LGBT

It's still legal in several US states to fire someone for being gay or transgender. Your stance that activism is stupid or that LGBT "already have all their rights" is profoundly detached from basic reality.

as long as right to work states exist. any minority is gonna be taken to task tbh

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_and_LGBT_rights

If you have a capitalist framework that allows a boss to fire you for no reason whatsoever, you can make all the moral adjustments you want concerning whatever identity is currently being hip. What about women being fired because they are pregnant? What about Muslims? Fuck off with your IdPol that only concerns 0,001% of the population.

They are rights, you dip. The same rights everyone else has.

So LGBT people get special rights?

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None of the imageboard ppl I've met IRL are 'straight'. Maybe it's time to move beyond liberal identitarian 'lgbt' symbolism, which has become just another tool of management in the hands of capital and the state.

I'm not sure if you are too dumb to understand such a simple concept so this will be my last attempt to explain it: Basic rights already exist for everybody (unless you are dehumanizing gay people or something). The absence of state-enforced discrimination is not a right.

people might have legal equality but that means nothing if laws are enforced in a discriminatory/hypocritical manner.

rights exist for no one. The state of exception is not the exception but the rule. 'Rights' granted by the liberal state can be withdrawn at any moment.

Show some examples or this means nothing

Alright, and if legal misconduct happens I'm sure people will bring this to the publics attention. Again, once you open the box of pandora which is IdPol you can never stop. There are hundreds, if not thousands of structural mechanisms in capitalism which are de facto violent or discriminatory against people of all different identities.

Unless you have a concrete example where LGBT people are being mistreated by the state your statement is useless

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The law cannot be enforced impartially because law is by its very nature an instrument of class power. You are still thinking within a liberal middle class framework. The system is rigged, liberal reforms and performative displays of tolerance will do nothing for homeless lgbt youth in the streets.

that was the point i was trying to make. Should have explained myself more.

Thank you for confirming that Maotards are just conservatives dressed in red.

There's plenty of places where they can't marry or adopt. There's places where they'll get lynched if they come out as gay. I'm gonna say the right to not get lynched because you like the incorrect genitalia is important.

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creating damage control laws for a system that was able to oppress you in the first place solves nothing.
LGBT rights activists primarily consists of Social Democrats

Are you really this fucking shortsighted? I, as a socialist, do not want anti-lgbt discrimination (or any discrimination on the basis of identity) in a socialist society. Worker insurrection is my primary goal but being anti-discrimination is not "IdPol"

Show where these places exist in the west where you get lynched as a gay person. That's a pretty bold claim.

Marriage should be a private instition. However, state should monitor reproductive behavior of the population, which may or may not lead to granting advantages for marriages between a biological man and a biological woman.

Besides the obvious questionable idea of not granting a kid a mother and a father (which are statistically proven to result in more stable people), why the fuck would you even want to adopt a child as a gay person? Just find a surrogate mother

as it should be. Most LGBT people are working class.

who said anything about the west, i said that they must have that right and there are places where they don't.

Yes it should and it isn't. People should have equal rights and they don't. I don't care about your special weltanschauung, that's not what's being discussed.

i don't even understand what you're thinking here. why would they find a surrogate mother when there's plenty of already born children that need a family?

god Holla Forums really needs to fucking leave.

It practically already is. What's stopping you from calling someone a husband or wife? Literally the only thing where there is a difference still might be some specific tax advantages in some countries, and guess what, they exist so people get children, for fucks sake. Family is part of the fabric of society, the most bottom level of human integration, and of course society as a whole concern itself with that.

Because people like to raise their own flesh and blood? At least this way the child gets at least a father, getting neither a father or a mother usually results in an unstable person.

I just opened the constitution of my country and yeah, they pretty much do

Gb2 reddit

Nothing, but if i have to go to the hospital because i got badly injured and i'm gay, my partner has to wait until it's visitors time to meet me and the doctor can't tell him what happened to me because only relatives are admitted.

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are you a burger? Do you seriously trust the capitalist state to treat people well? Legal equality does very little to prevent actual discrimination from happening.

Really, that's a fucking serious problem for you First Worldist? Geez, guess you got me there. But isn't that the policy of the respective hospital, and not the state? And aren't civil unions already overcoming that?

Thank God no.

Obviously not, nice strawman. That's why capitalism in its entirety has to be abolished, not trying to have idealistic patches that never work (like seriously, what are you suggesting except equal rights? A quota for LGBTQEIDJSBI+ faggots in CEO boards?) and even if they did you'd get capitalism with a homosexual face. Yeah no, and if you really want to play the IdPol card, maybe start somewhere that doesn't affect only 0,001% of society.

Ok retard.

no, it's state mandated, and even if it weren't nobody shoudl be expected to pick his hospital based on lgbt friendliness. also who the fuck picks hospitals? you go to the nearest public one.

i still don't know why you care that two gay people need a basic right that everyone else has. i guess sperging about meat in another thread wasn't enough for your autism quota.

But i guess it speaks for itself that you even need to debate such an obvious thing. Evidently the gays really need these problems to be pointed out.

show me where anyone here is suggesting quotas, retard. We're not talking about liberal bullshit.

saying that maybe you shouldn't needlessly discriminate against people isn't idpol. saying that some people shouldn't be allowed to get married or visit their partners at the hospital because they're gay IS idpol, however.

Drop the T and I don't care about them
Free to fuck whoever you want
But trannies will go to gulag

I think he's trying to say that as long as capitalists exist, discrimination will exist. There is no stopping capitalists from treating people like shit. LGBT activism also just plainly sucks.

So long as the workers own the means of production, gays could get burned for fuel for all I care.

Woah woah woah guys I know you're all getting your labor exploited but did you know there's no legal repercussions if this private hospital says this man can't visit his boyfriend? You're not idpol, are you?

Class struggle effectively renders politics of identity moot. Power is derived from material reality, no matter what some post-structuralist baboon claims.

shiggy

You could be sure. My question is why? Why would you not support the rights of people to do what they want with their genitals as consenting adults?

thoroughly spooked

Eat shit.

Most companies can fire anyone for anything without warning. Stop worrying about muh identity and start looking at the system itself.

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Are all maoists this spooked?

trans mod here. Have this cyclical. All future LGBT threads will be redirected here

Because

I like how you cloak your reactionary bullshit in a red flag. You're repeating pretty much the same anti-gay shit that one can find of Holla Forums and trying very hard to dress it up like you're the only real leftist in this thread.

Yes. You do have to not forcibly take away other people's autonomy to be a communist, otherwise how in the fuck are you going to expect communism to work? You can't just gulag all the gays and trannies, once you kill them all, more will be born, you will need a perpetual large state to preserve your little idpol crusade.

Wait, facts are now reactionary? If I had said something similar about white people or straight people you would be nodding in agreement. But once somebody says something critical about your favorite bourgeois identity it's reactionary. You don't actually give a shit about what was said, you just want to be contrarian to Holla Forums, your Big Other.

Actually, homosexuality and gender dysphoria is mostly caused by environmental conditions. I'd say a lot has to do with alienation as well

i love girls uwu

No matter what causes it, you are not a person who has any real authority to stand in their way. As soon as you attempt to enforce your imagined authority over such a thing, you quit being leftist. Then again, if you start adding more people's names to marxism you start to drift away from leftism anyways.

Sure, if we're talking about "facts" you cherry pick and use to support your argument. It's confirmation bias. Do you really believe gay people shouldn't adopt?
What on earth are you talking about?
No, I'm trying to figure out why you eat up ant-gay shit and then repeat it here uncritically.
Also, a first-world Maoist talking about identity is pretty fucking rich m8.

Straight white persecution complex. When people lose a position of privilege they fear they are becoming the new oppressed.

Are you really surprised

the best way to achieve communism is to make it so that everyone is to busy being gay to exploit anyone

Overthrowing the bourgeoisie is an act of enforcing authority. Anarchists had labor camps. To go from capitalism to 2nd-stage communism directly is impossible.

Intersectionality is pretty bourgeois.

I'd say it wouldn't be preferable.

Now that's a persecution complex, just because I have a critical opinion about adoptions and ate very critical of the LGBT+ movement as it currently exists im anti-gay. That's like calling somebody who is critical of banks an anti-semite, or someone opposes imperialism an anti-americanist.

Exploitation and extraction of surplus value from the Third World is a material reality, not an identity.

Stop idealizing homosexuals

can we just ban maoists, they aren't really communists anyway

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I'm a homosexual user

meme-tier understanding of Maoism but okay

This board became a Leftcom/AnCom circlejerk so I don't expect you to read anything outside of your safe space

why do you expect people to read, mao didn't

Mao was a huge fucking nerd dude

No it's not, it's an act of eliminating authority.
Shitty anarchists then.
ebin Holla Forumsro. Learn what both of those words mean.

My point has been proven right here, hasn't it?

I fucking wish m8, even some of the anarchists here are just leninists.

never read marx though

I know, I shouldn't be.

This is hilarious. Maoist, keep posting. I'm sure the third world you idealize (it's totally not an identity!) will love your white persecution complex.

its completely OK to be a trans lesbian user

top fucking kek
So if I'm putting members or agents of the bourgeoisie into prison I'm not enforcing authority over them in this very moment? Jesus wept

Intersectionality is class collaborationism in practice.

Yeah, sure, me pointing out that you resort to someone's skin color as an argument has "totally proven you right". Fuck off and take your progressive stack bullshit somewhere else.

Just stop being poor!

Stop idealizing yourself

no

What you believe is wrong. Turning the whole world gay won't end capitalism. Stop idealizing homosexuals.

dude do you think I was serious lmao

here, have a (you)

This isn't Reddit or Tumblr, and you won't get special treatment for being gay.

That's up to the people I'm attracted to in the end.

If you're putting people in prison or work camps, you're not overthrowing the bourgeoisie, you're becoming the replacement of the bourgeoisie.
Learn what that means. Seriously. Google it. Your random rambling about intersectionality in no way proves that anything in this thread is a "bourgeois identity" or that the idea of that being a thing is even coherent.

I mean, when I said people in positions of muh privilege lash out and fear they're becoming the new oppressed when they lose those positions of muh privilege, and you said "so fuck white people amirite?!?!XDXD" yes, that does prove my point, you demonstrated it perfectly.

No but you will have people chime in to bitch about it.

persecution complex

Maybe not literally but there are people who believe homosexuals are somehow more virtuous than heteros

So we now have a cyclical thread dedicated to whats essentially idpol? This board is turning into a Leper colony…

When you counter right-wing idpol by supporting certain groups that they wish to prevent, is that "liberal idpol" or is it an attack upon the current existing structures of right-wing idpol?
Maybe both, but definitely the second one, which means shut up stupid.

Here's what you said:

So, in your mind, white people are actually the persecuted ones but LBGT+ need to fuck right off? This is coming from a """""Maoist"""""" lmao

would you rather ten different threads on the first page going

It cleans up the catalog

They also want to exterminate Zionists, and Islamic extremists, I guess the enemy of your enemy is actually your friend. If we start supporting those factions that'll really fuck with their idpol structures!

why do you hate gay people so much its kind of weird

kek, you seem confused.
Who are "they" and why do you use them as an excuse to perpetuate ring-wing identity politics?

We don't hate gay people. Fuck off with your divisive idpol

oh wait the right wing is they, since I brought them up. I'm sober I'm sorry.
Well that's stupid as well. You can't use the right to justify the right.

That's what actively suppressing the interests of a minority group means user.

No it literally just adds gender to the list of protected identities, along with race and sexuality. That's it, they'll have nothing more than minorities and gay people do

You're like Richard Spencer talking about a "peaceful ethnic cleansing". A revolution will per definition be violent, and you will have to restrain those who seek to destroy it. With that argument the Soviets should have just stopped at the East Prussian border. How many layers of idealism are you on?

Also, bourgeoisie doesn't mean "people who tell me what to do".

Are you able to compress your argument into a sentence of your own. Intersectionality - according to its definition - transcends class, which means it's basically class collaborationism in practice. Unless you show me that there is a significant correlation between class and certain identities, I have no reason to view it as otherwise.

Stopped reading there. You think I'm muh privileged because I'm white and straight? Fuck off. I'm muh privileged because I live in the First World, and that has nothing to do with my skin color. Economic relations are always is what shapes our muh privilege, after all.

Take your meds, I was never talking about white people, that was totally brought upon me, nor was I saying that, I was merely pointing out your confirmation bias. Good job putting stuff out of context - my stance has been made clear multiple times that I don't give a shit about neither white identity nor about LGBT identity. But for some reason that Anarcho-"Nihilist" thinks critisizing the LGBT movement is "white persecution complex".

Now that's a real fuckin' sad excuse for an argument.

Clearly you do, though:

These aren't the arguments of someone who doesn't give a shit. Those are the arguments of someone who buys into anti-gay propaganda.

No, that's you, the one arguing FOR work camps.
Your work camps and prisons are not the revolution.
No you will destroy them, eliminate their threat, don't create new systems of mass oppression that won't go away after your """communist""" revolution.
The soviets should have stopped period.
Bourgeois doesn't mean "things I don't like" either you stupid faggot.
No. What? No. What does that have to do with you claiming gays are a "bourgeois identity"? Nothing.
This is your argument, not mine.
Yes. Dumb fuck. You do have things guaranteed to you that others do not. As a white/straight/man you will never experience discrimination based on you being black/gay/a woman. How could you possibly deny this?
Why not both dumbass?
You're not a very good maoist. Race is an easy justification for imperialism. You should know this.

How disgusting.

What you quoted doesn't require a white identity. Best to stop posting now. If seriously everything that contradicts the official LGBT+ agenda™ is "anti-gay propaganda" you're just a SJW who wants to silence people who have a different opinion than you. Make a proper argument or piss off.

Literally you with your insane claims about everyone you don't like being bourgeois even though they own no property.

Did /leftytrash/ clean up the catalog?

no one uses that kind of terminology but homophobic conspiracy nuts and christian fundies.

before /leftytrash/ we used to have a lot more e-celeb threads so yeah

This is your brain on /r/socialism, and cheap liquor.

Then why did you bring up muh white people?

And what would that be?

The left should stand for universalism, not particularism. This means that the only true way to emancipate LGBT people is by removing them as a special category instead of recognizing their identity.
That is to say, simply refer to them as normal people instead of giving them a special identity.

It kinda reminds of how liberals have embraced ethnic segregation in cities because it allows minorities to "preserve their own culture".

I'm saying this precisely because I desire the freedom of LGBT people, recognizing them as a separate category is what legitimatizes the reaction against them.

Yes, this doesn't mean that racial discrimination isn't real. You sincerely deny that?
Yes. This doesn't mean that discrimination based on gender or gender identity isn't real. You sincerely deny this?
The environment is arguably equally as important as class.
IF I USE MY BIG GOVERNMENT TO HOLD DOWN THESE PEOPLE I DISLIKE THAT'S ANARCHISM NOW.

yeah it seems like a dead giveaway. Curious what Maoist's defense of that term will be

it kinda did tbh

based on my admittedly limited interaction with LGBT people the only shared LGBT agenda is not wanting to get murdered.

nothing wrong with it tbh

oh I agree, but I think we have a lot of LGBT people on this board and they may want to talk to each other without being spammed "idpol" repeatedly

This is what we want.
The problem is people are still working on suppressing us, this means that we need to actively consider our own self interest collectively. Erasing that unity is allowing a high amount of division that will only result in the attempted erasing of the reality of these people's lives. I agree with your long-term goal but you need to realize that assimilation is not the same as liberation.

We frequently have threads about sex. Nobody, except for a few tankies, make a fuss when people mention being gay or bi.

It's a dilemma really. You don't want gay to be a separate identity, but right wingers treat it as such and sometimes you have to play along with their game.

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Then you get into the position where you simultaneously find yourself arguing for what seems to be contradictory points, but aren't because of their placement on a time scale, and bringing things up exclusively to counter other things and such.

You're seriously denying gender discrimination is a thing because gender isn't a thing?
You really think people can't be influenced by spooks?

So once revolution begins prisons are just disappearing because for some reason in a time of violent uprising and turmoil they are needed anymore? Do you just want to kill eve..
Nevermind. Have fun digging mass graves then. "I just wanted to overcome systems of oppression!"

Also I never got the liberal outrage about labor camps. It's totally fine in most countries to have prison labor, what is the fucking difference to a labor camp. Seems like it's just the terminology people get upset about.

I don't even know what to say to that.

There is a very bourgeois strain of the LGBT identity, which you shouldn't lump in with homosexuality as a sexual deviation. Clearly you are the one who has problems to properly distinguish chains for arguments, or you're just deliberately intellectually dishonest.

Its pretty clear that you are from r/socialism now. No, my friend, a rich gay black person is still more muh privileged than a poor white person.

See above. Your relation to the means of production is what defines your muh privilege, not as what you identity with.

Absolutely. Why do you conclude I'd object to that? The superstructure is clearly a legitimation for the base - although race hasn't been used for imperialism since a long time now.

The LGBT march in my city got organized by Coca-Cola. Is this a right-wing conspiracy?

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Yes you are.

Also I never said this. This is a lie you made up to deny this fact.
You will never experience discrimination based on you being black/gay/a woman. How could you possibly deny this?

or, that I would claim a rich black man is worse off than a poor white man, that is the lie, that I would say something like that.

So you would let people just rot in a cell? Not trying to resocialize them through work which is at least beneficial to society and planishes the cost of running a prison?

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So because I can't experience something means I can't talk about it? You're using "privilege" as a means to shut people up, but this is just an ad hominem.

Let me put it to you this way, on big "TO DO" list of shit we need to get accomplished as real leftists (at this point you've failed to convince me you aren't an /r/socialism transplant) Gender Discrimination gets written in somewhere around "Cups that never spill", and "untangleable cords". One you end class struggle, the issues you're speaking of (which is highly based in reactionary bullshit to begin with) goes away. Until then you can continue to tow the idpol foot-soldier line, Internet arguments, and screaming at a rally about oppression in full BDSM gear :^)

Again explain to me what's the difference between a prison and a labor camp besides terminology

I never said that either. Keep lying to defend your reactionary nonsense.

I AM OBVIOUSLY AGAINST BOTH.

First you talk about how you don't want gays to even adopt children, then you use a Jerry Falwell-esque term like "the Gay Agenda", and now you're posting a Holla Forums favorite of a kid dancing that's supposedly a prime example of extreme fun.

Please, tell us again how you're opposed to LGBT not because you think they're deeegenerates, but only because it's dirty idpol and displaces class consciousness.

For a so-called anti-imperialist, you sure do revel in imperialist tropes and chauvinism.

Firstly, I've been here longer than you.
Secondly, you continue to say gender discrimination is a thing. I'm not sure how fucking retarded you have to be to deny that sexism fucking exists on fucking Holla Forums, but this is fucking Holla Forums, just go to any other board and you'll get a big steamy ass to lick all the sexists posts out of you want. How can you be so delusional? How? How is that possible?

Is not a thing.*

You haven't actually said anything substantial. All you do is going on about my skin color. How am I supposed to figure out what you mean when you refuse to actually deliver any actual arguments? Give me a concrete example where you think people of certain identities get systematically discriminated against so we can talk about it. Hard mode: Give me a reason why I should care about this very specific, rare identity and not also about all the other hundreds of identities people have.

corporations co-opt everything regardless of context. Are you going to become a racist now because corporations celebrate black history month?

lmao no
That's a lie.
This is also a lie.
Police. United States of America.
How about caring about everyone in the lower classes, instead of just your own identity, you stupid cunt sucker?

Weird, maybe you shouldn't have introduced your own racial anxiety into the thread.

You showed your part in the second hard. Hint: it doesn't work like this. You can't say "show me evidence X is being discriminated against" and then basically say "I really don't care if they are, anyway"

lol meant to say you showed your hand in the second part

The police is an instrument of oppression of the working class, not to oppress a certain identity. It's rather that the material conditions (e.g blacks being overwhelmingly in worse economic conditions) fuel racist bias amongst the enforcers of the economic relations of capitalism. Racism isn't institutional anymore, it's a side-effect of the superstructure which you can not effectively fight as long as the economic relations which presuppose said superstructure prevail. If you made every policemen black, it would not change anything, rather the superstructural expressions of the material base would merely take on a different form. Liberal IdPol like BLM does nothing but fighting for a merely different face of capitalist oppression and exploitation. I do not support flavors of capitalism more advantageous to my identity, but rather want to abolish the current state of things alltogether. Identity politics is rather a legitimation for the capitalist system, same as Social Democracy (social imperialism), part of the spectacle, and if it does anything it enforces the conditions of our own existence.

No shit man, that's called class consciousness. All the identities and the misfortunes that they could face (yes that can include white rednecks as well) is a result of capitalism. Have you actually read stuff about Dialectical Materialism?

I never did that shitcunt. I responded to the Anarchkiddies "lmao white persecution complex" which in hindsight I shouldn't have, cause that was top quality bait.

GET THE FUCK OFF OF MY BOARD REDDIT

That would be a fine post coming from someone who hasn't already outed himself as a homophobe

Labelling someone with x-phobia because I'm critical towards some aspects of their movement isn't really a sufficient way to make a point tbh

Especially since LGBT politics make up an unproportional high amount of leftist politics, which doesn't represent their ratio amongst the working class at all.

Why would I continue to read your post when you're so blatantly incapable of not lying is beyond me.

>>>Holla Forums
I've never been to reddit.

Calling them a "bourgeois identity" is not being critical of some aspects of their movement. Stop backpedaling faggot.

Nononononono, just ban everything related to LGBTBBQ, for and against! If you want to talk about idpol, go to Reddit or anywhere else. Everything is a safe space for idpol outside of Holla Forums now, and nowhere is there a place left like this. This is a class warfare board for a reason! Why do people even come here to talk about it?
If a newfag comes to this board with the same anti-idpol stances as most of us and sees this thread on the front page, they're going to just leave. Do the mods realize how damaging this is? This is the end of Holla Forums ffs. We made it all these years without an "LGBT general" thread, we can continue to do so. Jesus fucking christ! Think!

This post is idpol.

The way I see it the LGBT movement operates with the principles of Intersectionality which I'm critical towards because I think it's bourgeois.

I've met plenty of gay people who are mostly identifying by their sexual identity, and who are bourgeois and reactionary as fuck. Those are the ones mostly invested in the whole LGBT crap. I also don't like the anti-Muslim sentiment currently going through the gay community.

Meanwhile the few working class gays I've met tend to not primarily flamboyantly identify themselves as part of a gay community, but are pretty grounded in their views.

Following your ideology towards its logical conclusions isn't lying. You've been proven yourself unable to portray your stance coherently, so stop being so buttflustered about it. You're clearly not a prime example of intellectual dishonesty.

Making things up is though.

Seriously? Are you fucking kidding me? No, you fucking Reddit faggot, that is the only stance which is anti-idpol! You are literally Reddit, just reading what else is posted in this thread. You need to leave. Now.

xd

This thread was a mistake.

nice logic

I didn't make things up, I tried to display the inconsistencies in your anti-marxist approach. You had multiple chances to correct me and explain to me how this was not what you wanted (as I have) but all you had was a massive triggerfest, cherrypicking some quotes from me to sperg out about it, claiming I'm a conservative and what-not. I've think the reason why the most of the board is anti-IdPol (although not so sure anymore) is because the flaws of an IdPol based radical left have been pointed out in hundreds of debates and articles before, and the post-modern left hasn't come up with a single good rebuttal for it - and neither did you. You even blatantly stated to deliberately refusing to read a longer post.

WHY DO YOU HAVE SUCH A MASSIVE VICTIM COMPLEX? WHY DO YOU FEEL LIKE POINTING OUT AN OBVIOUS FACT IS "OPPRESSING" THE POOR WHITES?

Should we also cycle a thread talking about white identity? Come on…

You did make things up and you continue to make things up. Maoism, is anti-marxist.

what are you talking about? in that sense it's a massive success. the one bait thread to rule them all.

That's totally what I said. What an accurate representation of the debate in this thread.

At this point you should swim into a marine propeller instead of posting. Or grow up, because I seriously believe you are underage.

I just saw
wew lad

OKAY FUCKER. I'LL GO BACK AND QUOTE THE POSTS.

Anyways now to where you really did say that.

You're a special kind of blind, like holy shit. Even the Reddit namefag Afroplasm who posted with the black nationalist flag had more self awareness in his ineptitude than you. A fucking Holla Forumsack who's half Mexican most likely has more self awareness about the futility of his situation than you, please stop.

YOU DUMB HORSE FUCKER READ THESE FUCKING POSTS AND THEN KILL YOURSELF.

IF THAT IS NOT A VICTIM COMPLEX THEN NOTHING IS.

I know what you want, and why you came here goon-sama, I'm not stupid. You are asking us to knowledge "white muh privilege", just say it so I can tell you to fuck off, and that the proletariat has no race, nor gender.

Althusser is based though

You gotta calm down now. If you are getting so overly emotional over a topic like that it's best to disconnect from the internet for a while and do something completely different. Imageboards do not recognize your personal involvement, we are all anonymous here.

Never been to SA either you paranoid faggots.

lol

it really was, but it's anchored now

The "Maoist" still hasn't explained why he uses incredibly reactionary rhetoric like the Gay Agenda and has memorized anti-gay stats, but don't worry, he's just worried it will harm the revolution, comrade!

I actually didn't know what I said was so ultimately stained as right-wing rethoric. I don't listen to alt-right podcasts all day and neither is English my mother language. Oh well. I don't really give a fuck about the form in which something is delivered. Don't shot the messenger. Learn to handle imageboard culture if you are new to it.

well, now you know. In my country, only raging Christian fundies talk like that

What a wast of trip dubs on a butt hurt white male in denial post, sad.

Not me btw

homosexuality is counter revolutionary comrade

Friend.
This image also implies that having lots of sex, and having no sex, are both bad.

And I sincerely doubt you mean it because christian communist posters usually post book links when being serious.
So I'm just saying, it's funny that the image implies there's a middle ground of how much sex is the right amount.

It implies eating poo, drinking semen etc is bad which is more prevalent in counter revolutionary gay cells

The image links scientific studies etc that's enough reading comrade.

Drinking semen is prevalent literally everywhere though.

You can go through source by source and find out it's research done without any scientific methodology being applied and purely because of the interest of a few religious nuts who want to just prove their justifications of being bigots towards lgbt.

Fuck off back to Holla Forums

>>>Holla Forums

apart from the fact scientific method is applied,

the advancement of the homosexual agenda fosters mental and physical ailment that embed themselves within the workers' liberational movement as counter revolutionary measure to benefit themselves personally and advance idpol

At least with monetary incentive the study needs to be objective if you're going to make policy regarding it (otherwise it's useless).

Both sides had a clear goal with their funding

OK, let me put it this way, goon:
I DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THESE IDENTITIES. I DON'T WANT TO FUCKING TALK ABOUT THEM, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT CLASS AND OTHER MATERIALIST CONCEPTS
Understand now, babby?

You're the one who opened the thread you dumb faggot. It's not my fault you did that, it's yours. You clearly do care. They clearly upset you somehow.
Make up your minds you fucking dorks.

Also it's pretty immature to ignore the full relationship the base has with the superstructure just because it's too hard for you but okay.

A certain degree of IDPOL's required, certain IDPOL cells i.e LGBT are counter revolutionary.

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