Fucking Liberals, destroying Leftism

Vice is run by the Murdochs.

preemptively create a communist group at your campus

The delicious irony is that the SJW will infiltrate that group and turn the commies out and claim they are the real communists.

No colleges are really "leftist", but plenty of them have various nationalisms with a brown face. Small undergrad-focused liberal arts colleges are the most SJW-ish, along with UC Berkeley, Brown, and Yale I guess among bigger-name colleges. The reason I dispute them being meaningfully "left" in a sense that we would use on Holla Forums is: Can you really call yourself a leftist if you get involved in various SocJus struggles on campus and then go work for Goldman Sachs or Google? No.

To be a bit racist, if you want to gauge how SJW a college will be, look at its % black student body. Unfortunately, race struggle has been cultivated in a big way among blacks, and they basically insert themselves at the front lines of every racial issue. Look, for instance, at the video of that Yale professor who got hounded about cultural appropriation in the form of Halloween costumes resembling Native Americans - most of the students surrounding him were black. The school I did undergrad at had was STEM-focused and had hardly any blacks at all - most of whom were from Africa proper or the Caribbean, and they didn't seem to "get" the race struggle shit.

Absolutely horrifying at the fact that these people have been calling themselves socialist.

What
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Disaster

Just make sure you're not white.

Based.

This is why we need to kill all the niggers

I wouldn't mind tbh but there is a lot of white people in that video who need to be purged too.

America truly is a burning hellscape.

Its people like him that should be gaining more traction in opposition to idpol, not pseuds like Peterson

Holy shit, how many layers of ideology do you have to be on to get to this point.

These people are only "destroying Leftism" because we allow them to. After all, where is the vocal, left-wing opposition to this idiocy? I follow leftists of all shades online and most of them are just pretending it didn't happen, it's enfuriating.

It seems that attacking identity politics is only cool when it's someone explicitly corny like Hillary or Lena Dunham doing it. When it's students and other "grassroots" movements even the most anti-liberal, anti-idpol irony dudes just avoid the subject.

SJWs don't even know who Marx is. I've never heard a SJW mention Marx anywhere or criticize capitalism or argue for socialism. Thus SJWs are not leftists.

I think the future of who wins the apolitical majority will depend on which side is able to offer themselves up directly as the opposition to idpol. As long as we follow the line and confront shit like this, we can be there to act as the alternative to the alt-right and SJWs who we can see more people are getting fed up on. For example, the girl in the video was talking about how she feels her nuanced opinions can't be expressed and how she disagrees with how the students are doing things. If we can be there to offer ourselves as the alternative, as a "third way", we can shift the discourse by simply acting as the cool head above the storm.

god my state is fucking retarded sometimes

Does Leftypol now support Holla Forums in sending these liberals to gulags and gas chambers?
Bipartisanship!

I've heard SJWs say that not only was Marx a racist but that to be a socialist/anarchist/communist is to be a white supremacist.

if you take a sociology course in college then they tend to namedrop Marx but also dumb him down to give their own ideas credibility.

Liberals together with big business and big banks are our common enemy.

Holla Forums is a brocialist board m8, SJWs can keep moving

Can you guys cut this shit? If you seriously believe there are no retarded SJWs calling themselves Marxists, Socialists, Communists, Anarchists and making use of those ideas then Holla Forums must be your only frame of reference for left-wing politics, because anyone who is active in leftist circles knows this isn't the case.

Speaking from my own experience, I deal with dumbasses like this all the time. In the whole decade I've identified myself as a Socialist I've never been part of a socialist group, movement or milieu where this mindset wasn't present, except for this board. In most of those places even the mildest criticism of SJW shit is a painful and exhausting process that is rarely worthy putting yourself through, and the smallest deviation from their narrative is enough to raise tons of eyebrows. It's a serious fucking problem that we have to be realistic about, instead of just deluding ourselves into thinking there's a clear, self-evident cleavage between us and them. They've taken over the discourse in virtually every sphere of progressive politics.

Good luck with this bud, because every time it's brought up the general response is "nuh uh, never happens"

you guys know this protest started because two black trans students were severely beat by campus police? Of course Bret Weinstein has never mentioned this, how would anyone know this was the case? how willing he has been to talk to the press, but only to talk about his own experience and his own opinion, and what the protests have meant to to him. The liberal framing of these protests have been so complete, that even Holla Forums turns its back on them. Students respond to legitimate grievances, but because they have neither the experience nor the organization to fight back, they end up an impotent embarrassment.

you do understand that there is more than one sjw in the world right? I'll admit these aren't the only ones i've dealt with but they certainly exist and I meet them through the organizing i do irl.

Forcing white people off of campus is not a form of protest. It's chauvinist idpol bullying that doesn't do anything constructive.

no one was forced off campus.

It's like trying to leave the Mormons or Jehovahs Witnesses. Chances are that if you're involved in leftist politics, even just online, you're surrounded by a people who all think and speak the same way. Even if you don't agree and would speak out against it from a universalist or identity-agnostic perspective, you're probably going to lose friends and associates (or if you're, say, guys who are mostly in social circles with woke new york liberals and you run a lucrative podcast, your livelihood too), it can cause problems in your party if you're in one and you'll generally be ostracised. I know we all like to make fun of Holla Forumsyps and r/t_d fags telling stories about losing friends and family for coming out as racist or whatever, but the same can and does happen to leftists who publicly question micronationalist narratives or identity-focused theory.

Aside from a handful of big names like Chibber or Reed, who are established and have the clout to weather any shit they get thrown at them, the non-identity left is tiny and in a very precarious position.

insidehighered.com/news/2017/05/30/escalating-debate-race-evergreen-state-students-demand-firing-professor
college.usatoday.com/2017/05/30/protests-erupt-over-racism-at-evergreen-state-college/
I can't seen to find anything about two trans students being beaten, only information about alleged harassment and questioning by campus police. The leave of absence is a tradition thing where the minority members usually leave in an act to bring awarness. Instead what happend this time was that students demanded that white students leave instead, to which Bret objected to as it was now less of a volutary act to bring awarness and now more toward telling another group to go away and said in his letter:
Which if that isn't the most proper answer, I don't know what is

Because most of the "DUDE IDPOL IS FOR LIBERAL SJWS AND NEETSOCS LMAO" ironbyros pretty much agree with SJWs on everything, they just think they need to mention class a bit more when they're bitching that straight white males still exist

thenewstribune.com/news/politics-government/article153826039.html
Also an article with the letter in it

Is this our Peterson?

I swear even stormfags are more tolerable than liberals

This rings true to me. Of course it doesn't surprise me Holla Forums is producing an endless flow of butthurt because of perceived reverse racism.

Everyone considers Jews to be white faggot, except for nazi retards. White Israelis are even racist towards the black ones (alternet.org/grayzone-project/israel-white-supremacy-anti-black-racism-african-refugees-ethiopian-jews). Not saying that this professor did anything wrong tho.

Well a brown guy drove a truck into a shopping mall therefore they all have to go back to the Middle East.

SJWs are literally indistinguishable from Holla Forums.

Girl who leads the club was laughing about how the feminist club on was putting up flyers for meetings with pictures of tampons on them, that were later taken down by the same club and replaced with new flyers because the posters weren't inclusive enough

As long as these fuckers exist, the radical left will never have the same surge the alt-right had. Nobody likes these people, they are caricatures, nobody wants to be arround them - but the radical leftist organizations face a massive predicament when it comes to them. On one hand they have a presence in terms of numbers and their relevance in youth culture (let's not forget most communist parties consist of ML grandpas), and on the other hand it's hard to disassociate yourself with these people as a leftist, especially when your organization has a history of fighting against illegitimate oppression.

SJW are also drawn to communist organizations, where they can LARP as radicals, but you can not effectively turn them away, or actively speak out against their bullshit (which in theory, you should totally do) because every leftist outside Holla Forums will think you are "NazBol" or querfront. I'm specifically referring to anarkiddies who love to throw the term "Red Fascist" arround everytime a communist party takes a decided anti-IdPol stance.

Liberal Maoism.

gee, and since when does white supremacy includes Jews?

It has nothing to do with "White" supremacy (i.e. "White" as an identity).
t. israeli

Tons of SJWs call themselves marxist, a fair chunk of their ideology is just bastardized marxism, class is simply swapped with all the shitty identities they make up.

Benevolent racism is still racism, you are not my comrade fams.

My gawd they were asked to leave to demonstrate racism dumbass.

As in when you actually experience it yourself even in a fake way it's hurts

I thought this is exactly what you want Holla Forums, students embracing ideas of Cultural Marxism.

Just look at Cultural Revolution and how they are bullying teachers for saying that is not Politically Correct.

Woah that guy has a big hat. He must be the biggest fascist ever!

Except the cultural revolution was about culture, not race.

There is a difference between bullying someone because he holds reactionary views and bullying someone because he's white

Radicalised blacks will start killing commie whiteys soon.
Black Power!

Leftypol was featured in a report about kekistan
We are getting closer to getting a full tv report on the dangers of commie memes :D
liberals btfo

youtube.com/watch?v=XiR8VDjXMnQ

What you have said does not conflate with anything I said, do you have any idea what benevolent actually means you stupid fuck?

What was normally suppose to happen was people of a certain race were attend to the demonstration, not scream at people who were in classes/the building and say they were there to kill black people. The fact that these people acted in the way that they died tells me that these are the types of people who see the world in a very racialist lens and participate in racialist politics due to my own experience with them.

Overall, its shitty politics that fail to do anything good effectively, and unironically leads to racialist types of thinking/attitudes which in turn leads to more divide and hatred.

did*****
fuck

We need to seriously rethink all our theories about autism. This video is proof that we're reaching levels of autism that current models are completely unable to explain.

oh, so this isn't real, gg

Liberalism is getting out of control. We need to make a website to tell people about the difference between liberalism and leftism.

Where was Holla Forums mentioned in that fake news?

they showed one of our memes by mistake

Fuck it, I'ma rant some more because this shit is infuriating.

Before that, I meant to say it does conflate, and not that didn't.

Anyways, what is with all divide when it comes to these issues? Or the idea of being racist to other people is a good way to solve anything?

Segregating based on race, yelling racial slurs in peoples faces, whipping and forcing them to pick cotton etc even if well intention to show that these things "hurt", from what I have seen did not lead to good results and seems to have the reverse effects.

Didn't MLK want everyone to stand together regardless of race and fight against oppression?

Why stop people who are different to you from standing for your struggles because its "appropriation", didn't Malcolm X regret the fact he did not let white people help fight the struggles black people faced?

A quote:

Why do we shun others who share the same struggles just because they were white? Didn't the Black Panthers feed the poor, regardless of what their race was?

All this division makes our numbers lower and thus makes us impotent when it comes to fighting for causes. People in this video and people like them are unintentionally doing the bidding of the elite, so lets not defend or follow suit in their self-defeating ideas/activism.

I didn't know media was so polarized in the US.
Is this video fake? Please tell me it is.

I think he means dialectic as in the sense of early philosophy i.e. people talking to elucidate a point. We should still meme him as tho he's a hegelian.

i feel like college campuses are the only place where this garbage can thrive. once you get out working, you meet people who are actually poor and struggling and when you bring up this kind of stuff everyone looks at you like you're muh privileged and should stfu.

these kids are young, and i'm sure if they bothered defining their terms and demands they might be agreeable in some of their positions. however, the gaslighting and callout culture depicted in the video is a great example of how incompetent they would be at leading anything in a real revolution.

they have absolutely no skills or street smarts and i would never call them comrades. the whole spectacle gives me pretty deep "Maoist" vibes as well. These people are so mired in post-colonialist bullshit theory that they care little about class at all. In fact, the whole video was race baiting without any evidence whatsoever, or weak evidence if any.

If He's bad for going on fox news, then why don't they do the same for any other leftist that's appeared on fox news? Jill stein, the SPUSA candidates, ralph nader? I Mean come on. Double standards abound. These people are mired in groupthink lol

this tbh. even then, when they do mention marx, its only to score brownie points with 'brocialists' because they know they need us angry white males to get anywhere. itsl ike nazis when they race bait. they need someone to listen to their bullshit to be relevant. if people just ignore them they wouldn't know what to do with themselves i feel like lol

i have partial hope that some SJWs can be 'reformed' or re-educated without oppressing them. however, some are legit anti-Marxist and definitely fall into the 'ABC' category of faux-leftists.

this. i mean, they dominate every space. i think its time more lefties just decided to accept the 'brocialist' term and form groups that say 'if you aren't about class, then fuck off' kind of thing, but still insisting an anti-racist stance and stuff. basically, groups that adhere to true Marxism but still make sjw's aware they are not welcome. most idpolers insist the jury is 'still out' on idpol, but this is how they get lefties to listen. its always 'unproven' that idpol is bad, even though they've never had a single fucking revolution happen as a result of their politics the entire time its been around, nor do they ever present concrete solutions for the end of capitalism. its just a dead end and i think this is the main point lefties need to argue when talking to them. insist on the primacy of class over all struggles. make it known and don't apologize for that stance!

i've only heard rumors about this. can you pont to this actually happening and not just being some made up story? i mean, video, an article, anything? This is kind of important for me. i've only heard the students mention this casually, and then it is essentially dropped in favor of the kind of politicking we saw in the video. even blm at least stays on topic with their protests ('justice for jamar' 'pray for trayvon' etc) but these people are just using the trans people's beatings as some kind of stepping stone to complain about anything and everything it seems with the way the video plays out…

preaching to the choir bro. i've really dropped the idea of joining a party or org because of this whole race struggle bullshit. i wnat to abolish the concept of race and i think that requires us seeing each other as equals and not reifying race, which these people do. we can acknolwedge problems but we should be trying to overcome them, not "identify" them as some permanent part of ourselves or something. i feel like the sjw/white muh privilege left falls into this trap and makes us all look cultish in our beliefs, like whites are inherently racist and there's no overcoming that, and blacks are an inherent underclass because they're black, and we have nothing in common with each other..

lol ditto. leftistnotliberalism.com ?

i'm not a web programmer but maybe worth checking if that domain is available lol

This, they are no different then the white supremacists they claim to hate. They seek to put their group's interest first and not their class interest

Post proof or fuck off

Yeah.
Fucking sidewalk users deserve it.

Oh I didn't read the greentext part. I figured you were complaining that people protested at all.

You let your useful idiots run wild, boomer leftists

Reminder that the people you're almost certainly referring to are goons from Weird Twitter, the people primarily responsible for the creation and growth of the post-2007 SJW phenomenon on Twitter, Reddit, Tumblr, Facebook, and elsewhere.

In spite of their pretensions, they are not your friend, do not trust any of them.

ABSOLUTELY BOURGEOIS

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"Brocialists get out."

At first this made me angry, then I realized how scary these people actually are. Obviously not as individuals, but their level of mob mentality, anti-intellectualism, and emotionality makes me think this is what literal witchhunts and lynchings looked like. They're so smugly self-righteous and delusional, they make up shit and throw around serious accusations like nothing. The scary thing is they act and think precisely like the alt-right but people not only tolerate them, they try to appease them.

I'm not even sure how you can deal with them. In all of these cases where they try to shout down a professor, the professor remains calm, mature and tries to engage in a dialogue, but they just continue shouting them down. I wonder if the only thing that can be done is just to shout louder than them and try to emotionally and intellectually bully them into submission.

Why are college students of all fucking people so anti-reason and mob-like?

I'm hoping it's at least partially because they haven't matured yet, and they haven't been exposed to opposing views as much. Of course, if people appease them, they will never be exposed to opposing views.

Maybe it comes down to professors not doing their job of challenging the student. If the student gives an opinion or belief, it should be challenged by the professor until they change it or are capable of justifying it.

Grandpa are you aware of the current timeframe? Professors like that or whose job was to educate are a dying breed. They're all being replaced by minimum wage adjuncts too overworked to care.

elaborate?

Basically, during the May '68 student protests across Europe, some students occupied the Frankfurt Institute and disrupted a class he was giving and refused to leave. Doing shit like having two women get onto the lectern and flash their tits while showering him with petals, as someone writes "As long as Adorno lives, Capitalism exists" and then he called the police to get them to leave. All because he wasn't supportive of their moral crusade.

Here's an paragraph from the exchange he had with another professor in California. hutnyk.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/adornomarcuse_germannewleft.pdf
demonized. I can only reiterate that they treated the students far more
leniently than the students treated me: that simply beggared
description. I disagree with you on the question of when the police
should be called. Recently, in a faculty discussion, Mr. Cohn-Bendit
told me that I only had the right to call the police if blows were about
to rain down on me; I replied that, by then, it would probably be too
late. In the case of the occupation of the Institute no other course of
action was possible. Since the Institute is an independent foundation
and is not under the protection of the university, responsibility for
everything that goes on here resides with Friedeburg and me. Instead
of occupying the department, the students decided to occupy a
‘modified’ Institute, as they called it at the time; one can only imagine
what else would have happened with graffiti and so on. Today, I would
react no differently to the way that I did on January. I regard the
students’ recent demand that I carry out public self-criticism as pure
Stalinism. This has nothing to do with ‘business as usual’,

The shitty thing is that while these students were basically proto-SJWs and using the same tactics, at least they were actually protesting and fighting against Capitalism.

It's funny how Adorno got bothered by college SJWs, it tears the whole cultural marxism conspiracy apart

It was the other way around, they constantly fucked with Adorno, despite him not having a problem with their movement. The New Left was cancer tbh.

What did he mean by this?
That's what I said, dammit.

I only read your latest post so I assumed so.

Their group's racial interest over their class interest is what I meant

I couldn't make it through the whole thing - my abs went weak with cringe. When's the Holla Forums meme?

Achieved solar escape velocity, and are currently hot on the trail of Voyager.

I was still on USENET during HACKERS ON STEROIDS, but this seems even more hilarious.

*jealously intensifies*

God help us all if someone ever manages to weaponise it.

Die

Stop calling neoliberals 'liberal'! Neoliberals are not liberal in any way. Fight their brainwashing!

You niggers are appalling. Maybe you're too stupid to realize how ignorant you all are, because blatant satire is certainly over your heads.

We're going to have to start labeling satire thanks to leftists. People who just don't get it, at all, when it comes to anything.

Once upon a time, liberalism—capitalism included—was a revolutionary leftist cause against the forces of absolute empire, theocracy, and monarchy. That things have moved on since doesn't mean we should redefine our terminology, only that we should let go of our past, including liberalism.