Can we talk about how youtube is fucking cancer for a minute? Seriously every channel is either some autistic ancap/right-libertarian 14 year old sperging out, or an le rational skeptic/new centrist athiest edgelord, or some bitch using her tay tays to gain a following of incel virgin Holla Forumsacks shaking her cans into the camera and sperging out about the jooz or w/e. Seriously, as a youtuber when you post a response to their shit either as a video or in a comment they fucking DELETE it, so much for the freeze peach right I guess. Finnish Bolshevik could wipe the floor with these little shits any day of the week yet channels like his get ignored in favor of some fucking alt right bimbo or morons like PJW. "Feminism is refuted, socialism is refuted, lul", if by refuted you mean one dude who never read a left wing book (or perhaps any book) in his life doing some 45-2 hour long rant into a camera. Almost every argument they bring up has been addressed by the left over 9000 times but yet they have the audacity to bring it up over and over and end up just repeating it so much that people end up believing it because their channels flood the YT algorithms. Basically, there's no need for them to be right when the opposition is drowned out, this is why le free market of ideas meme is fucking stupid.
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Bomh Bawerk is still waiting for a refutation. See how I mentioned an individual instead of the abstrac "left"? I could also have mentioned an idea instead of attributing every refutal to "my side". Pretty sure there is a rightie with the exact same rant you just made.
Also the reason why those retards are famous, alongside bullshit SJW youtubers, is because of the state of the MSM. Try looking into science and unbiased history channels. Time better spent than you shitting all over yourself over nothing.
Shut up faggot
I`m convinced that Finnish Bolshevik is not even a person with political views but the official party line of the Communist Workers' Party. He holds no interests in current events, realpolitik or trade unions.
The state of Youtube is only a reflection of society as-is as a platform.
He got one in 1899 from his own student which plunged him into irrelevance outside of the think tanks in which he later was remarketed. Since we're talking Youtube, see: youtube.com
his shits pretty good tho
People "debating" on jewtube are just revamped versions of the political shows from the old media, except with bigger interactivity(comments) and less constraints since there is no board of directors caring about the views. The faster you stop caring about them, the better you will feel as a whole.
in other news, water is wet, fire is hot.
Or maybe he's sticking with the concept on his channel?
How about Popper's criticism of the LTV or the cases where it is inapplicable or that japanese dude mathematical model that did not predict the TRPF or the whole controversy regarding empirical (or lack of, depending on your position regarding the hypothesis) surrounding it.
This tbh, 10 years ago it was fedora atheists channels, now it's anti-SJW, give it time (and perhaps another crisis) and it might turn full Marxist
TFRP is debated, depending on how you measure it, it can be argued to be valid or not. As for Okishio, Kliman and the TSSI/temporal school blew his argument out of the water years ago. Also Popper's philosophical criticism of the 'metaphysical' nature of SNLT, does not apply to modern probabilistic/econophysical Marxist economics.
Deep down I fear that moment because youtube e-celebs are all so braindead I almost feel sorry for the opinions they are supposed to represent.
How about you don't watch e-celeb garbage in the first place, user-kun?
Nice rant. Thing is it seems most lefty ytubers try to respond with rational and logical arguments to these asshats. Problem is most of the general population are borderline retarded, and they don't want well thought out arguments, they want lulz and entertainment. And they want confirmation bias, not to learn.
Options are 1) fight/argue with them, planting the seeds of doubt in their minds, and when they reach a tipping point and start seeking out information on their own accord (with an open mind), have resources available to convert them. 2) fight fire with fire. Unpopular opinion on this board (with some users) but you can go after them with their autist-teir memes and muh feels > muh realz, dumb stuff like that.
lolno, right now outraged commentary liberals like PJW and Sargon are like catnip to lemmings, and you idiots keep giving them material by autistically chimping out about le evil DRUMPF.
Lurk more, faggot.
One of the reasons that I like this place is that it's one of the few places which isn't full of liberals shrieking about how Trump is a fascist and is willing to shout down both "muh genders" and "muh race" idpol.
Never happened.
Never happened.
"Politics" on youtube like we see now wasn't even a thing until Athiesm+, and that was ONLY targeting christians. As soon as other identity politics came into the fore it was 100% right wing reactionary. That was around 2014.
I've lurked this shithole long enough to realize that much like the other Holla Forums's you don't practice what you preach.
Give me some examples of such "right-wing reactionaries" on youtube, because I haven't seen any aside from KK and they sure ain't raking millions of views.
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Most lefty youtubers made like 1 video about Trump. Liberals are as leftist as Paul Ryan is alt-right.
The vast majority of leftists see Trump as hardly different than Clinton. Or put another way, the difference between Clinton and Trump is paultry nuance. The general opinion amongst most leftists (inb4 reddit) is that Trump is a consequence of capitalism and the quasi-representative bourgeois charade we call our government. but tl;dr is we hate Trump just as much as we hate any other porky. lurk moar
Really activates the almonds!
leftists never dominated YT lol.
And on topic, all do your part by using this chart then.
most of these are more cryptofascist than fascist but generic young republicanism is basically the 'counterculture' on YT now.
Sasuga, /leftypoz/. Should have posted actual fascists like Red Ice Radio or the plethora of TRSodomite spin-offs but no, you had to lie.
I can't argue with you because you literally think everyone who isn't an overt Nazi is left wing, by that definition then yeah I guess you're right, YT is totally socialist.
Not even cherry picked, literally every single comment that was there when I loaded the page
Not that there aren't genuine nazis on youtube, but they either get banned on the spot or get so few views that would contradict your LIE of youtube being full of "le evil fascists raking in millions of views". Hell, even Dickless Dickie Spencer the poster boy of the aut-right has very few subs.
Why are you so angry? Isn't this the "independent creativity" you wish to bring to the rest of the proletariat after you liberate them from their wagecuck jobs :^)
After the revolution Jimbo from 7/11 will make "authentic" art about how much he hates niggers and mudslimes
Hate to say it but TFB isn't really a good youtube channel. I enjoy watching him sometimes but he really puts minimal effort into his videos. He usually doesn't have a script, and instead he's just ad libbing. His editing is literally just puting the recorded audio over a picture of Stalin in windows movie maker.
Also he seems incapable of talking about real world problems, current events or making an interesting analysis of shit thats going on. Half of his videos are just about debunking cold war propaganda and explaining why Stalin was the fucking best actually.
strawman/10
His recent videos arguing against the Leftcom/Trotskyst talking points as to why ML isn't socialist was pretty structured. He also uses more video material recently.
Give him some more time, he is young and autistic. I find him more enjoyable than Muke who rides the eCeleb train too much and keeps acting overly smug when he often has no idea about what he is talking about
regular people are all at work.
guess who spends his day "raiding" stuff on ïnterweb.
that being said that video was a huge bait.
i mean what did they expect?!
Yes that was a pretty good video.
Is he actually autistic or do you mean he's just a bit awkward?
Oh yea definitely. I like Muke's "personality" or whatever but his videos aren't that interesting to me because he doesn't seem to have that good of an understanding of Marxism, nor does he have a lot of historical knowledge of actually existing socialism like TFB does. I remember a debate he did with some guy and listening to it was a bit cringey and also really annoying because a lot of time he was right but couldn't argue his points in a way a liberal would understand. Like, if you say "the bourgeois state is a tool of class domination" or "capitalists own the state" or something like that, liberals will put you in the same category as a bunch of conspiracy retards if you don't drop the commie rhetoric for a second and explain it in a way they'll understand.
Figuratively. Just the way he's into that stuff seems to be quite out of the ordinary for somebody his age. Not sure if he's awkward, I think he's particulary Finnish, the Fins I've met have all been a little awkward to deal with.
I've never really seen him win a debate, mostly because he's unable to get his points across. Also I've seen him ranting against IdPol on Twitter which came over as a little bit embarrassing. Also, he really needs to start lifting.
Absolutely. Usually you should have to start off an argument explaining the way materialism argues: Explain how people act in patterns according to their material conditions and how it is eventually the system itself that presupposes certain behavioral traits. With that I've had good success in debating liberals, because if you look at it idealism doesn't really have anything going for it and everyone can easily be convinced to think in materialist concepts.
You know, days like theses make me understand why many monarchists hated the great enlightenment.
I wouldn't worry about youtube, the site is run for shit and paying people to yell and scream about every movie or video game, incompetent, people are just fleeing to twitter and maybe places like this.
Why? Because while they have their little hovel there, everyone else is leaving who isn't already on the google dole, they're still alienating a large chunk of the population.
The whole thing is unsustainable and people are catching on to mocking the popular figures in equal number on Twitter.
And Twitter, as much as you hate me for saying this, is far better to get your ideas across without listening to a 5 hour lecture by Sargon and Co about how Corbyn is the antichrist despite his popular gains.
They all have a devoted audience, but it isn't reflective of all internet demographics. Twitter isn't social justice warrior if you look the right place, even if you hate FYAD types, it's more entertaining than listening badly facial hair no hair cut fucks talk about all this shit for hours on end. It alienates everyone but their base.
My idea? just let themselves fuck their shit, if nobody is there popular than them, then why would anyone continue visiting?
Let them destroy their reputation with their friends and family. And let the evacuation from that hell hole only speed up.
is that chart ever gonna get an update? there are more leftist youtubers now like eastern marxist, mexie, and leftist perspective for example
And let me add that Mexie and Eastern Marxist are delivering better quality than any of these in the chart
the problem is, youtube is still huge and is/will be the only site on the whole internet which really has videos. Yeah you can say vimeo/daily motion or whatever but thats like comparing INTEL to amd, its not even close
Sure thing, but even if you disagree they at least deserve to be added to the list. Plus that brandon w/e kid whos a dem soc or something.
I think mexie is on the list when i checked under 'mix': even though shes actually kinda tankie
How would eastern marxist, hawaii left review, and leftist perspective be classified under that media chart? Speaking of leftist perspective hes really underrated here imo.
Mexie is full-on tankie, she hides her powerlevel behind that hipster-vegan schick
Finnish Bolshevik radicalized her
Why is MrDapperton on there? Hes a massive ancap, not a centrist. Also, logicked (the guy in the top left) is actually pretty alright.
Why don't Holla Forums complain about Facebook or Tumblr?
Oh wait, because Holla Forums only targets right wing sites.
Right-wing victim complex
We don't "target" anything, it's Holla Forums who cares about stuff like YouTube comments
Holla Forums cares more about Twitter, champs.
We don't even screencap Youtube comments like ITT.
That's why I wanna start my own channel. People other than liberal SJWs who think everybody's "literally Hitler" needs to take it to them aspies.
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Facebook is a social networking site that has a lot of people from all over the political spectrum. Tumblr is insignificant. Youtube is for many people their primary source of entertainment. They are not at all comparable to each other.
you know you could update it right
Untrue, but even if this was true he still hasa really good channel
All tanks imo
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It's a general suits and tie compilation but yeah a couple examples dont fit the rest
I know of some free tech crap that may help at least alleviate the symptoms you describe. If you have a firefox fork (idk if they have anything like this for Google Crohms), install the greasemonkey add-on and the youtube+ or blockyoutubeusers script. These let you block all the trumpenspam, walking pairs of tits, unboxings, Spiderman Elsa for Kids shit, 'professional' gamers/reviewers/vloggers/media dingleberries that look like gay porn stars, pajeetspam bait-and switch bootlegs of shows and movies, Holla Forumsyps with their oh-so-witty ironic jew usernames and all the other cancerous bullshit. You can also use at least one of those to disable autoplay and I think ads too (I have something else that does that so idk if it works). It's great too because you get right to that weird part of youtube once you clear the filthy normalfaggotry out of the way.
Screencap post or back up vid, repost, repeat. If you do it enough it will drive them to autistic meltdowns and possibly reveal the lolcows among them when they start seeing you in every shadow and flipping their shit.
link me his shit and I'll have a look
Spread the word about the tech crap I told you about and make it so people can block that shit. If enough people do it, the turds you mention will have their e-begging bux dry up.
forgive me, but isn't the recommendation engine of YT done on the server side? How will blocking scripts change it? unless your just blocking them yourselves, but that will make it so you don't see them, their fans and the normies still will
so was this image made because they were all wearing suits or is that just their brand
I dont know who 3/4ths of those faggots are, and armored skeptic is more like an anti sjw liberal
It isn't hard to be better than Muke. Also, TFB is a disingenuous little shit. You can go through each and every one of his videos and meticulously pick apart his bullshit, but no one does it because there's so much of it. He's little better than a New Atheist or a Creationist spewing so many talking points that you can't refute them all. Just call out the lies and let them stand alone - if you can't trust him to argue in good faith on one topic, who's to say that he can do so on other topics as well?
The death of the socialist movement has to at least be something better than self-sabotage because an emotional teenage tankie has a stick up his butt over straw men of left communism and anarchism. As it is, this is pathetic.
Fucking no. No, absolutely no. All of the leftists interested in cybernetics (Eastern made the first working prototype of a calculator AFAIK) are very critical of the USSR, both of its Stalinist era and of the bureaucracy. There is direct continuity between those two things. Even if their ideas of democracy are unworkable, utopian, and based in a misunderstanding of democracy's relation to state power (see: "When Insurrections Die"), they represent a leap forward from the cesspit of ML and its derivatives. Plus, there's a whole host of other ways that Cockshott BTFO's tankie idpol like anti-imperialism.
Okay, so Cockshott states that the USSR was socialist (something which is highly debatable and which I'd have to disagree with). He's still extremely critical of it and closer to a utopian than a tankie in praxis, which speaks to how big of a deviation tankies are from actual socialists - his only real contributions to the discussion of connecting theory directly to praxis is a rejection of all that tankies hold true and dear dogmatically because [insert red monarch] said so. That is a stunning indictment of how far of a deviation the state-serving ideology that is ML is from communism, the real movement to abolish the present state of things, that it created such a strong backlash in him that he retreated entirely from that line of thought into the more purely theoretical side of things (out of which all his astoundingly excellent work has come).
Tankies are ultra-opportunistic cancer and need to be revealed as silly and without place in a modern socialist discourse. Theoretically and praxis-wise, there is no point to Leninism, let alone ML, in the modern world. Ideas based upon Marx's original method such as Situationism and communization have consistently proven to work better.
Best time to make one before the content is over saturated. Right Wing politics is looking more like a disappointment by the day and the proles want answers.
I agree. but if anyone makes one it better be on the quality level of hbomberguy. the dude really invests time in his videos.
OK Eastern is a cybernetics guy but I see no evidence that the other two are nothing but tankies (not that there's anything wrong with that, but i do disagree with it). Plus even Eastern is pretty tankie if you look at his other vids, hes basically FinnishBolshevik's littler brother.
Can we focus more on shitting on YT instead of talking about e-celebs again? There's leftytrash for that.
YT is all about E-Celebs tho. you cant talk about YT without youtubers. In any case what do you think we should do to improve it? more leftist youtubers? upvoting leftie videos more or use bots to get our message out from the YT algorithms?
What the fuck how old is TFB?
No idea, thought he was a regular adult age