Marx overrated?

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Sure beats those theorists that want to create workers capitalism, right proudhonfags?

Oh you thought intellectual property wasn't a spook? Well you're wrong. Why do you think people worship marx here? Its because we hate we steal religious idolization of figures. Its also why we stea- reform memes for our cause.

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Because his critique of political economy and his revival of materialism provide some of the best starting points for a proper social critique. The former is almost entirely unique to him, too; next to nobody has written more on the subject, and when most of his works were published nobody even bothered to take a second look at the utopians anymore. Add to this the fact that interpretation but also application of the the Marxist social critique are incredibly open to new conclusions and views and you today have virtually nobody respected on the left, communist or not, that doesn't at least borrow from Marx a little. This is fairly exceptional in Marx's case, although borrowing, adopting and modifying concepts always happens and enables new ideas.
Marx was the first to critique economism.

Marx redefined or came to understand communism from an angle that starts with the basic formations of capitalism from out which communism appears, rather than from a start that first looks at the social bads produced by the system of generalized commodity production (this was his redefinition of capitalism too btw) and concocting a blueprint for an alternative free of the bads rather than the internal contradictions breeding or even necessitating the bads.

Undoubtedly, and there will only be more.

He was intentionally "vague" about describing hypothetical societies because they could only be hypothetical. In fact, there's only a single passage in a single text in which he describes a scenario that would in its infancy represent a post-capitalism free of things basic to capitalism, and he did so only in order to write a critique about another model presented by the predecessors of social democracy.

He only made a judgement on the prospect of revolution: that the process would be authoritarian in its very nature regardless of what those intending to engaging in revolution were planning. I otherwise fail to see how labour notes are authoritarian or the (non-prescriptive) description of a dictatorship of the proletariat being another immanently authoritaria thing by prospect alone, simply because the class war of revolution would demand it.

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CIte your preferences, explain yourself, argue your case, et cetera. Your post is ironically much more nebulous than Gothakritik.

I was going to inb4 this pic and that Anarchism FAQ blogpost and I'm sad I only got 1/2 right now.

anarchist butthurt is the best tbh…
and Proudhon could have proposed whatever, he still didn't achieve anything close to that of Marx

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Yes.

He wrote very large tomes analyzing capitalism. While worthwhile, his conclusions varied and his predictions were wrong in some cases. This is not because capitalism is great or marx was lazy lmao, but rather because he couldn't forsee technology progressing as it did or ideological changes to preserve capitalism like fascism or socdem occuring and he didn't realize how capitalism would mutate into the service economy in the first world. This isn't grounds to completely dismiss Marx's work, but there needs to be some reexamination of capitalism.

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We all know that's not true

Stirner is overrated his philosophy isnt that great its just edgy

I remember there was a time when blackflag posters were generally pretty decent. what happened?

Marx never really gave a shit about Saint Max the Honeyed Cuckold before Engels bombarded him with letters like these while Marx was organizing the IWA: marxistsfr.org/archive/marx/works/1844/letters/44_11_19.htm. Marx literally didn't care or know about his publications without Engels trying to make him aware of them, which is ultimately what put him in the third chapter, behind the much more relevant Feuerbach and his materialism (Bauer was fairly irrelevant, too).

Also wew at this thread. It's as if a bunch of /anarcho/-type exiles decided to come shit this place up all at the same time in revenge but forgot that their pathetic trolling attempts can't cover up for their non-existent argument.

were you born this stupid or did you have to take lessons?

Marx is overrated because Marxist hate the thoughts of Utopian Socalism.

uhh… Lenin was an orthodox marxist. maybe you mean marx's original thought?

Max stirner is garbage.

I wonder why that would be……………

Marx might be overrated but the reason he's talked about is because he's basically the Newton of socialism. Even if some of his ideas were lacking and he wasn't the first leftist economist his methodology and analysis is the bedrock of everything that has come since and absolutely blew everything that came before out of the water.

If Marx was really that indifferent to Stirner then why was his "debunking" of Stirner longer than the book he was responding to and filled with ad hominem attacks

Isn't he usually considered next to Nietzsche, Freud and Darwin to be one of the central personalities of Modernity and demystification? In particular his critique of Ideology?

I thought Marx said he didn't invent any of these theories (denying he was a philosopher or a economists), but just that he brought them together in forms of critiques?