was the holodomor genocide y/n
Was the holodomor genocide y/n
Thomas Foster
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Aaron Brooks
In order for it to be a genocide it would first have to happen.
Nathaniel Barnes
Was there people in Ukraine who starved during the 1920s while it was under soviet control? Yes.
Was that famine caused by soviet economic policy? Partially yes, but you can't blame the state for everything as famines were fairly common in that region during that time period, even under the Tsar.
Was this famine an intentional genocide of Ukrainians by the big bad soviets? Hell no.
Anthony Brooks
Please stop thinking with memes. How are we better than Holla Forums if we learn from jokes turned consensus?
Oliver Perry
How can it be a genocide? Stalin had no motive to create a famine, it actually weakened his position thus why in response to the famine Stalin cracked down on opposition. Holodomor is a tin foil hat conspiracy theory.
Camden Mitchell
It's ironic the US cries about that considering they carried out one of the most focused and unrepentant genocides of all time with the Indian wars
Jacob Gonzalez
Holodomors were regular in Russian Empire. Productivity of agriculture highly fluctuated because of periodic drought. The last holodomor, which happened in Stalin's time spread over some parts of Ukrane, south Russia and north Kazakhstan. The Kazakhstan suffered the most.
After resolution peoples who responsible for failing the provision of food got implantation of lead in their bodies.
Was it genocide? No. Because not only Ukranians died in that catastrophe.
Was it on purpose? No. Otherwise it had to continue, but it's not.
Was it the fail of socialism? No. Because famine was not only in UUSR, but in nearby countries too, like Poland.
I hope, your eyes doesn't flow out while you read that text with my awful english. Sorry.
William Smith
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Adam Perez
Anyone with half a brain would say no. It's only used as a smear tactic–"Soviet's holocaust", etc.
Lucas Powell
Stalin sure didn't send any grain.
Ayden Mitchell
Two wrongs don't make a right, but I think that it's fair to say that it was partly caused by climate conditions.
Hunter Butler
He still could have sent grain.
Dylan Edwards
The Holodomor aka Holohoax is the greatest lie ever perpetrated upon mankind.
Adrian Harris
From were?? Lots of people starved as well in Russia and Khazajstan
Dylan Rogers
Holodomor denial is a lot like holocaust denial.
Jonathan Evans
It happened, we can only argue how much did Bolsheviks fuck up intentionally and how much they were just stupid
Eli Edwards
HOLODOMOR IS "FAKE NEWS"
HOLODOMOR DID NOT OCCUR
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Lucas Perry
true revoltionary vanguard
counter-revolutionary trotskist infiltrators
Camden Peterson
It was just doing the usual collectivisation of the crops. There was a shortage from a drought and Stalin didn't compensate for that enough.
Luke Cook
That sounds like Stalin had to personally harvest crops in the garden of his Dacha
Jayden Lee
that would be amusing. Maybe i could have worded it better.
Mason Taylor
Have some retarded nazi propaganda
Michael Foster
Really activates my almonds
Jayden Jackson
Ironically that is actually nazi propaganda.
Robert Wilson
YOU ARE LIKE NAZIS
- Spams nazi lies -
Brandon Cooper
Is that a fucking alien in the top right of the first picture?
Lincoln Rivera
While there certainly were famines, there had also been famines in 1891 and 1914 in Tsarist Russia, and leading up to that there had been regular famines going back almost 1000 years (first documented in the Nikonian Chronicles). While people did starve under Stalin, I would be hard-pressed to acknowledge it as a genocide. In fact, one of the few positives of Stalinism from an anarchist perspective such as mine is that his industrialization did end the famines - there have not been any since 1947 due to the consistent policy of surplus production to compensate for the unreliability of steppe soil in output.
Adrian Bailey
sounds like a great idea mate