Catalonia plans October independence vote defying Spain

¿are you american?

No, I'm from Belgium.

it would be a blow to the EU
it would be a blow to monarchists and franquistas

belgium is "literally who" the country

Kek, savage.

Catalafag here, let me tell you that all this bullshit would be avoided if catalonia got it's fair share of tax money.

That us the real reason Catalonia wants the independence. Then there's the retards who'll say "catalonia existed befire spain" but that's just further excuse. It's all boils down to the money, and the fact that we're villified for defending our sheckels.

Imagine being in a private club where you pay the highest fee, and the rest of the members hate your guts, but won't let you go because they want your money.

It's not even a "nationalistic" it's just a bunch of bullshit from the local ruling class.The "hot issue that they have managed to elongate over the years, making it seem like a struggle of some sort, instead of a charade played by politicians of either side.

The fuckwads on one side demand independence "for the people" while being just as corrupt and porky as the rest.In exchange for keeping the charade and appearing as a boogieman, they get concessions, they grow richer and fatter.After sometime, it becomes obvious that Mr.PorkyA is only pandering to the gullible flag-waving cuntfaces.He gets replaced by MrPorkyB who promises to succeed in the imaginary struggle and becomes the next boogieman.

But hey, LARP to your heart's content.

So, it's like the Québécois.

Taxes: the reason behind every bourgeois revolution

Belgium was one of the very first European countries to become industrialized following Great Britain and was subsequently the stage for some of the earliest industrial actions, most notably the revolts of 1886 and the general strike of 1893 — which is considered by some historian to be the first of its kind. In fact, I was born and raised in Wallonia's former coal mining heartland, Charleroi — the epicenter of the country's de-industrialization and the closest you can get to an European Detroit.

Concerning nationalism, in the '60s the Flemish movement often mixed with left-wing politics and workers' struggles — mainly because they saw themselves as an oppressed minority not unlike Irish Catholics. The leader of the most powerful (anti-revisionist, Maoist) communist party since then, the Belgian Workers Party, first got involved in politics through the "Keep Leuven Flemish" protests. Nowadays, Flemish independentists are pretty much all right-wingers, mostly national-conservatives but including some bona fide fascists.

For the anecdote, Marx and Engels wrote the Communist Manifesto in the same Brussels building where the Belgian Labor Party was founded less than a decade later.

But please, go ahead with another one of your hilarious John Oliver-style "sick burns". :^)

lol no one will read that.

Thanks for the info, Belgianon.

Not everyone can be an illiterate like you.

This independence has so much to give for catalan socialism so im all for it.

I did, dumb American.

I don't know if this will have any positive side-effects, but I just like the idea of more countries.

Who cares, it will amount to nothing, Madrid is going to keep refusing.
Those fuckers have to get through their heads that if they want to be an indepdent country, they have to start a war. There's no other way.

Balkanization really is not something we want to happen. The more countries we have, the more the proletariat is divided by petty national divisions.

So will any of you fags go to kekalonia for old time's sake?

this tbh

If its liberal then i dont give a fuck

after yesterday's general election, I'm genuinely worried about Scotland's future

SNP vote seems to have collapsed

As far as LARP nations go, atleast catalans actually want it (and are consequently denied)

us jocks just cuck ourselves