How Socialism Ruined My Country

How Socialism Ruined My Country

can you disprove this Holla Forums?

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dont shoot the messenger

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hurr durr

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SHUT THIS TOPIC DOWN, THE GOYIM KNOW NOTHING

he is refering to left politics/economics

also they were socialists, they just didnt had the enough time to going full socialism

Really makes you think

is like being an astronaut

if you crash going to space, you are still an astronaut

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Being someone who doesnt believe space exists, or at the very least that humans could never go there makes you not an astronaut

or more succinctly

Prager would blame socialism to the economic problems in Brazil, but they mostly come down to corruption which is an issue inherent to capitalism.

They never could and never will, more radical lefties have been arguing that reformism would never end up in socialism and so far they've been proven right: every time a "socialist" party gets to power, it only starts giving out free shit and nationalize some companies, so at best the country ends up like Sweden, a pretty comfortable social democracy and at worst like Venezuela, a social democracy ran by memelords basing on exporting one product.
Party politics were a mistake.

dropped

straw man


the economics problems in brazil wehre not simply caused by corruption

they were caused by bad economic policies overal

watch the video

not real socialism

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also socialism in one country is not possible. you need a global movement to abolish capitalism, nation-states, money, and private property all at once worldwide and create a democratic planned economy with production for use.

tm

Boy howdy, those are some bad economic policies

see the full videos pal

the guy says that it did worked at the start

after that, it went to shit because of those policies that only works for a short time

real socialism has literally never been tried see

I think speaker's actually believes that was socialism, so he's likely retarded, but to the point. In a way he is correct, as "lel state will do shit"-type of capitalism doesn't tend to be as efficient from the perspective of reproducing capital as the "let companies do shit" capitalism. What I wonder is why can't Latin America socdems try to parrot some Euro socdems policies where applicable.

They only failed because brazilain economy had too many trading partners that entered in a recession

Wingers will never stop with the "muh PT" bullshit

I thought that your problem was that they went to space, and not that they are astronauts.

How so? Socdems are not socialists. If you want to complain about the Worker's Party, go to some Bernie worshipping subreddit or something like that but not here please.

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watch the video

The messenger is the message, in this case, you moron.

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Dilma's government would barely qualify as social democratic.
She was just for state-led development policies. If that is socialism, so is the US space program.

Also, a lot of fiscal woes were caused by her tax cuts for businesses.

how can someone be so wrong


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Unless all those conditions have been met, it's just aborted socialism. If a politician says they want to form a socialist government, they are lying and revisionists of Marx.

Fuck he told me to gb2pol how will i recover from this Prager interns bants?

I ain't giving money to prager, please make real arguments or fuck off

That's not how it works, faggot

hur hur prager u

Plinio Salgado was more socialist than that puta

If Democracy Now was the messenger, the message would be different.
Prager U is making anti-commie propaganda, thus it doesn't care about being a good messenger, as long as the message is good enough.
You seeā€¦ They are not only the messenger but also the creators of the message.

Is DN leftist?

We had two presidents that came from a socialist background but have strayed away from the movements to gain popularity and campaign funds. I can call them social democrats if i'm feeling generous.
The rest of our congress and senate still a bunch of neo liberals and conservatives who defend whatever company pays for their campaign, if they are not buisnessman themselves.
Bullshit, all of their "socialist" measures were basic wellfare strategies that are pretty commonplace for most first world countries. Most buisnessman especially bankers got even richer during the last 12 years. And finnaly when Dilma decided to take some more left leaning measures she got her ass Coup'd.
As for the country being ruined. Aside from the last 4 years the first decade of 2000 was one of the best periods in our economic history and the best when i comes to quality of life. During the last 4 years we got hit by international crisis,China bought less steel and Right wing politicians stagnated the senate and congress along with midia fearmongering to justify the coup d'etat. But still even with all this bullshit qualitty of life and economy still pretty much the same they ware last decade.

Muke did an entire video on this

youtube.com/watch?v=57R2vwfZku0

Not him. Like what? I didn't know about this

Brazil was ruined by neo-liberalism and techno-capitalism. Its also an unstable hell-hole with varying climates, elevations and terrains that makes it nearly impossible to effectively govern. Huge mixture of different ethnic and racial groups. Large amount of tribalized, aleatory violence in the sprawling slums that no one did anything about. I don't think Socialism was the problem. I think evil was the problem. Your leaders are evil

COMMODITIES CRASH

fucking youtube kiddies

I am not shooting the messenger, I am shooting the spin doctor.

Is Prager U rightist?