What is leftypol's take on cultural appropriation?

What is leftypol's take on cultural appropriation?

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Its liberal bullshit

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Culture is a spook.

spoogs are spoogs :DD, ebin

Cultural appropriation basically segregationist race science.

Cultural commodification is the problem.

I'm dead serious though, culture isn't something to be celebrated or accepted. I don't understand the constant bickering between Europeans about their culture.

define what you mean by it pls, I've heard it used to describe an overly-wide variety of things

Part of the reason why I am a brocialist. It's not something I care about, nor do I even think it's important.

Wrong.
Cultural appropriation is the only way to undermine a shitty ideology

The only way to make it irrelevant is to enjoy its aesthetic without following its principles. Pic related, it's Rammstein, an apolitical German band.

Watch: Slavoj Zizek's A Pervert's Guide to Ideology

Culture is determined by environment and how someone is raised. Language, for example, evolved from culture. English is basically Anglo, for example.


You can't erase culture as long as there are 2 different environments at any given point. Culture isn't nation wide either. Individual settlements, cities, states, have their own sub-culture, albeit often similar.

People bicker about culture for same reason people sometimes bicker about which movie they like. They're different but you can't really objectively determine which one is "better".

Contra actually has a good take on it. Kinda leans SJW but he present the case for why even if you're a full on SJW it's a bad fight most of the time
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Acceptance of private property is implicit in the concept of "cultural appropriation" (at least in the pejorative sense), as is a notion of intellectual property so far-reaching it would make the RIAA blush.

If you accept it, you're not a leftist.

Rammstein isn't apolitical. Pretty sure they have a number of political songs.

But you can erase culture, the Americas show us how you can create multiple anti-cultural spheres.

Sure thing, white boi.

you still get my point though

Cultural appropriation marginilises the identities of historically oppressed peoples and so should be avoided.

Native Americans, Latinx, Africans and other people of colour have had their cultures taken away from them on many occasions in the past. By comodifiying their culture white capitalist countries continue this cultural genocide.

Because non-whites are effectively excluded from the power structure of global capitalism, encouraging cultural nationalism among them is an ideal way to contribute to the downfall of the global bourgeoisie in addition to fighting racist misunderstandings.

The state of you

I'm into culturally appropriating anime girls.

I hate anglos but love Alice.

Alice is a pure anglo which is why Shinobu favours her.

SJW buzzword that doesn't really mean anything.

I guess it's the closest you can get here to a leaf.

capitalism's socially corrosive effects open up a space for emancipatory potential.
whining about "cultural appropriation" is just capitalism-with a-human-face’s tool to alleviate these novice effects, to castrate emancipatory projects

Cultures have always mixed since the dawn of time. An anglo person opening a burrito stand doesn't damage Mexican culture in the slightest- in fact it's a testament to its strength.

The recent "cultural appropriation" trend is peak liberalism, attempting to apply the bourgeois concept of "intellectual property" as widely as possible. Liberals say this is to defend the feelings of brown people but in reality it's just another way capitalism strengthens itself.

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you complete fucking retard

kill yourself

I'm thrilled when I see non-natives participate native culture, even in superficial ways. Wearing a war bonnet or sitting at a drum circle is no big deal to me. I'm always hoping that bits and pieces of native culture slip into the culture shared by all of us my country. I want it to have an impact on thought, fashion, language, etc.

I just don't like it when it is packaged together and sold as a commodity. Like sports mascots or having native symbols and imagery sold on t-shirts and shit.

Its just my bullshit 2 cents, others will have way different opinions from myself.

I think it's a reasonable complaint of marginalized people and something to point out as an effect of capitalism, being a sort of side effect of marketing always striving for something "exotic".

I can't imagine there'd be any similar phenomena in a communist society, certainly, some people's art might be ignorant about its source material but I would imagine a socialization that heavily pushes community values and hunger for understanding would make it a pretty rare thing.

The problem is commodification, not appropriation.

Commodification of culture alienates us from cultural significance the same way that commodification of labor alienates us from the significance of our labor. Culture is represented by reductive symbolism in the same way that labor becomes represented by money. Thus, the significance of that which itself is being represented is lost.

Cultural appropriation should be seen as a positive thing, as long as it is done in a matter that does not include commodification. It is fine to appropriate a positive aspect of a culture, as adopting aspects of other cultures is one of the ways that cultures grow and develop. It is not fine to appropriate one cultural artifact, use that artifact as a symbol for the culture as a whole, and then commodify that symbol.


Culture is a set of practices influenced by material conditions. Cultural boundaries are spooks, and certain aspects of culture such as morality and theology are spooks, but to discard all of culture as spooky is intellectually lazy.

Aight, better word, that's overall what I meant.

It's complete and utter bullshit, of course. It's a crypto-reactionary attack on cultural exchange.

But I think I had a good insight in a Holla Forums thread of all places, please tell me if I'm on to something or a complete retard. Let me copypaste:

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Quoting these from an article on theblaze though since the read is easier on my nerves.

Are they talking about what I think they are?
Are they suggesting what I think they're suggesting?


Holy shit, just now I'm realizing what prompted this cultural appropriation ban shit. Genes can be patented. It's an absolutely moronic thing but it's real, and they're trying to protect the genes of the local plants and animals, and possibly even themselves.

This retarded bill is a direct result of the capitalist greed that made genes patentable.

I've never thought about 'culture' as intellectual property and as extension private property

where can I read more?

It is hilarious and depressingly stupid at the same time which makes it a self-owning black pill that any discerning observer can derive from encountering liberals bitching about cultural appropriation. The Liberals seem to attract metaphysical parody, mockery and constant derision from Nature itself and I think when you really dig into how dumb and again amusingly nonsensical cultural appropriation is it is a kind of mind altering black pill unto itself, very good for breaking people out of SJW ideology death spirals.

Oh and Egyptians weren't black so its not appropriation for tanned whytes to portray them in film or artwork.

Good points. To me the problem is, once again, commodification and capitalism. I mean, what good is a culture if it can't share its' best elements with others? As long as cultural appropriation takes places with some respect for the cultural elements, I don't see a big issue.

The concept of cultural appropriation is liberal bullshit, you dim dum.

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