Reminder

Smoking is inherently reactionary.

funny thing about Venezuela is that it's mostly chavistas and other lefty people dying at hands of literal right-wing terrorists.

people who smoke in public are faggots

I would blow smoke straight into that cunt's face.

Okay, user. I'll just put myself through nicotine withdrawal all day long until I get home so you never have to see a cigarette.

Epic lefty thread m8s.

Where's the intellectual honesty?

yes, please do. i smoke as well but its fuckin nasty and rude

But they're no fun.

What the fuck kind of liberal planet do you people live on?
If I want to smoke outside it's no one else's business.

i live in a city, and motherfuckers smoking on stoops piss me off

Hey that's cool, just don't be alarmed if after asking you nicely to put it out and you refuse that I end up spitting on you. It's just my way of fun.

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If you ever actually do that IRL you're on the fast track to getting your jaw broke.

Right. Seriously. What is wrong with smoking in public?

Some of these numbers are absurd and Unruhe knows they're absurd.

Nonetheless, I appreciate his general point and agree with it.

I have asthma and second hand smoke actually has given me asthma attacks plenty of times.

They are absurd because they are calculated along the same lines as the Black Book of Communism so it's absurdity by design.

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Couldn't you just stand somewhere else?

I'm not sure what it's like where you live but in the UK smokers in public generally all stand in the same place away from everyone else.

user, don't be silly, we all know that it's the bovernment's fault, capitalism is just freeeeee tradez

No, yeah, I understand, but even so, some of them don't make any sense.

For instance, I can't find a single reliable source that the US concentration camps of Germans killed ANYONE and he puts the figure at 1,000,000. That's beyond exaggerated methodology, that's just surreal.

They stand in line smoking away at bus stops. There's really not much I can do to avoid it.

This is because most deaths are because of economic factors and capitalism by privatizing the economy can privatize the blame along with it.

Of course this doesn't really make sense because the system is bigger than the government. But to someone in the mindset of socialism=government, capitalism=individual enterprise it does because it's like a wack-a-mole game where the system is atomized into a myriad of individuals where they can just point to someone else and say "they're going it right, that other person is just crony capitalist" or whatever.

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Fuck off.

Did you know the Black Book of Communism still gets quoted as a source in numerous Wikipedia articles? I think almost all Wikipedia articles about commie-related deaths quote the Black Book of Communism (Holodomor, etc)

It's even more dishonest: They won't even tell you that their number is straight up from this dubious source but only have it down in the footnotes. Nobody ever clicks on the footnotes though.

Right wingers were really grasping at straws when writing that book.

Citation fucking needed.

coha.org/right-wing-terrorism-in-venezuela/

Took me 10 seconds to search it on Google.

mao tse tung killed the most though

cam.ac.uk/research/news/imf-loans-“strongly-linked”-to-tuberculosis

>The Cambridge University-led study reveals that IMF loan programmes are "strongly associated" with large increases in tuberculosis incidence and deaths, costing tens of thousands of lives every year and producing hundreds of thousands of new tuberculosis cases.

Capitalism makes people sick. It kills people and ruins lives.

Convince me to keep reading that drivel.

Even government media doesn't say bullshit like that, they just focused on one guy that was lynched for being accused of stealing (or being a chavista) and blamed the victims of everything else, sometimes saying straight up bullshit like how an opposition victim was "killed by a captive bolt pistol from someone in the opposition" when an autopsy confirmed that he was killed by the impact from a tear gas bomb to the chest later.

1.6 billion seems kinda low tbh

it's literally innumerable

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Why is it hard for you to believe that most people don't like violence to happen in their country and would rather have peace?

I don't know where you are getting this information from.

Hinterlaces is well known for giving bullshit questions and putting them as something completely different on their papers.

When did I say that?
There's no way that people agreed to a question that included "and support talks between the opposition and the government.". You can't call them support talks when neither side wants to listen, that's why it has been done before and it has failed every time.

venezuelanalysis.com/news/13091
vtv.gob.ve/video-del-asesinato-de-juan-pernalete-en-altamira-por-que-la-derecha-acuso-primero-y-ahora-manda-a-callar/
Later:
Official statement from the attorney general: twitter.com/MPvenezolano/status/868528216385912833
el-nacional.com/noticias/politica/ortega-diaz-juan-pernalete-fue-asesinado-por-una-bomba-lacrimogena-gnb_183965
bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-40037515

And your question is completely different from "most victims are chavistas"

Okay, I did not know that.

You didn't but you called it drivel and bullshit, so I assumed you found it hard to believe what they wrote.

Fair enough.

I had never even heard of that incident, but it is common with high profile cases that the causes of death end up being different from what was initially thought. Also, the page that I originally linked has a ton of sources so even if you don't like Hinterlaces or government-owned sources, there are still plenty of others listed there.

I wasn't the person who said that.