, inefficient, and destructive to their class, but so is most work.

You honestly sound like you've internalized Capitalist ideology and fallen hard for the human nature meme. Read a book and liberate your enslaved mind.

Bitch, 90% of my day is spent on hold. When that's happening what you're paying me to do is sit around doing nothing so it's not like having a little nap while I wait for the other guy to get back on the line is doing any harm besides making the other wagecucks in the room jealous.

Ya no that's totes pipe dreems brah whats next you gonna wish humans could like fly or shit nah bro just work til you die like a good citizen brah

Abolishing work is a technology issue, the goal of socialism is simply to ensure that the burdens and rewards of necessary work are fairly distributed.

The concept of working in general is, but Capitalism is unique in forcing you to work for someone else's benefit because they hold the MoP hostage and demand ransom. Of course you'll need to work in Socialism, but not for someone else's benefit.

Hegel said that, Marx was referencing him.