The Fourteen Words are not problematic, to say they are is racist against whites

These are the "fourteen words", which although commonly attributed to white nationalism/supremacy are in and of themselves not hateful. Any group of people has the right to exist, live their lives, and work to build a future for their children.

To say that the fourteen words are defamatory, hateful, prejudicial, or anything of the sort is simply preposterous. Whites shouldn't secure the existence of their race? White children shouldn't have a future? If you changed "white" in those fourteen words to any other race, would it still not hold a similar message? There would be outrage would you ever to publicly say "no, black people should not secure their existence or build a future for their children".

This is the problem. Racism against the majority is still racism. No race should have the legitimacy of its identity or its culture revoked or obfuscated from those looking to observe/appreciate it.

Why are the Fourteen Words so allegedly 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧problematic🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧? There is literally nothing wrong with any idea they state, nor should their principles exclusively apply to whites.

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We don't support identity politics on this board.

And if you want to secure your existence just have some kids.

why don't you just fuck your wife.

>Every race should have the legitimacy of its identity or its culture revoked or obfuscated from those looking to observe/appreciate it.

It might not be hateful but its a dumb short sighted and unimaginative goal, We can do far better than just "make more white kids and keep them alive" weak fucking sauce.

Race is real though. Humanity is not one great big homogenized species, it's several groups of people from several different backgrounds with several different ideas of culture and tradition.

That a group of people who cherish and celebrate their heritage and their history should be forced away from it is a restriction on the freedoms and liberties of being human.

Gee, it's almost as if you can't build an elaborate scheme for an entire race of people on fourteen words alone. No shit sherlock, it's a basic idea of where it all starts - that the white race and its culture are legitimate and no one should keep that from them. All that other shit comes later.

Spooks are not real

Stirner has nothing to do with this, stop shitposting.

Relax fam the only white people that are going extinct are the urban liberal leftoid variety. You'd think they would be more concerned about their breed dying out but they seem to unironically embrace that eventuality. In 100 years it will be a civil war Christian sharia vs very, very old marxist SJW's, La Raza, and the BLM party

Spotted the American. There is no thing such as "White culture". Travel through Europe and you'll see this. Poland, Norway and France are very different when it comes to culture.

You're not wrong, considering the refugee situation going down there.

Even if whites don't have a "culture" per se, why should they be restrained from building one?

The sentence itself is not racist. There is, however, this little pesky thing called "context". The Fourteen Words are usually refered to in a white nationalist context, which is why they got associated with racism.
You can compare this to the use of the swastika, which is also not actually a racist symbol. It mostly gets used in the context of Nazism though, which is why most people consider it to be racist.

Yes, white children should have a future. Just like children of all other races.

Why should Europeans unite their diverse and distinct culture into a single "white" culture? This is not how culture works.

You're conflating nationality with race. Greece is part of Europe, but Greeks are not white. White culture =/= European culture.

They assume white people are going to disappear
So they're just wrong
(And I'd disagree with the statement if it was any group saying it, whites, blacks, Jess, whatever. If you stop having kids idc)

No I can do way better, I can build and elaborate scheme for the whole planet with seven words

INTERNATIONAL

WORKERS

SELF

MANAGEMENT

WITHOUT

PRIVATE

PROPERTY

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But a black person raised in a white family can completely have the same culture and traditions?
And if culture and traditions are so important that they needed to be preserved by political force, than should cultural change be banned? My culture is very different from my grandparents, and I'm still the same race as before

I hope you aren't implying burgerstan is white culture. Better question, what is white culture to you?

Elaborate. This is an interesting point you raise, so I'm going to give a counter-observation.

Securing the existence of a race and future for its children is not built on assumption that the race itself will die out or be eradicated, but as a simple measure of maintenance/management/et cetera.

When you do maintenance on a car or a computer, do you do it in assuming that it's going to break down? When you manage your finances, do you do so in assuming you're going to go bankrupt? These outcomes are certainly things you want to avoid, but are they always the first possibility that arises?

There is no white culture, the thing that are you confusing with white culture is just some kind of romanticized version of "insert some europena country" culture that some conservative white american thinks is worth defending.
Kill yourself. And i'm telling you this as an "european", fuck you and your cultureless shithole, stop fetishizing Europe and the color of your skin..

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problematic NOT EXCELLENT

YOU SHIT FILTER FAGS

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also the whole bit about the guy who coined the phrase going to prison for killing a radio talk show host and all

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics

WTF I HATE Holla Forums NOW

did somoene link us to halfchan Holla Forums again?

spooks

I'm a socialist not a franciscan

>The phrase is often used as a pejorative

wew lad

Socialism is gay and so are you.

You too.

Yeah, people having things that don't belong to the state is such a fucking spook.

Gayness isn't real, user.

I beg to differ, you exist.

its blatantly absurd. a muh fashy white ethnostate wouldn't result in anything except lots of ethnic cleansing and authoritarian repression. And all for a completely arbitrary spectre such as 'race'? why would anyone want that?

It seems like you are against individual self determination and want to impose a single ideology from above

That's almost as low effort as OP's post. I'm amazed anyone is actually trying to argue with him here. Do you people not have better things to do like working or watching paint dry?

Its autism is what it is. You replace white with any other race and it's still autism

Here's some food for thought. No one ever seems to talk about the idea of a black ethnostate on any of these Holla Forums boards. Debate all you like on the idea of a white ethnostate, but what of the idea of a black one?

Every time I try to find stuff about it I keep running into Elijah Muhammad/Nation of Islam bullshit.
or else get beheaded by a sexually frustrated kebab? no thanks.

Why would anyone support any kind of ethnostate?

Why would anyone establish any kind of nation to secure their freedom and liberties?

You don't need a nation for that, but okay, user.

What's wrong with an ethnic group coming together and deciding that they should have their land and their rights? If they want to establish their people as a legitimate institution and part of the world, that's their right and shouldn't be taken from them.

Daily reminder that you are not a citizen of the world and that there is nothing wrong with loving the country you were born in. To love and appreciate your country and its culture/customs/etc. is not to say it's superior to others.

anthromadness.blogspot.com/?m=1
Read a fucking book

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Is all you're going to do just asking questions to yourself so you can answer them and feel good? Go away. Your posts are not only devoid of content, worse - they're boring.

remember 'liberties' means private property and hierarchy for these people. by 'liberty' they mean only the liberty of the propertied class to exploit everyone else. muh white race is just window dressing. Most WNs on Holla Forums are effectively useful idiots for the reactionary bourgeoisie. They would be among the exploited, not the exploiters.

stormfags always like to say they believe in nationalism for everyone and no hate, yet at the same time circlejerk about genociding all the non whites that's why its a problem

Okay then, allow the state to take anything in your house, up to and including the house itself, at any given time without any due notice in advance. Tell me then if you don't think private property should be a thing.

"lol fucking literally who m8 fooken dropped"
No wonder the rest of the world can't fucking stand Nazis.

It takes some balls to steal someone's word and say they're "infesting" your ideology when they use it how it was originally intended.
Go suck some dick with Rothbard in hell like the bottom feeder you are.

WE'RE COMING FOR THAT TOOTHBRUSH WHITEY

Don't forget we're taking that toothbrush, too!

For somebody so up on white culture you sure seem to have absolutely no clue about the history of European culture.

color me fucking shocked

Friendly reminder that the distinction between "private" and "personal" property is almost entirely meaningless outside of the realm of socialist/Marxist rhetoric

These are all Canis lupus familiaris.

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There is so many other options you ignorant fuck

personal property should be a thing. you can have your own house if you like. But why should anyone be able to extract value from the labor of others? why should a small class of rentiers who didn't work a day of their life take most of the value produced by society? propietarians use a normative labor theory of value to justify appropriation, but all labor after appropriation is treated as worthless.

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Even then, you can have common property without a state easy peasy

Pick one.

Because services are profitable and most people willing to work for a living will put their services to use anyway.

Friendly reminder that this is a distinction that predates Marx by over a century and is in no way relegated to the realms of socialist discourse unless you're an uneducated burger

because most people living in a system that works don't give a shit about the nitty-gritty that differentiates two already very similar concepts, property that isn't public/the state's/whatever is just that.

this is ahistorocal though what actually happened was we used to have common culture and then tribes of essentially roving bandits and immigrants decided to start extracting taxes from people and stealing land. When they stole the land they moved somebody else in to work it, when there was a bad harvest and taxes couldn't be paid, the poor fell into debt, when these could not be paid, serfdom. This is the beginning of feudalism and private property. Straight up robbery with some jewry thrown on the end

What even is this post? It's certainly not an argument.

That doesn't sound like a justification for why people shouldn't have private property

Not an argument.

So do you actually read anything or do you get all your political news from imageboards and memes have warped your ideology?

In the US there is. And in Europe. Compared to other parts of the world that are non White. Does not mean all Europeans are the same.

It's not an issue of semantics, it's a real material difference. It's sad how obvious it is when you're arguing with a burger online

youtu.be/eknoQYrgq60

Kill yourself statist

Well it's certainly an interesting tidbit of history (albeit given the nature of this board an its users, I'm taking it with somewhat of a grain of salt) but I don't think private property is a bad thing regardless of how the concept has been exploited in the past.

Before I bother replying: What is private property to you?

No, the argument is that:
1. private property cannot exist without a state, because you cannot enforce absentee ownership without an institution with a monopoly on the use of force
2. private property does not exist in nature. There is no such thing as owning something that you do not use for yourself personally. There is no such thing as real estate or renting things. In nature, what determines de-facto ownership is whoever is using/occupying the thing/piece of land. See pic related.
3. The distinction affects people materially because the source of all inequality is through the private property system. Without the ability to charge rent, there is no ability to profit off of someone else's labor on an object or use of land.

Wait are you the same retard arguing that personal and private property are the same thing? Why are you this retarded? Who made you this way?

How the fuck did you even come to that?

And Nazis see NOOOOOO problem with SLAVIC AND RUSSIAN IMMIGRANTS TAXING GERMAN PEOPLE. LITERALLY BECAUSE OF MUH FEELS AND BEING CONTRARIAN AND THE FACT THEY HELD LAND IN COMMON


You're a dumb fuck. You don't know shit about white people or white culture and yet you parade it around like you're some special edgelord. You literally do not know your own roots, so what the fuck do you have to be proud of?

Property that is not in the hands of the government. This can extend to legal entities or to individual citizens, or anything in between. Personal property is simply an extension of the concept rather than a separate one altogether.

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lol k fag

What is all of africa?

utterly 0% arguments really you should drink a big bottle of bleach later tonight. Make your insides more white

u wot m8

epic troll fam, truly, you got me good

That's what your mom told me last night after I filled her with my white pride.

Glad I asked.

You probably won't have any children if you are this autistic though.

jokes on you my mums black you coalburning kike

Greeks are white.

google.de/search?q=greek people&client=ubuntu&hs=A4D&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi_4M2wtp3UAhWCuRQKHV8OA90Q_AUICigB&biw=1600&bih=806

Biological differences between people from different environments are, calling the categories different people are placed in a spook is retarded.


Capitalism is white culture. Thats why you hate whites so much.

Where do you jokers come from?

White countries.

Please name it. I bet you're actually some mongrel half-breed.

shit mate I didn't expect to laugh so much today

I went to europe recently actually, and there was a definite culture. In the cities of course its all shit skins, there was no culture there. Try living in with the working europeans Achmed Habeembe Jabar Muhammed Killwhitey, and you might actually find that there's something besides the 'progressive' shithole parts of europe.

There are no categories in nature. You are making them up mate. Apart from some island peoples, humans have almost always intermarried with neighbouring tribes and civilizations. This has allowed many genes to spread back and forth over the globe. There is no distinct 'white' or 'black' proto-race and no natural categories. Stop acting like a faggot.

I see you decided to just skip over all my points and move to ones you think you can answer, i'm the one thats pro white culture here

ALL POWER TO THE FOLKMOTE

not surprising. you right-wingers hate dialectics n sheeeit

just lurk more before posting.

you're still a retard who falsely assumed I'm a statist when I blatantly implied that I don't want the state to take my shit.