How the fuck is this piece of shit not in prison?

>>174408196Why would a retard fire a gun when even the blanks he was expecting are more than capable of killing someone at that range?

>>174407945every dumb faggot with TDS should be in prison, they’re a net negative to society

>>174407547Because he didn't kill her. She killed herself, chud.

>>174407547>"why don't I just shoot the two of you" then aimed and began firing the gun.Jesus Christ Baldwin...

>>174408025then why hire an armorer? why even hire a caterer just get the actors to make their own lunch.

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>>174408411you don't actually believe what you are saying, do you? You're just misbehaving for negative attention because you are lonely.

>>174408309Because he's rich and famous and fuck you.

>>174407547Because he called the judge a faggot and threatened to kick his ass.

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>>174408196Because they want authenticity. A majority of productions use real weapons with either blanks or dummy rounds. They want the actors to move like they're holding the real thing. They'll have them fire blanks, again, to make it look authentic. The only time you don't do that is when you have some low budget production and they opt to have Indians put in CG muzzle flashes and shell ejections while the actor rattles around a fake gun

>>174408196For this exact reason. You’re holding a weapon (doesn’t matter if it’s real or fake) and you’re responsible for it. Stop being a woman and thinking you can blame others for your fuck ups. It’s your fault you’re a dipshit fucking loser and it’s your fault you’re a virgin. Women aren’t the problem. You are.

>>174409026based schizo

>>174408309>blanks can kill youno idea why this urban legend suddenly became fact in the past 5 years or so

>>174407754>Laughing now, Mike?

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>>174407547Alex “one more take and it’s your wake” Baldwin

>>174409026No, trust me faggot, women ARE the problem. Fuck women.Fuck ALL women.Women, ALL women, including your stupid gaping vagina mother, owe me sex. Faggot. You're a fucking retard, cockmongrel faggot.

>>174409026Projecting just a little there, buddy.

I heard through the grapevine Balders had the hot gun on him and switched it with the prop gun so he could shoot her and get away with having time off work for a holiday as the shoot was behind and he didnt want to cancel his holiday so he figured out away to go on his holiday.

he had a bassinger flashback

>>174409089They can if you shoot it right against someone's head, but not from a distance. Alec did nothing wrong.

>>174409026I agree with you but wtf was that fucking schizo rant at the end lmao

>>174407945>Why would he be?

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>>174409338>gun could not fire without trigger pull

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>>174407754He didnt even apologize for killing her

>It's Helena!>The woman he killed was Helena!!

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>>174409421He shared his pancakes with her kid, leave the poor man alone

>>174409421Why would he? She chose to stand there infront of a bullet, literal suicide.

>First one's always the hardest, Alec.But it gets easier.

>>174407819The real killer is dead.She died when Alec shot and killed her.

>>174409421Why apologize for some shit you didn't do wrong?

>>174409389>Contradicting Alec Baldwin’s claim…….

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>>174409451>It's Helena!>The woman whose head he put the gun to and said "Dodge this" and then pulled the trigger. The woman who cried out "Why Alec? Why?" as she fell to the floor. The woman whose limp and still warm body lay there as he made masturbatory motions over it followed by a sick dab. The woman he defiled with a Denny's coupon was Helena!

>>174409089Yeah i'm totally fine and not deadt. Brandon Lee

it was clearly suicide

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>>174409522Autist

>>174409854Whatever you say, brainiac.

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I heard he had a gopro stashed in his top pocket, filmed it and sold the 4k footy on the snuff market for some Denny's vouchers

>>174408196i literally have a gun safety license in film. guns are typically real guns in film, they look real and the actor feels like its real, also the muzzle flash looks real. they are typically filled with blanks, the story that is given about his gun is apparently it was used for target practice earlier and then used as a prop which is not standard procedure. heres the thing though, no matter what anyone says, it was his fault. the chain of command on who is responsible for gun safety is, the producer, then the director, then the gun safety officer, then the person holding teh gun. he was three of those four roles lol. everytime a gun is handed from another person, the person handing off the gun has to check the gun, then the person recieving the gun has to check the gun, then yell CLEAR. ALSO, you are never allowed to directly point a firearm at another person. every time you see a gun "directly pointed at the camera", if you pay close attention, its actually pointing just off to the side of teh camera, and they are using camera tricks to make it look like its directly at the camera. in addition, typically when they do that shot, they have the camera remotely operated, just to make absolutely sure. ALSO, another actor commented on this situation, i can't remember his first name but his last name was ironically baldwin but he's not related, he said he's used that exact gun that alec used, and it literally cannot be fired without having your finger on the trigger, when alec claimed some how it went off without his finger on the trigger. plus there was a fuck ton of eye witnesses. This is literally a person getting away without right criminal negligence and manslaughter if not out right murder.

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Remember Baldwins daughter the selfish little pig? Well, selfish little pig baldwin's school has been selling those coupon books, and long story short, Alec has a fist full of buy one get one free grand slams. Y'all better mind your comedy.

WHO DID IT?

>>174409307read this>>174410255ALSO, blanks absolutely can kill someone at a distance, here is how. often when guns go off, they can leave a residue in the barrel. With movie blanks, they use even more gunpowder then a normal bullet does to get a really nice muzzle flash. So not only does that mean that more residue can form in the barrel, but also, when that residue is built up enough to fire as a projectile at what its point at, it will be fired with more velocity then the average bullet. in addition, shrapnel from the shell casing can also sometimes be fired by the gun or form in the residue.

Alec has already said if he could go back to the moment of the accident he would pay like ten grand for the experience and do it over and over.

>>174410255>i literally have a gun safety license in film.You probably have a cocksucking degree in real life

>>174407547>>174408025>>174409026>>174410255Enough with the fudd gun safety larping, just admit you hate Baldwin for his politics/attitude and just want to see him suffer instead of trying to blame him for the retarded armorer's fuckup

>>174407547>How the fuck is this piece of shit not in prison?I ask the same thing about Ezra "Different Crime Every Month" Miller

>>174410255>This is literally a person getting away without right criminal negligence and manslaughter if not out right murder.A person? You mean a Baldwin, he won , get over it. He has, the next morning over breakfast at Denny's.

>>174410525he does. I am a space doctor.

>when you get handed a HOT GUN

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>>174410537While I was not a fan of his impression of president Trump, his impression of Dick Cheney was a bullseye.

>>174410679its really not hard to get a gun safety license, you sit in a class for like two hours while a guy explains to you how to not be a retard.

>>174407547Absolutely based response, alex is a king and the nepotist hired women in charge of weapons got what she fucking deserved.

>>174409775I mean he's not wrong, she should have known how to do her job.

>>174407547Take the shot, user.

>>174407547Is the stress affecting his hair?

>>174408196the nepotistic production hired their unqualified liberal family member to handle the guns.

>>174407754kek what a salty murdering bitch (KWASMB)

>>174407754>what, you gonna shoot me too?Missed an golden opportunity mike.

>>174407547not his fault he was put in a self defense situation

>>174409732I guess it was technically a real round stuck in the barrel that killed him but I agree with you cus it WAS a blank that caused it.

Alec Baldwin is one of those dudes you know is genuinely evil but you can’t stop enjoying the films (like Kevin Spacey).

>>174410255>then the directorYou mean 1st AD?

>>174411121Not only did they handle the guns, they handled that dumb cunt, all the way to her grave.

>>174410537it literally wasn't the armorers fault retard. it was entirely his fault. he pointed a gun at another person, the minute we see that on set we are qualified to yell "CUT!" and insist that they don't have a gun any more, thats how against the rules it is. and he was the producer and director, the responsibility of safety is literally more on the director and the producer then the armorer, and he's been in the film industry for decades, there is literally no reason why he didn't kno wbetter, its all his fault.

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>>174409421likely his team of lawyers. apologizing can be seen as an admission of guilt. same reason you see shit like cops throwing a flash bang in a baby's crib and they tip toe around saying anything approaching an apology

>>174409421She commmitted suicide.

>>174411371not that they should say an apology, but they certainly should not have said "swish"

>>174408313Based and correct

>>174407547>How the fuck is this piece of shit not in prison?He has a good omen.

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>>174411275no i do not, the AD is usually the one that is actually present who is most responsible ON SCENE for gun safety, but actually, the burden lies further on the director and more then that the producer, especially if they are present, which he was.

>>174411288I keep seeing this autistic /k/ response. Look at every movie that has a shoot out. See what's happening!? THEY ARE SHOOTING BLANKES RIGHT AT THE CAMERA! There's at least a camera operator if not his team behind there, if not a giant crew which is always is behind a camera. It was her SOLE FUCKING JOB to make sure the guns on set were safe and she failed. she holds like majority of the blame. Fuck me how people don't get this blows my mind.

>>174409338How come the FBI is investigating this and not jan 6th insurrection?

>>174410255>be studio firearms operator>have gun safety license for film like a fruit>grab a gun out of a trailer>grab some random rounds>idk they look like blanks>here Mr. BaldwinI agree with you, that he is accountable, but so is fucking everyone else.Tbh your entire defense sounds like something from a grimey, kvetching studio executive trying to shift the blame

When will you retards understand that not everybody is an insane incel gun nut like you guys? Just because you spend all of your free time browsing /k/, and can name every gun ever made, doesn't mean that normal people are as autistic as you. Baldwin, being a normally functioning human being, has no knowledge about guns, nor does he care to learn about them. He had no idea that when he was directed to point the gun at the camera he was breaking gun law #3742. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't even know that it was a real gun.

>>174407547the first rule of gun safety is "Assume the firearm is loaded"

>>174411490One would think the guy who conducts the safety meetings first thing in the day and is responsible for managing/running the set would be in charge of safety. I must be thinking of someone else.

>>174411288he was also supposed to check his gun before using ithe was also supposed to not have his finger on the trigger except for when a scene calls for ithe was also supposed to make it so the scene that they were filming had the cinematographer protected in some way, usually by remotely operating the camera. it was all his fault. >>174411513show me any scene where that is happening and you can clearly see the gun is not actually pointing at the camera, it is literally pointing just off to the side and usually the camera operator isn't there. >>174411513you are basing this that its all her fault based totally on nothing, the course that i took literally taught us that its primarily the producer, then the director, THEN THE AMOURERS fault. it would be unfair to do it any other way because then the producer and director could more easily get away with horrible accidents on set by just blaiming it on the armorer when they have the power that tehy do to intimidate teh armorer into going against safety protocols. they also can and often do just ignore safety protocols, so they deserve more of the blame becuase they are in charge of the set. plus everything else i fucking said, he was supposed to check the gun, and he was supposed to not point it anyone, this is hammered home over and over again on set, don't fucking point the gun at anyone, keep your finger off the trigger, don't play with the guns, check them when ever you get them. holy fuck.

>>174411609>breaking gun law #3742it's rule #1

>>174411622bro nothing you are saying addresses the fact that he pointed a gun at another person and no one had even called "action".

>>174411609He broke the very first rule you are taught in classes made for people that know nothing about guns.

>>174411655>show me any scene where that is happening and you can clearly see the gun is not actually pointing at the camera, it is literally pointing just off to the side and usually the camera operator isn't there.I've linked them way like a dozen times in these threads and I'm not going to anymore. Your wrong, I'm right.

>>174411609it is constantly discussed on set to never point the gun at a camera or a person. its gunsafety rule number 1, they literally do not allow you to operate a gun without telling you the rules very thoroughly, and he's been in the film industry for decades, there is literally no excuse, he killed someone, its his fault.

>>174410255If the brakes don't work on my car, when I just came from the garage to get my brakes fixed and I drive over a pedestrian who's crossing the street because my brakes don't work, am I at fault here?

>>174411721ok bitch. but like forreal, literally any scene where teh gun is pointing "right at teh camera" it is literally not. plus there is usually not a person behind the camera when they do that, thats why those shots are usually still, they just leave the camera running. you are retarded. pic related, not pointing at the camera, just off to the side

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>>174411716>>174411691>>174411680>>174411655>>174411615youtu.be/cvEKvJGTzeUFucking /k/ retards.

>>174411743yes of course retard, you need to check to make sure your breaks are functional before you go driving. also thats a car, not a gun where you are not even handed a gun until you are told strict rules that you ahve to follow no matter what wether or not hte gun is handled badly by someone else or not. What part ar you not understanding, he was not supposed to ever point the gun at another human being, it was not supposed to be even possible for him to kill someone even if the gun was fully loaded, you are not supposed to point a gun at ah uman being, let alone point the gun and then pull the trigger, let alone point the gun and pull the trigger when someone hadn't even yelled "action". there is no way around that. low level gun safety experts literally have the power to say brad pitt can't use a gun any more, he has to use a rubber, thats how seriously this is taken on a film set, its literally no one elses fault but alecs.

>>174411615the first rule of gun safety is actually don't talk abut gun safety.

>>174407754he's got some serious anger issues, if he didn't he never would have "jokingly" pointed a gun at someone in the first place

>>174407547can’t wait for this leftoid to rot in prison

>>174411853kek

>>174411791watch again dumb ass, neo fires his gun when he is not pointing it directly at the crew, when he is pointing it in their general direction, he is no longer firing the gun, they are digitally inserting the muzzle flashes, and the crew is behind bullet proof glass. fucking idiot.

>>174408196the set coordinator could have had one of her monkeys accidentally get a real gun instead of a fake one for the shot (it looks better on screen). The live ammo is unforgivable and basic gun safety dictates you always treat a non-cleared gun as if it is ready to shoot. Baldwin is ultimately at fault because if you don’t know basic gun safety you should not be anywhere near firearms

>>174411743If your job was to drive this car that a crew of people rigged and set up and you get in hit the gas and realize there's no breaks and drive over a pedestrian who's crossing the street, are you at fault?

>>174411948 you also can't even actually see people behind the bullet proof glass, just equipment, its probably remotely operated, you are a dumb ass

Why would Baldwin murder her? What could he possibly stand to gain?

>>174411996Lurk moar user

>>174411996if its made clear that you must always check to make sure teh breaks are operating when ever you operate teh vehicle, and if you are not even allowed to drive on roads that pedestrians are on, and you were driving on that road outside the context of your job and just for fun when its explicitly a rule that you are not allowed to, then yea, its all your fault.

>>174411834Relax, I was trying to harvest some (you)'s with a retarded equivalency. Didn't work. You're right. He's wrong on 3 of the 4 occasions. Even one should be enough to condemn him. And that's the one where he handles the gun himself.

>>174412049All press is good press, and the really evil part of his whole plan... kids under 12 eat FREE at dennys. It was the perfect crime.

>>174412049 maybe he's just that catostrophically retarded and it was an accident, its still his fault though.

>>174411948>W-WELL HES NOT ACTUALLY FIRING WHEN HES POINTING IT AT THEM! HES FIRING DISAPLIN IS PEFECT!

>>174412131its unclear that it was even one seemless shot. it could have been two shots taht tehy edited together for this footage. he is not firing the gun, you can see that. the cameras are behind bullet proof glassyou can't see any people behind the bullet proof glass. i am right nigger.

>>174412177are you aware that when a real gun with a blank is fired, the barrel moves and there is a muzzle flash?the barrel moves and there is a muzzle flash when he is not facing hte camera, once he is facing hte camera, the barrel does not move and there is no muzzle flash.and more importantly, bullet proof glass, no humans behind the glass, remote operated cameras, suck my dick.

>>174407754Alec Chadwin

>>174411615based, Fuck all these soiboy keyboard warriors that piss and moan at 2A. Always point the gun away from others, assume it’s loaded, CLEAR it, then inspect, disassemble, practice…Baldwin is a liberal faggot larping as a cowboy and killed some poor lady because of it

is there any truth to the account that just before firing Baldwin said "Live rounds are for closers"

>>174412238dude guns get double checked on a film site, the person handing it off AND the person recieving it, its impossible for it to be anyones fault but baldwin

>>174412220>>174412177I think you guys agree and somehow ended up arguing with eachopther. I'm the faggot who thinks both of you are morons.You can clearly see scenes inn which blanks are being fired directly at stunt people and the camera. Checkmate atheists.

t-thanks bro

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>>174408196>real gun instead of a prop gun

>>174412341those were both me lol. show the scenes in which blanks are being fired directly at stunt people. some times they use gas powered fake guns like they did on john wick, so they could point the guns at eachother. When ever a real gun is used, they are not allwoed to point the gun at other people, we have a whole system on setting up angles on the set so although it looks like it on camera, no one is ever actually pointing a gun at someone, its always five feet to the left or right.

And stop freaking out so much. He'll get convicted for sure. Most likely jailtime.

>>174412386>some times they use gas poweredOk now I know you're trolling lol

>>174412370this was the guy i referenced earlier, he went further to say that he's literally used the gun alec baldwin did, and alec claimed he didn't have his finger on the trigger, but that make of gun is literally impossible to go off without the trigger being pulled. its like an old western style revolver, its not a gun with lots of springs and a clip or magazine. each bullet is manually loaded and then the hammer is manually pulled by the trigger, its literally impossible for it to be anyones fault but baldwins. baldwin didn't check the gun (wrong), didnt make sure teh gun was safe (wrong as a director producer and guy operating the gun), pointed teh gun at another person (wrong) and pulled the trigger (wrong) during a time when no one had even called action (wrong), the guy should go to prison.

because he makes kino

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>>174412409do y ou not understand that pellet guns use CO2? which is a gas?we use pellet guns that look real for some scenes where we want people to point guns at eachother, it would have been too hard with the gun fu on john wick to use real guns, so they used co2 ones for all the fight scenes where they are pointing shit at ecahother. you can tell because it looks like shit if your paying attention.

>>174412468Didn't the FBI inspect the gun? I don't even know what the fuck that means: but they ruled that it was impossible that he didn't pull the trigger.

>>174412556i didn't know that, but i know that simply on the design of the gun, theres no possible way it can discharge with out teh hammer striking the bullet, which is only done by squeezing the trigger. MAYBE if you pulled the hammer back some kind of accident could occur, but then that would still be his fault because he fucking pulled the hammer back.

>>174412543the CO2 is used to make the barrel slide back when the trigger is pulled, so it looks more realistic.

as a guy with a gun safety license, i am saying that this is literally a case of a celebrity getting away with manslaughter, he should be in prison.

>>174411609the person at fault here is the diversity hire gun master, who had zero experience and was completely unqualified for the job and gave a loaded gun to an idiot actor without telling him and didn't immediately take it away from him between shots. But you're not going to see people up in arms against a diversity hire, especially when most normies don't even know movie sets work.

>>174409089en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blank_(cartridge)#Fatal_accidents

>"CINEMATOGRAPHERS could be here" he thought, "I've never been on this set before. There could be CINEMATOGRAPHERS anywhere." His cowboy hat shielded his eyes from the bright studio lights. "I HATE CINEMATOGRAPHERS" he thought. A gunshot sent a shockwave through his arm, making it kick back even as the $900 wine circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of cinematographers after dark. "With a gun, you can do anything you want" he said to himself, out loud.

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>>174412049Because he can get away with murder, and this is proof

>>174411609I've never handled a gun and even I know you shouldn't point it at people. Second: You check it and get it verified by a second person on set that you're good before pointing it at someone. Third: He's been handling guns on movie sets all of his life. But that's a doubtful argument because it could account for his slackiness, which resulted in the death of a person.

>>174407547He has enough Good Boy Points saved up with the DNC.

>>174411721You're acting slightly more retarded than usual for negative attention because you are lonely.

Lol at all the trigger discipline autists itt who think a gun or rounds capable of killing someone should be allowed on a movie set. Armorer and producers by proxy are at fault. Alec is a chad and doesn't need to hear your gay ass opinion

>>174412960Alec IS the producer.

>>1744129601. he's claiming a round was in the chamber, that could be a lie to make it seem like it wasn't his fault, it could have just been residue or a shell fragment. 2. guns are literally always on set and have been since the dawn of film making and every actor knows this and is grilled the safety protocols of handling a gun. the number one rule is "never point a firearm at another human being, only ever point the gun at something you are willing to destroy" its not a matter of trigger discipline autism, its not autism to acknowledge that there are fucking safety rules with firearms on a film set. also you say the producers were by proxy at fault?guess who was the producer you massive fucking retard. Alec Baldwin.

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>>174411609If your effeminate little tranny was can't be bothered to learn rule #1 about safety when handling guns because you're too busy dilating, then maybe you don't need to be handling guns in the first place?No matter how many people you call "incels" that won't change the fact that they are intelligent and you're a retard.

>>174412899I don't give a shit about the dumb broad who was responsible for guns and some ammo laid sloppily around on set. Even if you disregard all the other things like Baldwin cutting corners and being a Prima Donna actor, you just don't point a gun at people. And if it's for a movie at least make sure you're with two persons to verify if it's safe. And not by the girl who does your bagels and orange juice errands in the morning.

>>174413177literally this, everything else aside, if you pointed a gun at a person you are at fault if that gun then shoots that person.

>>174411609>Um, actually, it's a GOOD thing to be a fucking idiot that knows nothing about what you're doing and get people killed as a resultHoly fucking SHIT the absolute state if Leftists. Literal fucking drooling retards AND unironically proud of it.

>>174413177It might seem like excessive safety precautions, but situations like these show why it it necessary. It might be one in a million, but if it happens, the whole thing turns into a clusterfuck and somebody dies. Which could have been perfectly preventable. So yeah, sometimes it's necessary to be an autist about safety, because of freak accidents like this.

>>174408025Not true.I worked on film sets for 5 years. The armorer has a few jobs but the single most important is checking the gun before handing it to the actor or stuntman. It’s honestly so simple and such a huge obvious fuck up.As much as I hate Baldwin he is 0% liable. And that’s even if he pulled the trigger.I’m convinced his lawyer told him to tell the public he never pulled the trigger, just for public favor. But the reality is trigger pull or no, he did not commit a crime. Most likely the armorer will be convicted of manslaughter. Since Baldwin was a producer the victims family will sue him and he will probably settle for 5 million to 10 million.

>>174413380you are literally making this up. regardless of the fact tha tthe gun was supposed to be checked, baldwin is absolutely liable and if he wasn't a major celebrity he would be fed to the wolves. pointing the gun at someone and pullign the trigger is absolutely something that makes him liable. MAYBE, he could rightfully argue its not as severe as some cases of manslaughter, but thats still what he should be charged with. its the number one rule of gun safety to never point the gun and ccertainly pull the trigger at something you are not willing to destroythis is making me wonder if alec baldwin literally has paid shills defending him. liek its total horseshit that he's not liable.

>>174413380its also as of yet totally unproven that the gun indeed had a live round in it, thats just what peple are claiming. it could have literally just been residue or a shell fragment. fuck you. it is literally taught in gun safety class that the producer, director and assistant director have a higher burden of safety on them then the armorer and gun safety cordinator.

>>174413380dude its a absolute rule that the person handing off the gun and the person recieving the gun are supposed to check the gun, are you not doing that on your film sets? because you are breaking the rules.

>>174413380That sounds bleak. Don't you have any responsibility when handling the gun? I feel the end responsibility should lie with the handler. 'Acting on good faith', doesn't cut it when you're handling a gun, different rules should apply: "You're the one holding the gun: it's your responsibility." Just to avoid these types of discussions.

>>174409089Ever heard of Jon-Erik Hexum?

>>174413556he's literally lying, its a person literally making up that they work on film sets. that or something more disturbing. in many film sets gun safety rules have been known to be flaunted because the people working are being irresponsible and having their celebrity get to their head,. i think this is the case with baldwin, and if thiis guy actually does work on a film set (note tehy are not saying they are a gun safety cordinator), and they are claiming the rules aren't being followed for five years, then thats how lacsidasical his environment has become in following what are actually the rules. that means that people are being insane because of their celebrity status, not that alec baldwin isn't at fault.

>>174407547I love how the story constantly changes and NOBODY asks questions or dares hold him accountable.

>>174408025trumpturds are so fucking desperate. still mad because baldwin made fun of your little billionaire daddy who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire?

>>174409338did i just dream it or didn't we already see video where he pulls it??

>>174413623he is still holding the gun.

>>174407547I remember playing an Ace Attorney case where someone got killed while performing a magic trick with a gun. I thought it was stupid cause why wouldn’t they just use a blank? Guess reality is unrealistic

>>174411513I guarantee you haven't held or used a firearm in your life. There are very basic weapon safety rules. Unless you are nigger or a sand nigger you treat every weapon as if it were loaded. You're the dumb kid who blows his brains out and ends up on /gif/

>>174407945Because he fucking shot and killed someone you moronic piece of fucking trash kill yourself.

>>174408025>Actors are supposed to check the gun not just the armorerThen why hire an armorer to begin with?

>>174413623He has to be facing jailtime for sure. Even if it's in some white collar prison. If he doesn't get jailed, well then that's just another nail in the coffin and feeding into my cynicism. I know there's bigger things to worry about than some hasbeen shooting a tart on a low budget movie,. But it's also being a bit curious about seeing if some of them really are untouchable.

the minute a gun is unaccounted for on set, like literally the moment a gun can not be found, the cops are instantly called to do a search of the area for the missing gun, thats how intensely film sets take ( or should take) gun safety. there is literally no way to blame this on anyone other then alec baldwin. maybe if it turns out there was a round, then the armorer should also get some blame, but the bulk of the blame clearly lies on baldwin, he broke the most important rules of gun safety, do not point a gun at someone, do not pull the trigger at someone.

>>174413864to have that much more a level of precation. in addition to everyone sharin gsome element of responsibility over gun safety, you have people whos job is specifically gun safety. The reason being they are fucking guns you retard.

>>174409389>gun could not fire without trigger pullSome revolvers can be fired by your thumb slipping off the hammer when it's pulled back but not all the way into a locked position

>>174413922Please learn how to type.

>>174413766>Point out that the reality of film sets is that people sometimes get firearm's pointed directly at them while blanks are being fired>Show irrefutable evidence of this fact>NO UR DUBM!You guys have to be trolling at this point.

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>>174413971yes but that would still make it his fault because he shouldn't have been fingering the hammer. and he claims that he wasn't touching the hammer or the trigger. that he was just holding it and it went off entirely on its own. teh fbi concluded that the gun did not go off on its own.

>>174409144>ALL women, including your stupid gaping vagina mother, owe me sexAnd your floppy dick dad owes me his cock.

>>174411574He is the studio in this case you retard

>>174414015there has been literally no proof of that fact being shown. they do not point fire arms at other people on set, it is mandatory to point your gun five feet to the left or right T. gun safety coordinator.

>>174413881>maybe if it turns out there was a round, then the armorer should also get some blameRumor has it the armorer was using the guns to target shoot during off time. Gun never went missing at any point.

>>174409026A self-hating femcel, I see.

>>174412049He's an idiot and didn't think it was loaded.

>>174414023As far as I know his official claim was just "I didn't pull the trigger" which led to a bunch of youtubers trying to fire the gun by dropping the hammer with that specific model of revolver

>>174414083i know that it never went missing. that is the RUMOR. thats unproven. and even if thats true, its still baldwins fault, its just then ALSO somewhat the armorers fault.

>>174414113he said in an interview that it "just went off in his hand".

>>174407754>an actual murderer pledges to find youGenuinely terrifying.

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>>174407547I haven't been following the story that closely.But if the gun fired a bullet when it wasn't supposed to then I don't see how it's anyone's fault except the person in charge of preparing the weapons.

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>>174414113Kek, I'm not really following this case, apart from jumping in on one of these threads but that's interesting. What was their conclusion? Probably the one that would give them the most views.

>>174414072How did the DP and Brandon Lee get shot then? Maybe(wait for it...) they(could it be?) point guns at people(no way!) on film sets. It just rarely gets someone fucking killed.

>>174414187Exactly. I've been saying this for years.

>>174409522>his murder was perfectly executed without any wrong stepsweird flex, but not sure how relevant

>>174412960>Armorer and producers by proxy are at fault>producersSo he's still guilty, nice try Cuckwin.

>>174414210we literalyl go over the brandon lee case in the gun safety course. the gun safety guy wasn't present, so they used a prop master instead. they didn't have blanks, so they manually made blanks out of actual bullets (LOL)they fired the gun, and one of those makeshift blanks had a fragment wad get stuck in the barrel. they didn't check the gunthe guy pointed his gun at brandon when he wasn't supposed to. it was a series of horrible fuck ups.

>>174407547ngl he looks good in this pictureBrendan Fraser should shoot someone too

>>174407547>How the fuck is this piece of shit not in prison?He's rich.

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>>174414187because the number one safety rule with guns on a film set, and guns in general is, always assume the gun is loaded, do not point the gun at anything you are not willing to destroy, do not point the gun at another person, keep your finger off the trigger unless you intend to fire, never fire your weapon in the direction of a person.

>Baldwin has now murdered more people than the entire collective of Jan 6th """rioters"""AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

>>174414210Pretty sure the regulations got more strict after Brandon Lee got shot. Who'd even heard of this movie before someone got shot? It's obvious this was a third world shithole movie and they were cutting corners every which way. And it came back to bit him in the ass in the worst possible manner. That's what happens baby. He rolled the dice, and lost.

>plan a shitty indie movie to raise your cache>fund most of it so you can seem like a big shot>cheap out on literally everything>union crew freaks out over how you've cheaped out so hard and refuses to work on the set with someone flagrant safety violations>hire scabs who don't care about the safety conditionsHow could anything go wrong?

>>174413380>he is 0% liableSee >>174413129

>>174407547>How the fuck is this piece of shit not in prison?because of his Trump portrayal

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>>174414115Blame is this >30% the armor (Direct and sole job to ensure the firearms are safe)>50% Baldwin the producer for hiring, and not firing her after they had reported firearm dischargers in the days leading up to the shooting>15% 1st AD who said it was a cold gun, handed it to Baldwin and is responsible for the overall safety on set >5% Baldwin the actor for accidently shooting the Director and DP

>>174413380>>174413456>>174413511samefag identical posting styles

>>174408196It one of those things where it’s almost ridiculous to expect them to actually check it, but yeah I’m sure they’re supposed to

>>174414406don't forget that also the person recieving and giving the gun on a set are always supposed to check the gun. its a rule, you are not allowed to use a gun on set if you don't follow these rules.

OP didnt even give the account name of his epic twitter screencapthats how legit it must be

>>174407547>Yeah I killed her AND I'D DO IT AGAINWhat did he mean by this?

>>174414422wrong, in the case of direct fire arm operation negligence, the operator is most at fault. the others are only more at fault if it was a freak occurance where other wise the operator wasn't negligent. liek the gun actually going off on its own, or someone getting hurt as a result of him pointing his gun where he is supposed to and firing when he is told to. >>174414443yea because the second two posts are meFuck it i'll just start namefagging

Time for breakfast

>>174414454I don't believe this is true but I could be wrong. Can you find it in the SAG guide or some other Hollywood handbook? I've seen hot guns be handed directly to actors(without checking) by the armorer in BTS

>>174408025I mean I would because I own and understand guns, libshit retarded actors dont know jack shit about jack shit which is why they hire people who do know shit

>>174414562Denny's on me bro

>>174411743You're at fault if you think it would be a funny prank to slam the gas at the pedestrians thinking you could slam on your breaks at the last second to spare them and kill one of them

>>174407819Quaity post.

>>174414576the thing is people neglect the rules all the time, because hollywood is absolute insanitybut these are the rules. i am having trouble finding it in writing but i'll keep looking, its just something that my teacher taught us and that everyone verbally fucking knows. but here is an article confirming you are not supposed to ever actually point a gun at someone.

>>174414780breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/10/25/nolte-sag-rules-say-actors-should-never-point-firearm-at-anyone/

>>174407819I killed a plate of flapjaks with a bottle of syrup at Denny's and am ready to turn myself in

>>174414465People come to Holla Forums for advice on everyting: Music, Guns, Politics. Even /lit/ comes on here to wine about their books. This is where the magic happens, baby. Deal with it.

>>174408025You aren’t absolved of basic responsibility because of your employer/business’s chain of command. It’s like running over a person in a company car and saying it isn’t your responsibility to drive properly

I worked for a movie theatre and I pointed guns at people all the time

>>174409421The gun killed her, not Baldwin. That's why we need more gun laws.

>>174414187>original head armorer raises concerns>production fires armorer, replaces with some literal who first-timer>armory department fucks up and someone dieswant to guess who the producer for the movie was?

>>174407547I honestly can't tell any more what's truth and what is satire.

>>174411027Bro memes aside you never point a prop gun at someone unless the barrels plugged or some shit. Regardless if she failed her duties you don't play with prop guns unless they're some homemade plastic shit. I would personally confront alec if I ever saw him I wanna die

I hate that I'm so bothered with it it, but their Halloween picture with the family last year bugged me. Yeah, he has a nice wife, kids, family, etc. But it's so disrespectul... You'd think if you'd just shot a wife and a mother, you'd at least have the common sense to stay away from social media for a while. And certainly not post a picture (maybe it was his wife, but he was on it) of your happy family. It's beyond distasteful and otherwordly.

>>174411541The FBI tries very hard to avoid investigating themselves if they can help it.

>>174415070shit's so clowned i look everything up because often times it turns out to be real

>>174409709I hope you're paid for your writing talents someday.

>>174409476>I let these assholes split the check with me and this is the kindness they show?!

>>174415133Shit if some untouchable scofflaw murdered my wife I'd be looking for a decent hunting rifle and a nightscope.

>>174407754he's so fucking based

>>174411743Did you yell "I'm going to hit you" and swerve towards him?

>>174414876that isnt the point retard. if you are going to make accusations at least provide a source instead of some random twitter post by nobody that could literally be made up. its like starting a thread with something someone posted here and stating it as factget your shit together

>>174407754>tries to shit on trump using the most made up bullshit since the pee tapes>gets clapped back>privates his twitter and never unlocks it back againlmao

>>174411541>insurrection

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>So next day right I call up her cuck husband and son>offer to take em out to Dennys explain my side etcetera >I'm doing the whole 1000 apologies crocodile tear shit between wolfing down a double helping of pancakes>anyways so we finish up, go to the counter and no word of a lie I asked em if we could split the bill>I thought for sure he was gonna finally crack>husband just mumbles something about apparently not bringing his wallet>know what I said?>I look em square in the eyes and I says >"hey, it was worth a shot right?">funniest shit you've ever seen

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>>174414207That revolver has a half cock position, which means that pulling the hammer as far back as you can get it before reaching a locking point won't hit the cap with the firing pin hard enough when you drop it

>>174415799Providing a source hasn't been a thing for quite some time. You can post any old bullshit. We mostly discuss box office grosses now and how we hate diversity in movies and can't get a girlfriend.

>>174410255shills BTFO

>>174407547Because he didn't do anything wrong you fucking schizo. I love that he'll never go to jail and you morons will seethe forever about it.

>>174408753why are you acting like indians doing effects are a bad thing? are you from Holla Forums?

>>174416141/tv/'s been pretty mellow as of late actually. Maybe they got a new batch of mods or policy's changed on the blueboards. I reckon the trannies offed themselves.

>>174407819It was some Puerto Rican guy.

>>174416240go the fuck back rajesh, no country in the entire world takes you seriously

>>174414876no one from /lit/ takes this board even somewhat seriously except for maybe that one fag who spams book of the new sun. stop kidding yourself, this board isn’t special. also >wine

>>174407754Mikebros...

Does anyone have that fake Denny's menu?

>>174414876I laughed

>>174414921Robert?

>>174414187the gun fired the bullet when he aimed it at her and pulled the trigger.The bullet wasn't coerced. The gun didn't collude with the bullet to frame Alec.

>>174416204Go to bed, Alec.

>>174416707For me, it's /diy/. That'll grow some hair on your ass.

>>174409389He thought his gun was a remington 700.

>>174407547Imagine an anti-gun tard not knowing firearm safety number one

>>174414366>(((Sackler)))Also, "Dopesick" is a pretty solid show if you want to watch some Keatonkino. Pretty short too.

>>174407547I ask the same question about Mass-Murdering Traitor Trump every goddamn day.Welcome to America's multi-tier justice system, where the wealthy buy the laws they want and everyone else takes it up the ass.

>>174409421>killing herNo, he shot her. Bullets and the fall killed her.

>>174407547He was fast, fast on the draw.

>meet alec on the street>"Hey check out this cool prop I found">BANG>"oh shit! good thing some hobo gave me that gun so I'm no longer legally responsible for my actions!"

Celebrities with approved political opinions could massacre an entire cruise ship before our joke of a justice system demands they be incarcerated.

>>174407547>You miss 100% of the shots you don't take - Alec Baldwin

>>174416053I bet he did it too.The moment that husband met Alec at the restaurant to hash it out over hash browns, he might as well have signed a confession himself. You don't socialize with your spouse's killer unless you're spiking the coffee with ricin.

>>174409421why would he? he's our saviour and she was a peasant, do you apologize for killing ants?

>>174415133But he's not shaving or combing his hair so you know he's really torn up about the whole fiasco.

>>174416240>Holla ForumsObsessed

>>174407547>4 hours and 58 minutes agowhat the fuck is this necrobumping shit bro

>>174413549and it's a rule for all people handling guns everywhere regardless of employment to check the fucking gun themself and not point and shoot it at something they're not willing to destroy without doing that.

>>174407547Be rich, user. Be famous.

>>174408196After jon hexum and Brandon lee you’d have to be a literal retard not to check your props

>>174407547he bought them breakfast, user

>>174418512fucking what?

>>174411743>>174415579>>174414738Top kek

>>174407547>why don’t I shoot you>shoots her>why did she die?HmmmWish he got shot instead though

>>174411743Potentially, but probably not as liable as if you're handed a gun. Are you expected to have the knowledge to be able to visually check your brakes?Have you received training and safety classes explaining the importance of checking your brakes every time you start the car?

>>174410537ALEC SHOULD NOT GO TO JAIL BECAUSE NAZI RACISTS ONLINE HATE HIM

>>174409536>THERE'S LITERALLY VIDEO FOOTAGE OF IT>STILL NO ONE DARES TO CHARGE HIMAlecbros just keep on winning

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>>174410537just admit you support Baldwin for his politics/attitude and just want to see him declared blameless instead of accepting that hes largely responsible for this accident and the armorer is not the only one at fault.

>>174407819fucking kek

>>174407819>It's time the real killer comes forward and this national nightmare can end.>>174419148

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>>174414887It’s more like your company saying “hey, take a picture in this fake car for our newsletter.” And then you get in the car and step on the gas and find out it’s not fake at all as you run two people over.

>>174410673LOL

i don’t like alec but it shouldn’t ever be a retarded actors job or responsibility to check equipment of any kindeverything should be completely vetted before handed to himhe did nothing wrong

>>174407954Seems legit.

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>>174415309>I bought those ungrateful fucks chocolate chip pancakes at a premium price, when i win this stupid lawsuit they'll buy me the goddam premium pancakes this time

>>174419194doesn't he have mirrors in his house?

>>174407547>"I SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR A FUCKING COLD GUN, DOES THIS LOOK COLD TO YOU, YOU FUCKING BITCH?">*begins violently finger fucking the trigger*

>>174408196It's cheaper to buy real guns than fake guns because of capitalism and the real bullets being on set are the mystery. Alec is saying the person in charge of inspecting the guns put them in there, she's saying it must've been Alec

>>174420041>Alec is saying the person in charge of inspecting the guns put them in there, she's saying it must've been AlecIt must be infuriating to be an officer investigating cases in Hollywood. You're dealing with professional actors, or actor wannabes who lie for a living. It pervades every moment of their life with how fucking fake and insane the industry and how much of shit is just appearances and lying to make yourself look good. You'll never get single piece of straight information out of any of these fucks, and they're so narcissistic they won't ever admit they ever did anything wrong.

>>174413681He literally shot and killed person.Is this how much Americans care about laws?If he wasn't celebrity he would be in prison rest of his life. Your country stinks mutts nigs running around killing people and looting.

>>174407547That's fucking hilarious>>174407754kek

Did he check the camera and mic too? Did he check the catering temperatures and the bathroom cleaning situation? Then why should he suddenly become a prop master expert according to republicans who accidentally shoot each other 200 times a week with non props? Not his problem it was the dumb prop persons problem. Case closed.

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>>174420487he was the fucking producer too, retard

>>174407547>>174407754It's funny because that's exactly how I expect Trump to react if he did something similar, must be something New York elites have in common.

>>174420758TDS is still alive & well

>>174420781>my personal New York elite is better and loves me Delusional faggotry is alive & well

>>174408196working prop guns are real guns retard

>>174420814>Wake up>Mald at drumf>Repeat

>>174420836>Wake up >Deepthroat New York elite>Repeat

>>174420856>afraid to say kikes>afraid to admit TDS>I-its le jew yorkersDon't you have some goyslop to consume?

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>he did nothing wrong, he's innocent>he committed cold blood murder and should go to prison for lifegod I hate you extremist faggots. You should all be executed.lmao see what I did there!!!!

>>174407547Did he write that line himself?

>>174420923>I'm fighting against the Jews by supporting Trump le 2016 thedonald boomer face

>>174420923while I agree with the sentiment, this picture is extremely poorly made and is very cringe.

>>174420966>If you're not malding at trump after 6 years you're defending himThis is your brain on HRT

>>174421017>I support Trump but I also hate Jews this is your brain on reddit

>>174421044>n-now it's support!Cry more about drump on reddit where someone cares

>>174407547Because he's based

>>174421094Trump is quintessentially reddit

What did Trump actually do to deserve being vilified so much again?Nobody seems to be able to answer me this simple question in a objective and rational way.What did he actually do to deserve being the new Hitler?

>>174421126Keep crying bitch nigger

>>174407547Did this actually happen? There's no way right, it's all just some joke, there's 0 chance that a real loaded gun would ever be confused with a fake film prop

>>174421127nothing really. Just like he didn't do anything to deserve to be worshipped. He did nothing but make everyone seethe at each other because he was so bold and brash. And perhaps, that was the true goal all along

>>174421127he's literally hitler, duh

>>174407754Based Baldwin

>>174421127Because we have lost all nuance to any critical thinking in our society. Everything has to be 110% black or white, no exceptions. Before being President, Trump was a rich-boy pseudo-celeb ass clown and acted like it. Then when he becomes President, he continues to act like a rich-boy pseudo-celeb ass clown everyone thinks he is Satan.

>>174421127he's a funny retard but his cultists are unfunny faggots, simple as

>>174421272how about you fucking read a post every once in a while you dumb nigger, instead of just spewing out dumb questions you're not going to read the answer to

>>174409709It really makes you think, doesn't it?

>>174407547>anti gun left wing nut>treats a gun like a toy and kills someone

>>174408025Even if he did check the weapon I wouldn’t expect a Hollywood Commiefornian to eyeball actual rounds vs blanks I don’t even know how you could do that without taking the ammo out >guns supposed to have blanks >*checks gun*>sure looks like it like wtf

>>174421127he was just an easy target for the media to latch on to to distract everyone from all the other shit happening

>>174421711>the NRA did this

>>174407547Look, he took that broad's pussy husband and their ugly kid out for breakfast. Why can't we just call it even? Yeah sure Alec forgot his wallet, but that happens to everybody. He even said he'd pay next time.

>>174409089You're a midwit

Do you think Alec's bodyguards frisked the husband before Alec showed up to act remorseful?

>>174415860Right? Trump is a fucking expert assassin now that can kill secret service agents? Its what I hate about bleeding heart liberals, they attack every angle, focus on the real issues, not the non-issues. Even the secret service agent was like "lolno I was fine" lets not act like trump could have done anything to a secret service agent. Trump can't just accidentally kill him, it's not one of your movie sets Alec.

>>174412908I can only change my GBP for tendies....

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>>174407754>>174407547Post the one where he is bitching about a cop that rightfully killed a transient knowing they wrongfully killed someone for the rest of their life

>>174409089>t.retard