Are the democrats learning all the wrong lessons from the recent elections?
""""NEW"""" DEMOCRATS
Nathan Stewart
Parker Jackson
The Democrats will never learn. I can't believe there are people browsing this board who unironically believe there was ever any hope for the dems.
Landon Moore
Meet the new Dems! Same as the old Dems but without the chocolate candy coating!
Asher Hill
I can commend Bernie for trying to reform the party, but it's a lost cause. There's no way the Democrats can start be reformed overnight like what Corbyn's been doing with Labour.
Josiah Ward
The Democratic Party is dead.
Now it's just a matter of waiting to see when this reality dawns on the American public. Will it be the embarrassing loss in the 2018 midterms? Will it be another Hillary-style fiasco in the 2020 presidential elections? Only time will tell.
But the sooner people realize that the Dems are a insular, suicidal party incapable of taking power back from the Republicans, the sooner we can really starting building the mass left opposition which we need to oppose capital.
Sebastian Walker
hahahahahah Trump is somehow going to win in 2020 oh my god
Owen Phillips
thats exactly what the dems want. more money to fight LE BOOGERMAN
Eli Myers
This is like the x (10km) and water (2km) picture, with money being 10km away and electability being 2km away.
Anthony Nelson
Yes. They keep trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole.
Demographics have changed. Nobody wants upper class liberalism anymore.
Jose Morris
This is on top of the 0-5 special election LOSS streak, including losing by SEVEN points to greg "bodyslam" giannforte.
But hey as long as the dems have money to burn its all good, right?
Caleb Thomas
I could have told you that. Only complete and total assholes like the Democrats could possibly lose to Trump not only once, but twice.
Henry Ross
Democrats are controlled opposition, they aren't supposed to win unless it benefits porky.
Carter Collins
It's actually pretty interesting, everybody knows democratic party and parliamentarian politics in general are irredeemable scam and yet when a push comes to shove, people will still try to unfuck it. Does it still count as being clouded by the ideology if people know it's bullshit?
Ian Scott
It's a sad state of affairs when even the people who proclaim left-wing values are more center than left.
John Wright
From what I've heard, Giannforte's supporters actually liked the bodyslam thing.
Grayson Jenkins
They weren't the right kind of Democrat for their support.
Adam Flores
I think that's exactly when ideology is at it's purest tbh. It literally means that the dominant ideology has such a hold over you that even though you know it's not true you can't help but act as though it's gospel and an entirely permanent fixture of the world.
Christian Diaz
There should be a word for when people not just not learn from their mistakes but learn the complete opposite lesson.
Aaron Brooks
Its called liberalism.
Ryder Walker
2/3rds of the vote in the Montana election were cast before the body slam
It had a minimal effect
Camden Thompson
There's a difference between having hope and being desperate. Being a leftist burger sucks dick
Leo Long
well so long as he doesn't support abortion
Wyatt Price
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Tyler Cook
Idaho here (very close to montana) everyone thought the body slam was hilarious and the reporter deserved it, etc.
Conservatives are obsessed with violence, tbh.
Christian Torres
en.wikipedia.org
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
Bentley Barnes
The Democrats are a shitty bourgeois party that has no hope for ever becoming a vehicle for any socialist movement.
That said, voting for Democrats is usually the rational thing to do because they are typically slightly less shitty than Republicans and therefore typically slightly better for working class interests. Of course, if there IS a genuine socialist running for an office (i.e., Kshama Sawant) and you have the ability to vote for them AND they have any shot of winning whatsoever, then obviously do that. Most people aren't that fortunate, however.
Benjamin Baker
burgers are ideologically blind and view politics as a sport, so I'm both not surprised and cynically depressed that the bodyslam didn't hurt and might have helped
Carter Kelly
This. You can cast your vote in early in Montana, which is what happened.
Isaiah Bailey
the new democrats are pushing two entirely contradictory narratives. In one, they are ideology free business technocrats, supported by both liberals and 'moderate republicans'. In the other narrative, new democrats are guardians of 'social justice' (whatever that may mean) against the class based left. Their gameplan: a shift to the right, camouflaged by strategic photo ops and the occasional spewing of tumblr buzzwords from 5 years ago. There's just too much tension for it to work.
Nicholas Scott
is the US a lost cause?
should I just try and get a job in Canada or UK?
Jaxon Nelson
Canada is more cucked than the US.
Jaxson Ward
things only seem to be getting worse- that should make us hopeful. American society and politics are imploding at an accelerating rate. Elites remain as clueless as ever, peddling the same old free market remedies that have proven not to work a thousand times before. The only solution is a radical solution.
Juan Campbell
Are they really? They at least have had a communist party that's won a seat. And SocDems can go full Soc if you push them
Hunter White
Do you think the US could actually keep its constitution should such change come or would an entirely new government have to be formed?
Logan Cook
They're galvanizing pretty hard behind pretty boy trudeu. Neolib is becoming the norm and something they're absolutely proud of where at least in the US you can find people who know SOMETHING is wrong
John Richardson
New Democrats have been a thing since the 80s and 90s.
Easton Young
That's true, but are their leftist parties really so forgotten? Do people react to leftism the same way Americans do?
Jordan Gutierrez
I'm a Canadafag. I can't stand Trudeau. Trudeau could very well cause Canada to shift to the right. The Liberals are really just capitalists who like gays, racial minorities and feminists. They are only slightly less bad than the Conservatives. And Canada never learns. They always alternate between the Liberal and Conservative party. They never go for the social democrats (NDP). And whenever NDP has power, they sell out (ie. British Columbia and Ontario) and go Third Way centrist.
You can't just expect anything to get done with bourgeois politics. Politicians are mediocre people (that's why they are in public office and not in the private sector) who care only about their self-interests. Representative democracy is well past it's due date. There's no reason why we shouldn't have Direct Democracy. Why? Well to quote our great Prime Minister: Because it's 2017!
In Ontario, people are sick of the provincial Liberals and the Conservatives will undoubtedly win in 2018 there.
Alexander Morales
That's fucking depressing.
So is the UK really the only major western country with leftist potential?
Angel Collins
At this point probably. Germany is like the cuck mothership and while france had some fervor it's sure to die down under their obama-style honeymoon phase where they worship at the alter of mr "young and does nothing worthwhile"
John Clark
Roi Emmanuel I, anyone?
Luis Nelson
Wait, he wants to be governor of two states?
Anyway
Dems are gonna get massacred in midterms.
Bentley Ortiz
Libs and Trudeau are considered "left"
Also no one gives a fuck about what neolib policies Trudeau is bringing, because look, he did that meme thing.
Nathaniel Brooks
Jeremy Corbyn wants a 10 quid/hr minimum wage or something. The fact that this is something to get excited about is depressing.
Workers won't struggle as much under Jeremy Corbyn Labour, but the quality of life is still going to be pretty bad.
You'll be able to make ends meet. But imagine working 40 hours/week at McDonald's or Tesco. +unpaid morning ritual time. +unpaid commute time. Dealing with nagging customers. Fast paced environment.
While a day trader like myself can make money more efficiently if they know what they are doing.
Day trading is not a stable way to make a living and every day I pray that I won't have to go back to 9-5 hell.
Adrian Ward
Seriously, what the hell dems.
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They ought to be ashamed of themselves. There was once a point where the democrats were almost left.
Sebastian Rodriguez
Good, once the reality of the republican majority sets in, then maybe people will finally wake up and look to an alternative to the two party system. It's a shame that a lot of people are going to get screwed bad in the upcoming time ahead, but it's been leading to this point.
Xavier Sanchez
Wow, the social situation didn't changed at all.
It's basically stagnating with no improvements in sight whatsoever.
Nathaniel Nguyen
Pretty much this, they're baffilingly arrogant and stupid
Gabriel Peterson
Goes back a lot further than that
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Luis James
Reminder that Huey Long was accused of being a fascist
Nathan Adams
Accused of being a fascist by people who'd turn around and say fascism's not really all that bad
Matthew Allen
Robert Perez
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Lincoln Campbell
he was a good man
Alexander Reed
HUEYYYYYYYY!
GOD DAMN YOU FDR, YOU CRIPPLED FUCK
Jeremiah Jenkins
funny how cuomo's son is such a cunt
Evan Cook
Huey Long is Nazbol
Evan Anderson
Still don't get why he is a bad guy in Kaiserreich
Cooper Fisher
Wait how is that supposed to be about Huey Long
What
Noah Bennett
so Lewis is saying Huey Long would instill " a return to patriotism and "traditional" values"
The fuck?
I was planning on reading that soon but I guess it's just ideological bullshit
Jaxson Brown
hope you don't like dfc or facesitting
Eli Morgan
I'm considering moving to england just because of the socialism tbh. I'm just worried about Corbyn's immigration policy.