Useful idiot nazis

Explain.

Nowadays it's impossible to overthrow any government, all the "overthrows" you see are staged.
The only exception's are of course governments overthrown by other governments

But do you have actual arguments?
Why are communists allowed if they are a "threat" to the bourgeoisie

Now imagine if you were a fascist and a member of a fascist party
You'd be reduced to dust and your ashes would be a reminder to others

Why the fuck are you crying to us? You're always trying to get commies banned so suck it up.

Arguing that nazis are a threat that needs to be silenced by the government while in the same breath saying it's impossible to overthrow a government because they're too strong. The cognitive dissonance must be painful.

We aren't allowed you faggot. I wrote above I can't work in any public institions. The only reason communists thought isn't outrightly persecuted it because we don't say autistic shit like "gas all subhumans". Turns out when you want to kill 50% of the earth's population you aren't very popular.

Why does nobody reply to this?
Hard to swallow the truth?

A fact remains a fact, if you knew what life was in Weimar Republic you'd knew that Hitler was a hero youtube.com/watch?v=Oph14OIUdQ0

Bullshit again, in Germany there was a gang if literal Nazis which killed dozens of immigrants and they were literally backed by the national secret service

Not true OP. Repression against leftie orgs is a lot more subtle, but it's very much real. It could be things like losing rental spaces for bullshit reasons to not being allowed in certain areas. It's not something you'd know of unless you're actually organized

I guess you're talking about Germany, who went from the most advanced country in the world to barbarism in a few years of fascism

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We actually like you
We think that you are future nazi material. Communism is the Not Socialist college, regardless of your race. Holla Forums is like 50% former communists (and I'm not talking about the hellhole of a Holla Forums on this website)

Nobdoy replies to this because it's crap. Nazi economy wasn't sustainable, it forced the whole country into a world war because if it didn't exploit foreign lands the currency would have imploded. And even the great infrastructure projects were already laid out in Weimar times.

It was the most barbaric country in the world, you shouldn't be allowed to post without basic history knowledge youtube.com/watch?v=Oph14OIUdQ0

I don't think you a very good grasp on reality user

Nat Socialist*

Cry somewhere else fag.

Have you visited the real Holla Forums?
The one that's outside of Holla Forums and 4chan?

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Pleb

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Yeah I do know about IRL nazis. Those who have been commies in their youth are extremely rare, most are stereotypical hooligan types or old assholes

Fascist ideology and organisations are backed by CIA, while left is subverted and afflicted with idpol

Communists aren't a threat now, and liberal """marxist""" intellectuals will never be. Thus they allow the latter while dismanteling the workers movement. I know that in the 70s the police spied extensively on the communist party in both Sweden and Norway, and The McCharthy period and cointelpro destroyed the little communist movement in the US. After years of destroying and pacifying thr movement, it is rightfully not percived as a threat anymore.

Well the inflation was due to porkies adventures during WWI. But yeah dadaism was cool

I was talking about a website
The skinheads are useful idiots

That's the same as saying Antifa is CIA therefore communists are stupid

because communists (ML) are, read bookchin or stirner or whatever

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at last they admit riding whaambulance is teh shits

Who are "they"?

…ze natziz

Fascists (alt-right, 4chan Holla Forums, Holla Forums Holla Forums) are too, but these are not all the fascists in the world.

Yeah, sure
Almost all nazis advocate for ethnic deportation and not ethnic genocide

Lots of times, the communist party was banned in the USA until the late 90's

Then hop on board because Stalin was for ethnic deportations too

We still have fascism now m8.

Otherwise you are dead right.

Fascism exemplifies both the good and bad of left wing collectivism.

Stalin is actually semi-liked among some fascists. There's a theory floating around that Stalin was secretly Hitler

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The fundamental difference between Bolshevism and Nazism is the revolutionary aspect.

Hitler wanted Germany to become socialist without having a revolution.

If they were genocide fans then they would praise the 6 million, it would be considered an achievement

That's why Germany had a revolution?
I don't get it

Hitler didn't want socialism at all.

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Corporatism is not socialism you stupid fuck

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Milosevic did nothing wrong.

germany could fight a war not because of the nazis, but because of weimar
nazis got a hold of a decent country
and then - the nazis destroyed germany, weimar germany

people built a country, for the nazis to destroy later

What's your ideology?
If the members of your ideology invade your capitalist country would you dislike your ideology from then on?

Where did you get this information from on Weimar? From what I've read it was hell on earth

Paul Joseph Watson is English and the last people to invade England were the Normans.

Isildur, destroy it!

The right can't organize for shit. Plus the far right people I've meet in real life are fucking retarded and couldn't get together without calling each other shills/jews/CIA , at least the liberals can do their little powwows. Not only that, they constantly cry “Cultural Marxism” when almost guaranteed that none of them have even read Marx much less can formulate what Marxism is, when he himself criticized petty bourgeoisie and conservative socialist thinking. Also looking back on Nazi history you will find out they were a bunch of esoteric tinfoil hatters

They managed organize the current leader of the Free world.

what you've read is propaganda

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Where do you even meet them?

1930s Germany.

And what you've read obviously isn't?
Do you have evidence to back up your claims?

We're reaching levels of irony that shouldn't be possible

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I voted for that man too. Accelerationist all the way

I live in the deep South and there was a bunch protests here recently about some Confederate monuments

Fuck off.

You're ignoring the ethnic cleansing, famine and reprisals, bud.

That doesnt disprove what I said about Hitler wanting to achieve socialism without a revolution.
We can read mein kampf and see that its true.

All your evidence proves is maybe he didnt achieve what he wanted.

Could the Nazis at least be consistent?

If you think about it, without left wing collectivism, they couldnt have rounded up the jews or anything.

I think you may have a bit of hubris right now. While redditfags played a role the major cause was dems running a neoliberal hag promising everything to stay the same when "change" is what americans have been voting for the previous two elections

I forgot when the FBI gave Fred Hampton a hug

stop

I'm not
Now imagine that the members of your ideology do that
Yeah, of course

Actions of people that are members of an ideology don't represent the ideology
If a communist raped a kid once that doesn't mean that all communists are pedophiles. You're using the same analogy with Hitler, every single crime that the Nazis commited is somehow a feature of the ideology.

You sure you're quoting the right man?

I forgot when they killed all the communists and the fact that its illegal to be a communist in several countries.

My point was that you idiots wonder why people don't like you. I said it might have to do something with invading all of Europe and killing a bunch of people.
This doesn't matter, if people see it that way then you shouldn't be surprised when they don't like you.

It's funny when the far-right thinks they're winning despite not being able to point to a single relevant public figure capable of actually furthering their goals. They need to latch onto neoconservative "nationalists" like Trump and Theresa May and other worthless cucks, they pretend leaders like Trump wouldn't spit in the average Holla Forumsyp's face for being a Nazi, they are delusional.

Meanwhile there are literal socialists holding office in Europe and there is a socialist party in the top 5 parties of almost every European country. Even in the USA Bernie nearly beat Hillary and would have probably have beaten Trump, things are on the upswing for the left everywhere besides the USA (not really a big surprise).

Double standards at work. Did I personally invade Europe and kill jews?

We're not winning
You don't have public figures as well, Zizek is as CIA as David Duke is FBI
Trumpcucks are the laughing stock, not even 4chan tolerates them, they are only in 8pol and aut-right places
"literal capitalists virtue signalling socialism holding office in Europe"
Talk about being delusional
Bernie is a joke, he's as communist as Trump is nazi, if he got elected he would act like a neocon, everyone acts like a neocon in office. If Bernie did a single good in office he would be dead the day after

That is so fucking dumb I didn't even read the rest of your post.

One has state support and sympathizers in academia, and media; the other doesn't. McCarthy was right.

Yeah but we got the Bannon lmfao

Dadaism is shit.

He is constantly getting cucked by Kushner and Ivanka. You don't really have him anymore, Trump will try to find a way to diminish Bannon's power even more

Don't mention Poland who is refusing to accept rapefugges and pissing off commies.

Are you fucking retarded? I just said it doesn't matter that the actions of individuals shouldn't have impact on an entire ideology. People don't give a shit that you didn't PERSONALLY kill Jews. Your ideological predecessors did. So blame your precious white race for double standards, not me.

The refugee crisis itself is a result of capitalist neocolonialism and Israel, what goes around comes around. If you didn't want refugees you shouldn't have been fucking around in the Middle East.

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the patriarchy doesn't exist, fucking moron

Much of the abstract trash in circulation in the art world today was created under capitalism and sold for millions of dollars, some were even used to launder money, the CIA was also involved in the art scenes of the Cold War in the USA, providing direct support to shitty artists to produce splatters of paint and shit on a canvas to use as a cultural "weapon" against the USSR. The entire cancer that is the modern-day art scene is a direct result of capitalism.

i think the selfsuck sculpture is a much better piece of art tbh

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You do realize most of the refugees aren't from conflict zones?

I like how he says that he spent "DAYS" making it, like somehow wasting a lot of time doing stupid bullshit is ought to make it more valuable.

user, the class war is a conflict…

The art style was popularized by leftists like Picasso.

vimeo.com/101804860

inb4 the ltv bait reply.

Joggles the noggles.

What is the common phrase "The holocaust didn't happen but it should have" that nazis like to spout. Seems like being a fan of genocide to me.

If you honestly can't respect the aesthetics of Picasso's work then you are a total pleb and people will make fun of you IRL for being such a pleb. Picasso is a universe away from some college slut painting a self-portrait with period blood.

Game of Thrones is another fictitious conflict. I don't see people fleeing from that.

Nice one.

Doesn't matter. No one does what "should" be done.
Saudi-Arabia doesn't take refugees (compared to what Europe is doing atleast), Israel doesn't take refugees, etc.

Whenever non-western country X destabilizes/destroys non-western country Y, the people of X don't automatically accept to be ethnically replaced or subjected to a crime wave by "refugees" from Y. The people of X do what is best for them, or atleast they don't sacrifice their country and people because of X guilt.
Seems you're under the false belief that non-western "PoC" are all living peacefully together and it's only the ebul wyatt man (now operating as neo-liberals/cons) who's behind bad stuff.

It's a bad argument for why westerners should accept the current situation wrt immigration and "refugees", and one that wouldn't fly were it not for white guilt. Not that I agree with catastrophic neo-con/lib foreign policy.

lel Marxism is so fucking safe

You're all a fucking joke might as well feel proud of not being scared to admit you like pizza and beer.

So much for the revolutionary left!

Art can be both, but please, stay mad.

The post I was responding to was talking about the right in general not leddit. Not sure where you got that from?

Otherwise that is a fair assessment. I'll wait for the next election cycle when Hillary mysteriously gets nominated again before I will ramp my hubris back up to maximum.

That's what I was implying, retard. Stay mad.

Wow, how did this guy even graduate while having this level of "creativity". Not defending the cocksucking sculpture though but i would still give it more points than his generic fantasy garbage.

Acknowledging the six gorillion would shatter your victim complex.
The Nazi cries out as he hits you.

He could potentially get a job making props for fantasy movies or something where they tell him exactly what to scuplt.
Im not sure what the market would be for sucking your own dick sculptures.

You mean run of the mill neocons and neolibs?
Trump already sold them out ("I am a nationalist and a globalist" :^). As usual neo-fascists and nationalists are merely treated as the useful idiots they are, and then discarded. (See Jobbik in Hungary, Liberal Democrats in Russia, Grey Wolves in Turkey, etc.)

Kys

Teachers can be fired if people discover they are commies in some states.
Decades of red scare propaganda made most people fear and hate commies.
Your arguments are invalid.

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Liberal elites? Pomo academics?

Hang on dont we punch the nazis?

I've never read any epics, or legends about a dude sucking his own dick.

imagine being this dumb
yes, I'm talking about you, fuccboy

bahaha

Gitlow v. New York faggot.

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What are you talking about? Mein Kampf is legal in my country and it's available on every public library…which means my taxes payed for it.

The only reason they do that is because being in favor of genocide is bad press.

They'll get there don't worry.

Nazis have never been a serious threat to different members of the bourgeoisie since their defeat in WW2. Socialist movements have preceded fascism and as such have more institutions than Nazis, but everything falls short to explicitly capitalist institutions. Of course Nazis like to nitpick the odd socialist publishing company or old philosophy professor, but nobody care about the Cato Institute and such.

realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/hitlers-finances-and-the-myth-of-nazi-anti-usury-activism/

realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2014/01/21/hitlers-finances-schacht-in-his-own-words/

Most women were unemployed and discouraged from seeking employment. Jobless young adults were forced into compulsory service for labor armies and not recorded in unemployment statistics. At one point, the use of forced labor was so pervasive that one out of five workers in service of Germany was in fact a slave. And that says nothing about Jews who were forced out of their position which could then be assumed by "pure Aryans". Besides, let's not forget that most gains in employment were military-related and therefore tied to an unsustainable bubble as well as, of course, a disastrous war that left most of Europe in rubble.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Kill yourself.

/r/socialism is showing

Where is your evidence

The worst meme

You're living in a good country then

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The same argument over and over again. It's like you guys just want things to be the way you want to be.
You never even considered the possibilty of looking at the issue from the nazi side, right? You don't even want a discussion, you just want a story that fits your bias.

When was the last time you heard a respected academic defend Stalin or claim the Holodomor didn't happen? Or praise Mao and claim the Cultural Revolution was a good thing? That's what I though.

If Marxists are (sometimes) respected among academics and Nazis aren't, this *might* have to do with the former not calling for the wholesale murder of millions. And also not being brainless hooligans.

Did you draw a picture in paint because there are exactly 0 photos and 0 possibility of this happening in real life?

Respected academics are bourgeoisie puppets

Of course they don't, because No True Communist™…

Well, you haven't actually refuted the argument, have you?

"Uwaaah! My feewings!"

You made a claim. This claim was wrong, so I refuted it. You're the one unwilling to engage in meaningful conversation right now.

They don't because they reject Stalin's and Mao's worldview and policies. Nazis, on the other hand, still worship Hitler like he's some sort of earthly messiah.

So what is the Nazi side then?

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The Nazi side is that Germany had such a huge growth that was able to progress from a backwater hellhole to an empire that conquered the most relevant continent in a few years without even having nukes.

see

Here's more proof disproving their """"scientific advancements""""

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Physik

"I'm a complete ignoramus but I somehow single-handedly resolved the broad ontological interrogation at the core of art through memes."

At least try to pretend you read the Wikipedia entry for "history of art" or something, for God's sake.

My God is that embarrassing. Not only did he fail to grasp one of the most essential principles of visual representation — images are more than just what they depict — but he also unironically wasted his time carving a dragon. Is this guy 13?

Before reading an article you should look at the sources
There are 5 sources and all of them are trash, one is fucking wikipedia. I don't know why you would trust this garbage

This is some poor bait
I know that you also intentionally did reddit spacing to trigger me more, but like I said, really poor bait.

any particular reason you boobs are bumping this shit?

Are you kidding me? All of what I mentioned is common knowledge among historians and can easily be checked over the Internet.

Well, you made the claim so… yeah? What a fucking mong.

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1) They want intelligent discussion
2) r/socialism doesn't know how not to bump a thread while making a post

Continue, you're good at this

I'm done with you

I can't believe someone could be such an unashamed intellectual coward. This is beyond pathetic.

Yes, it is. That's how the burden of proof works. You bust in somewhere, make a grandiose claim and then expect us to do the searching for you? Fuck you mate, either back your posts with some serious theory and/or data or fuck off back to whatever cesspit you came from.

It's your claims, you're claiming that economic growth during Hitler wasn't insane even though that's the historical consensus since the Weimar Republic was Zimbabwe tier in terms of inflation

No point in trying there, fam. Their ideology is is a criticism of society from a secular talmudic viewpoint.

Leftists care a lot more about sources than the right.

You literally claim that Hitler was backed by jewish bankers and that's why Germany was so successful
You make laugh of Holla Forums when they say that everything is a jewish meme and here you make a claim that WW2 was a carefully planned jewish meme that was always under control

You got that pic of that fat retard "Debunking" the belle curve by saying
"I don't BELIEVE that intelligence can be measured with a test. You guys a literally feels>>>>>>>reals.

I'm afraid you're mistaking me for someone else. I have never claimed nor do I believe that "Jewish bankers backed Hitler". Though it is possible some of Hitler's many financiers might have been Jewish, I don't find this particularly remarkable — if anything, it just shows how cynical capitalists tend to be.

Like the Soviets?

IQ is a hoax, this comes from a nazi
Whites are smarter, but the test itself is a joke
endchan.xyz/pol/res/45046.html

He says as he deliberately ignores evidence disproving his claims that the Nazis were socialist and that they made scientific advancements.

I made that claim, not

Anyway here

Literally feels over reals. You stormfags are fucking pathetic.

Except for the American space program, The Soviet space program which were both run by Nazi scientists. russianspaceweb.com/rockets_ussr_germany.html

Also the AK47 was actually made by Hugo Schmeisser

You claimed that unemployment in Nazi Germany was non-existent without providing any sort of evidence to back up your claim. This is wrong, so I debunked that nonsense using easily-verifiable facts.

I didn't claim that, though I would agree that the recovery under Hitler consisted mostly of smoke and mirrors. It was entirely based on endless military spending, union busting, slave labor and wholesale looting i.e. it was unsustainable beyond panicked authoritarian measures.

It's not, it's much more nuanced than that. You should try reading a history book once in a while, they tend to have more words than Blogspot entries or meme infographics but they also have the advantage of being searched and sourced.

Also I'm not the one who called you out on shit sources. Congrats on being too retarded to tell people apart.

I don't defend the historical Soviet policies of forced labor and statistics manipulation. You do realize that not everyone who oppose Nazism are Stalin apologists, right?

1. The Ak-47 was made by Kalishnokov.

2. These were ex-Nazis, not actual nazis.

3. Considering the Nazis believed in Jewish physics, they themselves weren't the fore-runners of """scientific thought""""

Not an argument. If you're going to refute evidence made by economists and articles which contain cited sources the only retard here is you.

And since it has been brought to light that you're talking to different people have you considered that I am anti socialist and do not believe that Hitler was a socialist. I have no problem with regulated private industry. Hitler praised Henry Ford and gave him the Grand Cross of the Supreme Order of the German Eagle.

Just like people who lived in former Soviet territories who were card carrying commies can be described as es-commies and not real commies. And you do realize that jew physics was about Einstein's plagiarism?

relativity.tripod.com/einstein-s-universal-plagiarism.html

Are you retarded? You don't need that to debunk it
The premise itself is crazy, it's a fucking test with the test creators choosing what answers are correct and which aren't, they can do whatever they want to with it. If I had the control over the test I could've made Dravidians the smartest and Arabs the lowest or any other stupid combination just by using statistical data on the questions and people that answer them.

The entire conflict is a huge anecdote, you have one camp where idiots claim that there's a test that measures intelligence and the second camp which claims race differences in intelligence do not exist because this stupid test has been debunked, I don't know which of them are dumber.

Are these the people that say how great capitalism is? Very reliable, noble and unbiased people.

physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2011/aug/23/did-einstein-discover-e-equals-mc-squared

physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2011/aug/23/did-einstein-discover-e-equals-mc-squared

Literal conspiracy tier, though not surprising from a nazi.

Forgot another source

nytimes.com/1997/11/18/science/findings-back-einstein-in-a-plagiarism-dispute.html

Dude, for real…?

The idea of "Jewish Physics" was not limited to Einstein's alleged plagiarism but was a wholesale attack on theoretical physics.