The Gays

What does leftypol think about the gays?

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it's full of reactionary 12 year olds with an incoherent worldview, take a guess

they are fags

gay people are gay

OP is one

Does it deal with worker ownership over the means of production or a force stopping the ownership over the means of production? No? Huh, guess we don't got much to say on the subject either way.

There are people who will claim otherwise because of idpol or bougie activism, but that's more captialism exploiting a community to make a profit, rather than the community itself. Gays as a concept we frankly don't give a shit about, in a positive or negative connotation.

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Neutral/dont care

The greatest thing to happen for the capitalists.

Now they don't need to say the welfare state and the like is leftism. They can just have two parties with the same economic policies, and you're "left" if you support gay rights.

KILL THEM

Love them

Like many social groups, gays include many types of people. Rich, poor, young, old, black, white. Having a universal opinion of them is pointless and idpol.

Overrated topic
But blatant homophobic violent actions should be fought

Funny story during my countries pride:
Even though it was organized by trots like 18 years ago, now big companies and normies, who only care about pride now because it is accepted and a good marketing campaign, are trying to coopt the march so that they can have brands and banks financing it.
And ive heard things like: communists and fascists are the same gay hating ideologies, therefore commies should be banned.
It's good to see idpol destroy itself 👌

Its called fully automated luxury gay space communism for a reason.

The only people who care about what other consenting adults do with their genitals ate closet fags. Simple

they are people, they are workers. Free the workers and you'll free them too

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Dysfunctional abominations that destroy the family unit thus posing the greatest threat to the worker's paradise. "Each according to his ability and each according to his needs." means one must use sexuality responsibility. There is a reason Soviet Russia sent them to labor camps.


Cry more. Unlike race and gender, actions and propensities towards actions don't make an identity. We don't say drug users or dug addicts are an identity and likewise we don't say butt fucking and desires to butt fuck is an identity. LGBT identities are strictly a bourgeois liberal construct, not a forwarding of true leftist goals.

Caring about other people's sex lives is another divide-and-conquer porky trick

But I want to have sex with other men.

How do they "destroy the family unit"?

Hold up.

Destroying the family unit is a true leftist goal.

Would be true if they weren't openly oppressed, but some straight up fucked up shit happens to gay people, and it is outside of their control (its not a choice). So not sure exactly why it matters.

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Fully support their rights, they are people like any other, some good ones, some bad ones.

Dropped your flag.

No U cry more, nazi trash

I don't care if someone is gay/bi/straight/trans. I only care if they support socialism.

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I don't know but they're doing a shit job so far.
hurry it up gays.

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Nothing really. Who cares what people do in their bedrooms?

Normalization of debauched behaviors that are sub-optimal for producing future offspring and normalization of the effeminate male. By proliferating sexuality to the masses, corporations are able to more easily commoditize sexually charged content to minors, also. Depriving workers of structure in their lives takes away purpose and ultimately makes them easier to control.


They're "oppressed" about a tenth as much as pedosexuals are, another "identity" that is allegedly "outside of their control", that is "not a choice".

counter-currents.com/2010/10/homosexuality-and-white-nationalism/

slate.com/blogs/outward/2017/06/05/how_alt_right_leaders_jack_donovan_and_james_o_meara_attract_gay_men_to.html

So do I.
Roman Heart is so gorgeous.

im gay

I hate them. They should all be exterminated. That's why I welcome the mudslime invasion. They'll kill the fags. I can convert to Muslim, not like it matters to me as a NEET.

I'm gay and so is OP.

Being gay is bourgeois.

Gonna need to see some proof of that. Sexualized content isn't that widespread outside of music-videos and some other television, and so far as I can tell homosexual or other ab-normal (in a non-pejorative sense) sexualizing does not occur - what little sexualization is done is purely heteronormative.

Only thing I can say for sure is that traps aren't gay.

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Heterosexuality is bourgeois you lifestylist breeder.

gays are probably the most classist, reactionary people I know
It's no surprise that so many of them are attracted to fascism
I think in a true socialist state, homosexuality would not exist. Not because it'd be clamped down upon, but because class conscious workers are simply not attracted to such a frivolous and exploitative lifestyle

Gulag

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A shit ton of gays are wannabe bourgeoisie. They are often highly consumerist and tend to often do actions in favor of porky. They are plauged with idpol and tend to not be class conscious

This is my strongest conviction, even before "communism will win".

Nobody goes gay after seeing a gay pride parade, user.

The masses have sexuality already. How do the gays lead to sexuality being used in marketing?

Again, what does that have to do with the gays?

gays are ok i guess i don't have any problems with the gays

i don't think gays have problems with me, either, so it's ok.

Nothing. Like I don't care about people with blonde hair or people with green eyes. Doesn't matter in the slightest.

If they join the cause, they are my brothers and sisters same as anyone else.

Cool folk, they do a great job in the fashion industry.

nazbol is 100% heterosexual. limonov may have sucked a black man's dick for a hotdog but he was just taking the piss/ drawing attention to the plight of the lgbt community

being gay is idpol. 100% of gays are numale sjws who are just doing it to virtue signal.

Can't tell if it's our boys shitting up this board or lefties are truly that degenerate

This century needs its Bill Aalto.

I sleep with dudes. dosent make me special or magic. i want equality of opportunity. might get married and foster someday.
Gay community does my head in though. The radical edge is gone and now it just whitewashes corporates. in Belfast Citi-group have a massive sponsorship thing goin on with the march. they were in front of the queer-anarchist last time. bit of a joke.
The most radical thing the "community" does is buy a new throw rug nowadays rather than creating havok and fighting the system.

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gay rights is a non issue at this point

almost every group including a lot of fascist groups are starting to warm up to homos

fascism was always about homosexual supremacy

Only Muslims and Evangelical Christians still care.

I never bought into that meme really. i got my shits and giggles by wearing a hammer and sickle badge in my very catholic and reactionary secondary school with some of the other metalheads. (i wasnt rad left then tbf, more liberalish). the gay thing was cool because they had the "commies killed 100 trillion people and suppressed Christians" while i had the opportunity to say "your church burned my people alive, i support the enemies of my enemy". always a fun exchange :D
Is that the breitbart paul joseph watson? ive only recently become aware of him. id like to take him on a short train ride out of Prague and add him to sedlec ossuary like the other pilgrims who visited there.

Not IDPOL. No reason to care. All should be equal, whether you like putting your dick in things or having dicks put in you. Such a dumb thing to quarrel over.

You don't actually think that's sincere, do you?

a good part of the fash leadership is comprised of homos

Homosexuality? I don't care. The gay "community"? Burn it with fire.

That I don't doubt. But what I was getting at is it's asinine fags identify with the fash because if anything ever goes down you know the fash is turning on the gays the second they can.

the fash inevitably tends towards dramatic self immolation. see WWII. it's more an expression of the death drive than a coherent political ideology.

Yeah, they usually do sew the seeds of their own destruction sooner or later. It'd be nice if they could speed it the fuck up though.

avoid the litany of responses from reactionary children, who are clearly from Holla Forums, trying on a new 'radical' internet identity, there is a real subversive potential within the gay community insofar as they have the unique ability to actually subvert the capitalist ridiculousness that is the bourgeois family structure (and this is ignoring, from an ontological standpoint, the fact that for psychoanalysis, 'homosexuality' in the majority of its formations doesn't even really exist).

in regards to the classic Holla Forums (typically covertly reactionary) stance to topics relating to 'idpol,' any real communist supports bourgeois queer/gay movements for their (despite being rooted in bourgeois epistemology) subversive approach to bourgeois conceptions of marriage, family, or sexuality, all of which are fundamental elements of the modern bourgeois apparatus.

My moms are gays, so I've met a lot of lesbians throughout my life. They're alright.

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I don't think anything. What I think is based on the individual.

Capitalism has already done this. Stop trying to relive the 70s.

of course i'm not denying the fact that capitalist media has effectively co-opted the modern gay (i wouldn't -yet- say trans) movement, however it can't handle, again, the psychoanalytic implications of homosexuality, which is why the modern ideology relentlessly tries to depict homosexual relationships as simply a different flavor of the bourgeois family (see: the american legislation of homosexual marriages, simply a distraction from the upset to the traditional (i.e. bourgeois) family real homosexuality causes) rather than a radical shift in our conception of sexuality.

Yes and it has largely succeeded. Capitalism can commodify literally everything except revolutionary communism. Your idpol cannot save you.

Let the *people* have what manner of sex *they* want. Period. You're an enemy of the people if you think otherwise.

you carelessly mentions gulags yet are somehow worried that BUTTSEX will corrupt families and societies? Are you fucking following the plot here? Do you need to go for a walk? Step away from the screen for 5 min?

GULAGS vs BUTTSEX? What creates the least amount of suffering here? What are better conditions for the everyday working Joe to coexist with here? What could *POSSIBLY* damage "muh family unit :((" more??

Let the *people* use *their* consensual sexuality the way *they* see fit, you fucking woolheaded retard.

own the means of sexual reproduction and all dat shit, nah fuck that man, we need GUIDANCE from our SCHOLARS on how to FUCK, that's what we need in our new SOCIALIST utopia, yeahhhhh kill me now

Fashion is fake culture created by the bourgeois. Partaking in fashion in an anti-revolutionary activity. Fashion is bourgeois.

That’s a lie. Having a family and marriage are all proletarian things to do. They help keep the proletariat strong.

Ouch

LET CHRIST TEACH YOU HOW TO FUCK

you're using the phrase 'idpol' to delegitimize my point without confronting anything i said. you're literally agreeing with me in terms of capitalism's ability to upset any potentially subversive movement that isn't directly anti-capitalist, however this ignores the fact that there can be elements of non-anti-capitalist arguments that have subversive potential despite their lack of class consciousness. your retarded as fuck idea of 'everything except revolutionary communism is commodified' presupposes that there is some part of our being we can relate to within capitalist society which isn't already commodified (yes this includes the majority of the iterations of modern ""revolutionary communism,"" look at the individualist identity 'anarcho' formations we see on this "revolutionary" imageboard). shut the fuck up with your philistine notion that any movement which has been co-opted by the bourgeois is somehow beyond saving; communism is feminist, communism is anti-homophobia, and communism is anti-racist, any attempt to deny these facts reveals your reactionary epistemology for what it is. this is not the disgusting idea of liberal pc identity politics, it's an understanding that these categories arose out of bourgeois ideology, and that we can choose to either reify them or reject them due to their reactionary origin. if you deny this, you're nothing more than a reactionary 4channer who has decided Holla Forums is no longer cool enough for himself. either agree with me or get the fuck out and stop pretending you're a leftist.

They spammed Holla Forums so they're fine by me.

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I'm gay and i'm anti capitalist.

Isn't it common knowledge that the Golden One is a closeted fag?

Basically how I feel, and I'm Gay af.

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I am a gay. I do the gay with the other gays. I also want to seize the means of production. But I also kinda have to recognize that pride events and queer spaces have been essentially seized by corporate interests, particularly MIC interests, via sponsorship.

I think tht there genuinely needs to be a battle for a new queer radicalism.

Could it be?
gAy J poster in Holla Forums??
I want to believe!

Fuck and Marry whoever you want, I don't give a shit. I find the flamboyant culture they have cringy as fuck though.

homosexual men are arch-misogynists and should be treated as such. they hate women so much they actively seek to segregate themselves.


-Carol Hanisch

true feminists understand that male homosexuality is an expression of the patriarchy and a last ditch attempt to maintain male power structures by excluding women. but The Future is Female! you are not left-wing if you support reactionary male homosexuality

It amazes me that you are a person that feed yourself and read books, yet you can't see the childlike obvious faults with your own opinion.

Do you just reject the whole scientific enterprise devoted to studying sexuality? Is every conceivable act a political "expression" to you?

Are you *totally sure* that you haven't overlooked some vital perspective when arriving at your opinion on this? Have you ever considered falsifying the claims this author makes?

typical commie jew

the left-right divide is MUCH more then retarted social issues. It’s also economics.

Droped your flag