What's more important to society? Freedom or security?

What's more important to society? Freedom or security?

Thicc qts over 5'6".

Memes tbh

Both are worse.

Being secure is a freedom, dumbass

The synthesis of leftist economic policies and right social policies

Security.
Can't have freedom until you're secure.

They aren't mutually exclusive. You can't have freedom without some sort of security, otherwise you'd be exploited 24/7.

Hence, probably security. You need to start somewhere.

This is what I though political philosophy was about when I was in elementary school.

I remember when saying this was a bannable offense. Good old times.

It's a false dichotomy.

Are you referring to the topic of the thread as a whole, or did you just come here to smugly tip your fedora and say nothing of value? Or both?

both

It's worse than a false dichotomy, it's an immaterial one.

All me.

All me

What is freedom?

Security is related to material conditions. That's why Switzerland has no gun violence despite having a higher ownership rate of firearms.

Freecurity

Security from whom.

The terrorists funded by the same government that "protects" you?

Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

This is the biggest pile of bullshit ever. Sacrificing liberty for security is most fundamental definition of "society".

If you want freedom. live in the woods.

what is freedom?
baby dont hurt me
dont hurt me no more

Spoken like a true gang member.

nice absolutes and false mutual exclusion faggot


a shortstack is fine too


no, I am Shitposticus!

Freedom is security and security is freedom. Utterly false dichotomy

Both are a lower priority than happiness/prosperity.

Security. For example, can one meaningfully be said to be free in the hellholes that are Syria or Iraq at the moment?

Freedom.

Security without freedom is dependent on hierarchy to maintain itself, and that hierarchy's interests will inevitably diverge from securing the people's safety as a whole in favor of securing their own power whenever the two conflict, ultimately becoming a parasitic elite as dangerous as any threat it was founded to stop.

Both are bourgeois

Why not both?
Now get the fuck off my property.
*cocks the shotgun*

Security is the basis of society, you can`t have freedom without it.
Read Hobbes.

that's the one about the Loch Ness monster isn’t it?

Define freedom

It's always cocks with you people. No wonder your logo is a snake.

Finally a good answer.

All others saying security make me sick, neoliberals regularly take away aspects of our freedom in the name of security because that's the only reason people are willing to sacrifice freedom for.

And look where it got us.

Freedom.

Top fucking answer.