Your father, leftypol, let's talk about him

That sounds sad. Please keep loving him.

I can see a pattern of class cucked fathers here

Muslim isn't a race.
It is a cancerous violent cult

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And a patterns of fairly wealthy fathers.

My father is a petit bourgeois capitalist who does work for big multinationals often with his company. Very reactionary, dedicates his life to capital and leads a shit, decadent life as a result. It is probably a good thing I lived with my mother most of my childhood, lest I might have turned out being a total dumbass.

Has a good few left leaning and anti-government tendencies (working shit jobs your entire life and getting a whole lot more trouble from law enforcement than you deserve will do that to you) but when it comes to it he still gets stuck on liberal-tier aversion to violence or to radical change.

My uncle's pretty class conscious though, even if he did buy into racial idpol a bit.

Classcucked typical boomer liberal, mad that Hillary isn't president. So pretty fucking average for someone like me.

nice sample

He's a socialist

He didn't teach me much about Marx and the gang but he's voted for Communist (later democratic socialist) Party all his life, talks shit about bourgs and taught me the importance of standing up to porky in the work place.

Why shouldn't someone concern themselves primarily with the interests of their own people?

That's what all commies do. Caring about the interests of the working class - our people.

my dad was a union man and an irish republican so yeah he pretty much shaped me into a socialist. though he's a drunken wreck these days and i don't talk to him

He's Socialist af but as soon as it comes to communism he fluctuates and refuses to agree that the Soviet Union was communist in any shape or form

He does think le true communism meme would be fantastic if it was implemented properly but he will outright refuse to listen to anything along the lines of Marxist-Leninist thought

Smart guy.

My dad is a low-key anarchist, but he was basically pushed out of academia in the years following 9/11 because of it and basically gave up on politics. He led me in the right direction and taught me important things & values. I do wish he'd somehow gotten me involved in radical groups and the likes but I think that is more of a side effect of being in burgerstan than anything else.
I wished I lived in a smaller, less classcucked country tbh

I don't think that most of the other working class feel the same way.
I agree that the rich should be executed, but also I seriously doubt that, if given the opportunity, other cultures wouldn't try to take any resources that my culture had.

your dad sounds great

Who here /deadbeatdad/

He is, I'm not tankie btw I'm just stating he's very liberal/democratic in his viewpoints of how Communism should be implemented, I generally agree with him on 99.9% of things just he won't find any common ground on radical ideologies like anarchism or marxist-leninism

We've agreed on things like communalism and murray bookchin tho

you've taken a wrong turn, back to Holla Forums with you.

yeah dude. mine left when i was 14 and hired a mens rights lawyer to get child support and alimony to the lowest level possible to the point where we couldn't afford suitable housing or education

If he didn't want to pay your bitch mother money why didn't he just take custody of you?

because he didn't really give a damn about raising us. he was alright until i was about 8 and then he would just sit in front of the tv drinking all night and never spoke to us anymore

My old boomer dad has no concept of theory, but he wants the people who control the world to die. He has no understanding of politics and is not particularly inclined to learn. I think he just wants revenge for the reservation, for the Vietnam War, and for the way that the military treated him and his one or two surviving friends afterward.

My father taught me to sing "Bella Ciao" and other partisan songs. He called me Tito as a compliment, watches Noam Chomsky and complains about the effects of capitalism (especially in ex-Yugoslavia, since that's where we're from). Sadly he doesn't think communism will come back.

I laugh at all the others in the thread.

additionally the way he left was insane. i woke up one morning like usual and checked my inbox and he'd sent me an email saying he didnt love my mother anymore and was leaving. that was the first contact i had with him in over a year and it took him over a week to respond to my reply. i haven't seen him since and i guess he moved to london to be with his new wife

Dad's a union Fencer pretty apolitical a
Side from hating trump. He kinda stopped caring about me during middle school
and we haven't seriously had a conversation in 3 years

We need to stress this point it's important. We have much more in common with a working person from another culture/race than any capitalist the same color.

Yeah, I remember being in high school and not being able to relate to rich white kids but being able to talk to most working class kids about shitty jobs and stealing shit.

questa mattina

Nice try, CIA

My dad used to be more somewhat radical, he called himself a socialist and worked for an organization bringing Nicaraguan refugees over during the Contra War. He is a regular liberal now, I had to introduce the idea that the Clintons were bad to him.

My dad is a Fox News and talk radio poisoned neocon. Like all of the "Never Trump" neocons, he agrees with most of his policies, but doesn't like his lack of decorum. To get an idea of how boring of a neocon is, he was a big Kasich supporter during the Republican primaries.

As dumb as my dad is politically, he has taught me a lot of useful skills. He is a big DIY guy and has taught me a lot to become more self-sufficient. These are skills everyone should learn and leftist groups should be learning them, so that they can do work in their communities. Leftist groups should be in lower income neighborhoods fixing appliances, windows, etc. A good example would be that recent story of the anarchists filling pot holes in their community.

better than usual for a burger

I was never talking about race, and I was always talking about culture.
Children that are raised in the same economic conditions and environment are of course going to have more in common with each other.

Nah, fuck that.
Everyone should be in their OWN neighbourhood fixing shit.
And if you have so much money your neighbourhood isn't shit give all your money away and move into a shitty neighbourhood.

Same here except he put huge electric bills in my name that I found out about years later after kicking me out. Haven't spoke to him in over ten years but last I heard from my sister he got diabetes after being a fitness nut and I laughed.

My dad's dead lol. Never knew him, don't really care.

He's based.
He was anarchist in his youth, beating cops with crowbars at days, arguing for accelerationism at nights…
After an Xth protest turned brutal, was disgusted by interaction with liberals (violence nevar the answer maaaan) and concluded that people needed to be saved against themselves.
But religious educaiton in his youth still had a footprint on him and prevented him to go full RAF. So he stopped activism.
Present days he's voting for trotskysts candidates for the lulz.

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Sometimes violence is the answer, but you need to kill the people in power.
French Revolution, not just killing random soldiers.

Uneducated racist with lutheran work ethic. So class cucked, of course. Still, he's starting to see the red dawn after he was treated like shit by his bosses, and everything I bitch and moan about turns out to be true.

My father is a typical "commies r bad" while also saying "automation is going to destroy all the jobs, we need to collectivise the means of production, corporations are against the interest of the people".

Fucking propaganda man.

w-what's your point?

My father was born in the USSR

youtube.com/watch?v=BLH1x_SGAL4

My father became a Dominionist shortly after marrying my mother. He fucked off to his far right bible study sessions while my mom did all the work (as was only right under his new belief system). They finally divorced when I was a kid. He doesn't pay child support and complains about how things don't last as long as they used to because the government banned lead paint and about how much it's costing his department at work now that he can't dump waste straight into in the river anymore.

What he means is "authoritarian governments cause mass suffering and fucking bullshit and everyone calling themselves communists are always fucking authoritarian"

youtube.com/watch?v=JIdPdBF85DU

Back when he was getting his political science degree in the 1980s, he was apparently a self proclaimed neocon that volunteered for the Reagan and Bush campaigns and spouted "small government" rhetoric. Since then, he's pretty much impossible to classify. He supports protectionism for US jobs, says that "I like Trump's policies, I just could never trust Trump", despises Hillary but "loves Kaysitch" (mispronunciation showing how little he's invested in him). You can convince him of pretty far reaching SocDem policies, all the way up to a Marcora law to promote worker coops, as long as you frame the language as "reasonable" and opposed to "those nutjobs".

At first it was evening
And then it was me
Yesterday a word on the wind
Today – the earth

On an old cemetery
Where enemies rose from the dead
I understood something
As I started the day from the left foot

He-eey-eey-eey,
Born in the USSR
He-eey-eey-eey,
Born in the USSR

Not a second without fighting
We believe in life and death
Into the eyes of your dog
We aren’t afraid to stare

Today is victory
Understand and forgive
There is nothing left for us
But we’ve got something to carry

He-eey-eey-eey,
Born in the USSR
He-eey-eey-eey,
Born in the USSR

You are – the farther the steeper
You are almost sunset
Hello, ancient Rus,
I’m your nervous brother!

What will hope give us?
What will beauty save?
Yesterday you were the chief
(Of the Empire)
And today you are an orphan

He-eey-eey-eey,
Born in the USSR
He-eey-eey-eey,
Born in the USSR

What the fuck is any of this supposed to mean?

use your brain you moron

I legit dont get the symbolism. Is it USSR nostalgia
t. a moron appearently

please respond

The USSR sucked?

youtube.com/watch?v=KUwjNBjqR-c

He was a bourgeoisie that lost all his money in a economic depression. Now hes an accountant in a medical company and is basically a hippie that wears a suit. We smoke weed together and talk about politics and economics when i visit him. Hes more centrist than leftist because of his past.

I have three fathers I guess.
My biological one, he did a shitton of meth and lost custody, is currently well off with 5 million, worked for most of it, is investing it now. I live with him. Love him a lot, more than he knows, he's able to tolerate a lot of my bullshit and it's nice.
My adoptive father is an abusive asshat. Doctor who lost his savings investing all he built up into some Chinese scam. Hate him a lot. did a lot of shitty things to me and my mom.
My step dad is great, conservative spiritual man. Loves westerns, is a family man. Respect him a lot and is self employed. love him to death too. Sadly a lot of fucked up shit has been happening with him. I wish I could be more comfortable talking politics with him more but he worships reagan, even though he really shouldn't. Never got the chance to talk about politics and still thinks socialism is le government snowplows meme. Would love to engage him honestly next time I see him.

My father is a working class classcuk, he supported the military junta even though it was their liberal ecomomic politics the cause that the meat packing factory where he worked closed, yet he still thinks that the military "saved" the country killing commies and peronistas (where from argentina) he doesn't knows much about politics or economics, he just repeats what he hears on t.v

Luckly my mother teach me some values she wasn't leftist or anything but she hated the cops, the military and the church, her grandmother came from spain in 1914, and i like to think that she was communist or anarchist, but there's no way to know

I'm the guy who posted the song. I will try to explain some parts. Also the translation that was posted isn't very good so that may add to the confusion.

Evening here means the old Russian Empire in it's final moments. "Me" is the USSR, the song is personifying the nation basically.

Actually should be "word and wind". Meaning yesterday there were only immaterial words and air but today the reality is solid as ground, symbolizing established foundations but also a certain loss of freedom

Should be "we've got something to finish carrying"

Should be just "and the farther the stronger/steeper". This is a Russian expression basically meaning the farther you go into something the higher the stakes get.
Meaning the USSR is almost over
USSR is the brother, nervous because it's about to join its older sibling in the dustbin of history

Should be obvious what this means. This song was written before the collapse but was changed slightly after. Basically a mix of nostalgia and fatalism.

Red Tory/centrist small businessman who fixes houses for a living. Born a total bourg (granddad was loaded at one point) but currently happiest when actually building things and swinging a hammer. Total shit-disturber in his spare time who never gives up when he thinks he's right. Actually quit a promising career as a bourg corporate dude because he likes actual work better.

Great guy, imo, and we have a good relationship.

Do you know much about their youths? I'm curious as to what produces these types of people.

He'd be a die-hard Holla Forums poster.

Not to mention all the abuse, to the point I can't even have my GF touch me while I'm sleeping or I'll freak and think he's going to be beating me, though I guess that's not relevant to this board. So to get back to the question OP asked, yes he did. Can't say he was totally responsible for my leftist views, but he sure as fuck pushed me towards them.

My real dad is a dick and I have not spoken a word to him in years.

I was raised by my granddad who was pretty tankie. He was super "anti-imperialist" and loved guys like Assad and Putin while absolutely despising western capitalist powers. He wasn't very educated so he didn't have access to much theory to really get a clearer idea of what's going on but given the resources available (the news and Irish republican books) he was about as class conscious as you could realistically be. After the recession every day for about 4 years straight he would wish for a revolution over dinner.

My stepdad is cool too. He's really educated and has read shitloads of theory. But he's also spooked by morality. He's an anarcho-pacifist basically.

He's one of those people that claims to be "Fiscally conservative, and socially liberal", and works himself to the bone. He might not have class consciousness, but he's genuinely a good guy. I'm a NEET, and it's painful to see somebody work from 5AM-5PM just to afford a small shitty apartment living paycheck to paycheck. I know the times coming for me to take the wageslave torch, it kind of feels like having a prison sentence hovering above your head.

It's their parents. My father was and while he's a bag of garbage, my grandmother was a terrible human being who totally fucked up being a parent.

The trick isn't to "try better with your kids" because you fucking won't. The trick is to not have any in the first place and be content that any self-destructive behaviors you have won't ruin the lives of others, and if it somehow works out that you have great kids with happy upbringings, it has nothing to do with who raised you.

Pic related.

Fucking based.

My Father is a genuinely good person and highly intelligent. He is relatively apolitical, but has a good understanding of how class dynamics and economics drive political policy as well as how much of a farce bourgeois democracy is.

I wouldn't say he is class cucked because well he is technically working class he is a professional and therefore has some stake in capitalism.

Like a lot of people here my parents are divorced and I can say that had some role in my political development largely because I feel that fighting about money destroyed my parents ability to be in the same room with each other post-divorce.

My dad is politically neutral, but he's classcucked as fuck. And that's really sad, especially considering how much his job has been overworking him lately. They're sending him on weeklong business trips to the point that he's only home a couple days at a time to see us. I've had several disagreements with him in the past, to put it lightly, so in regards to our outward relationship, I could care less how long he's away from home. But he's not only my dad, he's a human being, a member of the working class, classcucked or otherwise. And I can't help but feel sorry for him deep down inside over how badly he's being overworked. I think it's making him more miserable. Granted, he was always kind of a workaholic, but it just looks like he's feeling worse lately.

If only my Father's Day gift to him could be securing the means of production for all workers, him included.

I love you, dad. Even if I don't always show it.

Happy Father's Day, Holla Forums.

His dad was a piece of shit like him and walked out on his mom and left her to raise 3 kids on her own(My granny) while he played horndog and ended up living and mooching off his divorced sister.

I don't really associate with my dad's family either now.

My dad? Ah, who gives a fuck? Dude has severe mental issues, refused to take his mess, somehow had two affairs despite being more autistic than the average Holla Forumsack, and beat me regularly. Divorced my mom a decade ago. Now he's a super-religious hardcore traditionalist who won't spare a dime in tuition money despite making over twice what my mom does.

I don't really care about him anymore. Guy could off himself with a pump-action, I wouldn't give a fuck.

My father didn't teach me anything because he was a bipolar alcoholic and I didn't grew up with him, but he was a member of the Communist Party for a good part of his life.
Then he became jaded a la Schopenhauer and sort of waited for the death of his mother to commit suicide. He died of cancer before that though.
RIP dad, from the few moments I've spent with you, you seemed to be a good person deep inside.

Father is borderline porkie; technically petit-bourgeois due to getting a salary but otherwise fits the criteria.

He's actually more leftist than my mother; she's more of an idpol liberal while he is a socdem. Views taxation and social services as worth the while, donates a lot to charities but doesn't gloat about it since he feels it's a moral obligation.

Haven't confronted him directly about socialism but I suspect he would be okay with market socialism but would feel it's too unrealistic currently. However, he definitely is aware of the coming crisis with regards to automation since he is in the tech industry. I've no doubt he thinks anarchism and ML are retarded which I frankly wouldn't disagree with him on.

Even moderate Islamic attitudes are pretty bad today, even if they arose originally from actions committed by capitalists. The Hadith is pretty cancerous as well.

My dad is a ancient history prof, he buys into a lot of pomo shit and loves Foucault but also has some Marxist tendencies. As far as politics goes he's no classcuck, he's more of a socdem but he is definitely pro-labour/unions, taxation, welfare state etc. He also believes that capitalism will eventually collapse under its own contradictions, but that attempting to force it through revolution will cause more harm than good.

As far as our personal relationship goes it's pretty good, we get along really well and annoy the rest of the family with constant political/philosophical debates. Also do a lot of hunting together.

Respect. He basically won at life. Didn't even read the rest.

Try not caring so much then.

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You sound like me.

Did you grieve? Did you wish you had reached out to him? I've always wondered how I'll feel when my dad dies.

I know who he is and lived with him for a while, but he was neglectful/emotionally absent and I haven't spoken to him since I was 10, so I don't really know him.

He voted for Hillary in the general and Bernie in the primary
Grew up very poor in govt project housing and is pretty much an old left leaning liberal

Good show

I did grieve. He was found in a coma in a hotel in Changsha, and his Chinese "wife" never even saw him in the hospital. My uncle was finally contacted two weeks into his coma because he told the doctors after waking up briefly not to contact his family.

He beat my mother and I've always had a strained relationship with him and hadn't even seen him in 5-8 years. (before that I would see him once or twice a year) But I can't help but feel that if he was able to quit alcohol and get some treatment we could be friends. Oh well.

Took me to my first direct action in '04 to scream at the DNC for choosing Kerry.

Looking at pictures of him and my mom in their twenties is really bittersweet. They looked so happy.

Both my parents are comfortably employed by the state so they couldnt give less of a fuck about class struggle. I had to go out and experience that shit all by myself

My dad is a Reagan lover. He thinks he was the single greatest man in history. He hates Trump and he hates most unions. What's ironic is if it wasn't for unions his job would be a living death trap. He's a machinist.

Gonna repost this to save the OC.

tfw you hack someones computer just to make their disk drive open. everyone has a father, user.

mine died a few years ago, and i spent 3 years mourning like a traditional confuscian. he raised me on his own, we got along well except when it came to school. he was a little bit spooged ::︙-DD on the boomer bootstrap meme because he worked his way through college. i moved away soon after graduating, and he never moved out of the apartment, so he was paying extra every month for an unoccupied room. that's what killed him. really sudden cancer. i fucking hate work and rent. he was always stressed out about paying bills.
im glad we never had cable growing up because i didnt have to hear their opinions. he was a freethinker and had an artists mindset. im glad i grew up poor, i dispise luxury and seek knowledge. i really see him being in a better place, i cant imagine him seeing the world going to such shit.

My Dad's prole as fuck. I just spent Father's day drinking way too much alcohol and watching his favorite Westerns.

The former. He is a long time comrade.

For the record it was a Howard Hawks marathon, Red River, Rio Bravo, and El Dorodo. Good shit.

my dad owns. he's an old religious commie who loves beer barbeque and talking shit about boojies

My dad is basically stuck between my commie shilling and Alex Jonesism.
Anything I say about capitalism he somewhat agrees with but only insofar as he can fit it into his illuminati narative.
Very frustrating.

I would say my dad is a socdem and he votes Labor every Australian election but is pretty classcucked. He says communism is dumb and is impossible because "people are greedy and i don't want the government to rule my life" even when I explain that communism isn't when the gubbermint does stuff.

He's pretty mild mannered and quiet so it surprised me when I heard that he used to give speeches at union meetings and stuff. He understands how important the working class is and that nothing would exist without it and yet, even when I explain to him what socialism and communism actually are, he says it's stupid and idealistic and that what I read in my books doesn't actually correlate to the real world. I gave him my copy of the bread book in hopes that he might read it and gain some sort of basic understanding and consciousness or at least find it interesting and stimulating.

Get him this book ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520034914