Who could have become the american Lenin?

Debs or this guy.

This doesn't reflect on his populary or potential for mass support, but on the american system. It's almost certain that in any country where the people felt more confidence voting for non-dominant parties, like countries with a two-turn system, he'd get more votes.

Obama

tbf Jonestown probably did seem like a good idea at the time

I read an interesting article in Jacobin about how Oklahoma for some weird reason has some DNA of a strong workers movement and that as an explanation for why Bernie won it

And OT how could you use elections as a fair assesements of someones popularity when he literally was a political prisoner in one of them?

I always had this belief, that the Western half of the USA is filled with more comrades because of it's close geographic proximity to the Soviet Union (when it was around of course) and the PRC.

Most Marxist literature, spies, etc. had to make it trough places like San Fransisco, Seattle or Los Angeles first before making the journey East. It shouldn't come as a surprise that these areas that I mentioned are the most welcoming to us today because of it.

I also like to add that the areas I mentioned have more registered Communists that any other part of the USA as well.

prolly some radical thought has entered from Mexico and Latin America as well

a lot of exiled socialists one could imagine

This is a truly dumb take, user.

No it isn't, the East coast is open to the Atlantic and all manners of global trade and yet those states are no where near as left leaning as the west coast.
Explain why?

I have two copies of the Communist manifesto and Mao's cookbook, both are roll marked as being inspected by the FBI because they came into the country during the early 50's and two of them came from a bookshop in San Fransisco, the other one from L.A.

Both on the West Coast

I really hope you're like, 15, or that you're just fucking with me, because otherwise you're probably the dumbest person I've ever seen on this board.

I've stated my point of view, not my problem if your too pea brained and can't come up with any reasonable discussion besides attacking my character with Ad hominems.

Please enlighten me, why is the West Coast historically more left leaning then the East Coast then?

You probably can't, so don't even bother.

Debbs

nice try Holla Forums
that map is from 1912

Surprised he got more vote in Oklahoma then in New England. Also congrats to whatever county in Wisconsin voted for him.

The user above just said that Debs got most of his support in the 1912 elections from the west coast, and unless communists have discovered time travel they wouldn't be able to influence that region half a decade before the Russian revolution and almost four decades before the victory of the Chinese one. It's also important to point out that left-wing literature is not smuggled by boats from communist countries but their rights are legally bought by local publishers and then translated by them, and that such publishers are set all around the map and, more often than not, mainstream publishing houses and not radical ones. And the Communist Manifesto was published in the US in the 19th century btw. Also a little sense of history and geography would tell you that people in Russia didn't go to the east before taking a boat to the US because land transport infrastructure wasn't equally distributed East and West, and if people before commercial flights were indeed sending spies on boats carrying copies of the Communist Manifesto they would just travel from the western ports.

I mean, all of this is just so common sense that I feel like an idiot just for having to articulate. It feels like I'm explaining something to a child. Your entire theory is what a 10 year old would say.

This is not really plausible. The Communist manifesto and other of Marx's work would be published legally not smuggled over on boats.

Also the workers movement in the US developed organically it wasn't spread here by foreign agents.

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