I'm a massive fan of the history of the Third Reich and play Fascists in miniature wargaming.
Ryder White
I absolutely adore fascist music. Martial Industrial, neofolk, NSBM, I even love crude skinhead punk/metal. I dunno, there's something about art that is created by people with really strong views on things, like you cannot make metal any angrier than metal made by people who sincerely want to exterminate huge portions of the human race and institute a totalitarian dictatorship. It's like a weird art project only it's not at all, it's real.
It's not even a guilty pleasure. I have no shame. In fact I think they would be kind of pissed off if they knew communists listened to their music and loved it.
Luis Murphy
Sage for crypto fascist stealth thread
Hudson Campbell
I fucking reporting shit threads.
Camden Ward
If you cannot appreciate art antagonistic to your personal beliefs you are spooked.
Colton Lewis
If you don't understand what antagonism means you shouldn't use the term.
Sometimes I like to sit in my room pretending to be a moody goth grill.
Matthew Harris
I'm a very big fan of TS Eliot, even though reactionary modernism is cancer.
Kayden Robinson
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Easton Lewis
Same. I took an honor's course at uni on him. The prof was a supremely autistic Catholic and he thought that SJWs represented the "death of Western civilization." He also had a huge poster of Evelyn Waugh in his office. What about Joyce? I liked him a lot more than Eliot. But Joyce seems much more apolitical, although he's certainly anti-nationalist…
Tyler Jones
I love Death in June too, especially their more electronic album "Nada!". Their early albums actually don't have that much to do with nationalism beyond edgy aesthetics on the cover art. Their lyrics could be more aptly described as romantic nihilism or something.
Xavier Edwards
I want us to technologically revert to the renaissance period and the Americas to become instantly devoid of human life save for a few semi-isolated rural towns.
Chase Powell
What about Swans? One of my favorite bands. I have no idea what Gira's politics are but the band's aesthetics seem pretty fascistic.
Jaxon Morgan
It doesn't really "conflict with my leftist politics", but I'm a huge fan of 2005-2012 post hardcore, and metalcore, and I'm talking about the kind of shit a 14 year old scene girl would have on a YouTube playlist while she cries in her room.
Jason Martin
From a 2010 interview:
Ian Brown
Now that you bring it up, I think Mallgoth may have been what really led to the overlap between Goth and Emo/Scene and shit; one of the worst things to ever happen tbqh famalamadingdong. Like if you're gonna go for some kind of aesthetic like Mallgoth, you might as well just go for Visual Kei or something youtube.com/watch?v=zR3txfRU2FE
Joseph Gray
I don't really like the mallgoth aesthetic. I like the real goth aesthetic.
I just say "mallgoth" because I know Marilyn Manson and such is not goth music strictly speaking and since goth fans in this decade are some of the most pedantic people ever I wanted to make some kind of distinction.
Jacob Campbell
tbh I think the mallgoth aesthetic mostly comes from Tim Burton's cartoonish interpretation of German Expressionism (which was the direct source for gothic music's angsty, brooding style).
Nolan Gray
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Brandon Scott
I wish the left had strong spokesmen similar to fascist ones I like violent speech liberals are retarded because they think violent speech enunciation is literally violence (that includes Trump supporters calling SJWs "fascist") I wish it was brought back
Jonathan Ward
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Justin Baker
I love watching Holla Forums triggering the fuck out of the MSM and liberals plus the pathetic attempts of the media to understand the Internet
Adrian James
I dont really think of it as a "guilty" pleasure but I really love Sabaton despite my extreme anti nationalism and all myths associated with it and hate for militarism.
Juan Rodriguez
Not all songs of Sabaton are nationalist though.
In any case, what is your exact problem with militarism? I didn't like my time in the military (there is draft in my country) because it's basically dumber people telling you what to do but I don't really see how we could ever defend a revolution without having some sort of militarism.
Colton Watson
Smoking, I guess.
Daniel Barnes
is he, if I dare make such a hasty assumption, /ourguy/ ?
Grayson Edwards
I like fascist aesthetics
James Clark
I dont consider the abillity to self defend through a professional military as militarism. But the veneration and integration of the military into the national myth, making it into a central object of national identity and a symbol of national strenght is militarism. There is no better way to force nationalism on the population than through agressive use of the military and guilt tripping everyone into supporting "our" boys. In allmost all current nation states the miltary is considered a virtual extension of the whole unified population body.
Also I dont just reject nationalism, I am far more radical regarding that. I reject the concept of nations, their myths, the identification with past population groups and the mixing up of culture and nation. I consider the nation state as one of the worst abominations of capitalist liberalism.
I am not an anarchist though.
Charles Miller
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Gavin Martinez
But you know that glorification of military predates modern nations states by thousands of years right? Just have a look at medieval chivalry or Roman militarism. I don't think militarism must exclusively happen in a nationalist context. I'm against bourgeois militarism just as any other comrade but I don't believe militarism as something inherently bad. Even an Anarchist country would have strong militarism, which can be seen in Catalonia.
I unironically have a hard-on for mass movements and totalitarian, ultranationalistic, militaristic states with a cult of personality
Christopher Allen
Obsessed with jihadism and Arabic culture. I love the Salafist/Wahhabist aesthetic and like to listen to nasheeds. All of which is rather bizarre considering I'm a big supporter of the SDF and Rojava.
Lucas Baker
Why? It's fucking garbage, dumbass religious superstition and brutality. I don't see how this can come off as inspiring in any way or shape.
Robert Gutierrez
I listen to burzum and folk metal.
Oliver Lee
no surprise at all
Aaron Fisher
Douglas P used to be a communist. He's probably going to be part of the nazbol uprising 2bh.
Do you have a long windedness kink?
Chase Brown
I have no idea user; I just like it for whatever reason. I know jihadis are really dumb and fail constantly irl; I'm not that stupid to take it seriously. But I just really like the Quentin Tarantino levels of gore and the religious zeal behind it. Really, that's what ISIS' western propaganda is aimed at; edgy and zealous teens in Europe. I guess it's kind of like Holla Forums's obsession with the crusades despite the fact that the crusade aesthetic is really silly and the actual military campaigns failed horribly just like Jihadis being idiotic psychopaths who have no idea how to hold a gun straight.
Guilty as charged. I mean that is what the thread is about after all.
Hunter Green
Very much this. We need quality orators and aesthetics if we want to revitalise mass politics.
That shit always seems whiny to me, like they are mad at the world and really want people to change it for them. I greatly prefer metal that eschews politics entirely and speaks instead to an aspect of the human experience.
Seconding the nasheed sentiment. The more extreme the ideology, they better the tunes in this regard.
Isaac Scott
is this an ISIS advert? Man they really know how to sell things to dumb angry young men. Mixing up the gangster vibe with holy war is fucking genius. They've re-captured what it means to be doing a drive by. Its advertising so good it makes me thing there must be a major western advertiser behind it. If you look at adverts from the middle east, they are not in this style. How many jihadist trap heads do you think there really is?
Evan Brown
It's most likely the British Muslims that have dossed around in media studies that are doing it.
Jose Powell
The video is theirs, but the music is a remixed nasheed.
Mason Bailey
I know Douglas P. is an edgy faggot but the better part of the band's output doesn't have much to with nationalism. "Nada!" has more to do with gothic themes of death and despair, and But, What Ends When the Symbol Shatters? consists mostly of rewritten Peoples Temple Choir covers.
Aaron James
Nick Land is fun but how the fuck can one bear reading Moldbug for more than 10 minutes, much less enjoy it? He's a living embodiment of the angsty revenge-fantasy nerd stereotype.
Juan Russell
Yes militarism is far older, but just as it supported the ruling elites in pre-capitalist societies and the Soviet Union so does it in our current society. As far back as the Kaiserreich in Germany one of the mainstruggles of the left was against militarism and the invenetable jingoism associated with that. We should never forget that the first WW was what buried our best chances of communism in west europe.
Grayson Mitchell
I like posting offtopic shit like this on >>>/leftyb/
Connor Perez
I have Jewish friends.
Brandon Ward
That's the kind of art I prefer all around.
Jose Sanchez
I have Jewish friends.
Jordan Watson
I have white friends.
Jonathan Johnson
No you don't.
Brandon Edwards
New atheist/sceptic type videos on youtube Patriotic classical music, especially choral Overweight SJW women honest to Marx, not even joking
Parker Barnes
Make no mistake, in any real aesthetic or technical terms it sucks. It's not great art by any measure.
It's like eating discount chocolate or watching soaps. The actual artistic quality is not what's important.
Carter Baker
I love Owl City
William Taylor
Yep. Especially tankie.
For sadism and humiliation, I hope.
Adrian Ward
I hear ya. There is something deeply satisfying about that shit.
Xavier Cruz
I really like a lot of enthralling nationalist classical music like Smetena, Grieg, Sibelius
I'm extremely patriotic, with all the awful romanticising of history and thinly veiled ethnic superiority feelings that come with that.
Secretly very proud of my country's imperial past and military achievements
I feel terrible about it, but it's just how my brain is wired, I guess.
Ethan Myers
Same here
Mason Ortiz
I still haven't integrated all the lower parts of my psyche and become All This :(
Ian Robinson
Must suck to be you guys. I have no guilty pleasures because nothing that gives me pleasure causes me any guilt.
Levi Rodriguez
What exactly constitutes a guilty pleasure?
John Allen
I like gulags.
Lucas Gomez
I love shit american junk food. I eat good for fitness but sometimes I crave a burger with some salty fries and have it as a cheat meal.
Isaiah Edwards
Damn she has huge tits
Angel Rivera
Shit that sucks that you like anyway for whatever reason.
Nolan Williams
Burgers are fucking good, at least the gourmet burgers. A thick medium-well mushroom and swiss with an IPA on the side is a fucking treat–grown-up candy.
Ethan Jackson
Of course in the context of this thread, at least as OP originally intended: a "guilty pleasure" is something that you like but compromises the notion of "ideological purity", like being into Fascist aesthetics or being a hopeless consumer for some hobby that is well known for bleeding its customers' wallets dry, like pic related
Hunter Hall
smoking is THE quintessential marxist vice.
Hudson Mitchell
I spent way too much money on my army of Daemonhunters. I had a full sixty Inquisitorial Stormtroopers with the old hellguns and Chimeras and METAL BOXES with Forge World bitz on them. I spents months painting and basing them. I fashioned each squad of stormtroopers as if it had come from a different world. I gave them a supporting squad of Grey Knights in dreadnaught armor and a giant-killing inquisitorial retinue.
Then the Daemonhunters were no more. At least I still have the models, and my Brother-Captain always gets gawkers on the rare occasions when I show him off.
Jacob Lee
Well, we both know feminists are massive subs in bed
Juan Gonzalez
Shitty NSBM like Aryan Blood and Tank Genocide
Ethan Peterson
It's so fucked how you burgers decide how you want your ground beef cooked. Like medium-rare, medium-well ground beef? Nigger just cook it to well done! Just fucking cook the shit.