Leftie Kino Thread

I know Antz was a shitty rip off by dreamworks, but that war with the termites was pure kino.

this is just one random John Pilger video I found, "Conversations With a Working Man", great stuff.
vimeo.com/16962265

Antz premiered in theaters a month before A Bug's Life. They were both movies with similar ideas, but neither one "ripped off" the other. Try looking into the actual production history before jumping to conclusions.

Land and Freedom, about the Spanish civil war. The Wind the Shakes the Barley, about Irish commies during the Easter rising.

Both are by the same excellent director he is terrible at naming films so don't be turned off by the terrible titles.

I actually think Antz is better. Then again… I wasn't a kid anymore when I watched it…

I liked Kes, another Loach film. Captured that sort of bleak England of past very well. (Also topkek at Americans needing subtitles to understand the actions.)
I still think things used to be better.

woody allen but with bugz lolz
Seven Samurai rip-off

Why not show your kids the actual movies they're ripping off? Kids stuff is made to rot their brains.

So, have kids watch Bananas?
Don't you think Woody Allen but bugz is easier for kids?

Stop coddling your kids.

Trying to indoctrinate your kids is one of the reasons why MLM parties often look more like Scientology than a political party

The only parents I can imagine not indoctrinating their kids would be lazy liberals or anarchists.

Do you read your kids Crime and Punishment, before they sleep?

No they have to learn Russian first.

It's a good thing you'll never have kids.

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Rood! :0

Is Snowpiercer actually about how anarchism is a better alternative to Leninist vanguardism? Or is it simply just a film that glorifies revolutionary violence like people make it out to be?

left films
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someone req me some 2017 films already

More of a liberal film than a leftist film

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Uh well the plot is that some guys try to take control of the train (Leninism) but that doesn't work and then what does work is the people who derail the train (Anarchists). At the surface the first interpretation seems accurate.

United Red Army was made by a guy who was active in the student protests. Good shit

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I second Brazil and Threads.
The first one is a great comedic description of 1984-ish bureaucratic society mixed in with a monty-pythonesque twist and anti-capitalist sentiments, while the latter is a surprisingly shocking, realistic and horrifying description of how sensitive our modern civilization is to the weapons it it self wields.

Apocalypse Now isn't even a leftist film, its vaguely an anti-war film. But, outside of that context its a fucking spectacle film, nothing more or less. The SFX budget was the biggest part of that film.

How has Come and See not been mentioned? Best war movie ever made. That scene where the nazi is tell the communists they are subhuman and deserve to die makes my skin crawl. I also get (ir)rationally angry after watching this movie.

Snowpiercer is a quite interessting movie it's about breaking a circle, it is shown at the end that this isn't the first time the rear revolt due to their shitty quality of life and when the main character enter the locomotive he see that they're using the Solow ideas about the replacibility of the differents capital since some part of that machine broke and they're using children from the rear as replacement for some pieces they're incapable to replace . in the end the "vilain" is trying to convice the hero to replace him but to continue the circle of exploitation and mistreatment of the rear of the train. so we got political changes that in the end are planned and goes nowhere and slave labor expanding as the train deteriorate as he follow the same track for years capitalism in a nutshell . and the last action of the main character is to derail the train and to lead the people out of the circle in the cold world and to try to build another society.
Or maybe I'm just overinterpreting stuffs and this is just a cool action flick
PS: it is worth noting that the movie is an adaptation of a french comic that got a second part where the survivors of the crash try to survive to this new world of them.

Hhhrrnnnnngggggggg. Should be mandatory watching if Corbyn wins.

This, Brazil is basically today: inefficient corporatism where work is designed to crush the free spirit of the proletariat and consumerism is at an all time high. Also a police state has developed because of terrorist attacks. It is perhaps the dystopia that holds the most true int eh 21st century.

Brazil is also just plain really fucking good. The absurd comedy is a perfect match for the bizarrely exaggerated society it portrays. Just don't watch the American version because they fuck up the ending in the worst possible way.

That's pretty much the same conclusion I came to; that the main character (the vanguard) wants to seize the train (the state) by overcoming the rooms (class) but ends up being seduced by the villain (bourgeois elite/politicians) into taking control of the apparatus of the state in his image (state capitalism/the tragedy of the USSR).
The detail that sealed the deal on this analysis is the Korean guy pointed to the outside world and explaining how once must look outside of the limitations that the train puts on people.
A very anarchist interpretation but one that makes the most sense to me.

You're definitely not reading too much into it. The layout of the train is a metaphor for the hierarchy of society. Like says, the ultimate point is that ideology (looking within the train) constrains the people. That's reinforced by the education/indoctrination system putting up such a surprise fight. Ultimately they're not trying to keep people from taking over the hierarchy. They're trying to make them think that's what they're doing so they'll be occupied with a fake revolution instead of derailing the whole system.

The Matrix did the same thing in the sequels but hamfistedly.

Just watched this
FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

This actually. Severely overrated movie imo.

I don't like labeling movies overrated. It's a good movie even if it happens to be very popular.

I actually think it's complete trash but was trying to be amiable. Some movies you're just not allowed to dislike so it's more acceptable to say they're overrated.

Yeah, that's the reason I hate that labeling. People just shit on anything they don't like by calling it overrated. I'd rather judge a film by its actual content rather than by or in reaction to how general audiences see it.

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fight club is a pillar of the alt-right in their fucked up wierd ultra masculine compensating for their moms beating them faggotry

The hyper-masculinity of Fight Club is just one small part of it. It's ultimately Leftist to the core since it's literally about an alienated office drone trying to fix his shitty life with consumerism and when that doesn't work by finding support groups that effectively act as a community to cure his alienation. Eventually that stops working and he starts creating a persona of the person he wants to be, at first a strong, masculine guy who does what he wants and who sees the world for how shitty it is, and then eventually changes into a revolutionary who will do anything to bring Capitalism down.

Seriously, half the movie is about the shallowness of consumerism and how weak people are under Capitalism.

To be fair the movie doesn't have much actual content worth disussing.

Stop this. The anti-capitalism themes are a footnote. The movie's a big satire on hyper-masculine culture being an excuse for men to get sweaty and physical with eachother. It's gay propaganda marketed towards repressed edgy teens.

I like how Reddit defaults to the Socialism flag lately, it almost feels like we're being raided.

It does for a film dork. I agree there is no narrative content worth discussing. In that respect it's vapid.

literally Holla Forums vs Holla Forums: the movie

Pure cancer.

nice

The entire plot of the movie is anti-capitalism. The Narrator creating Tyler is because of his dissatisfaction with his consumerist life, while the second half of the movie is about the creation of a insurrectionist cell system to bring about revolution. Workers being apart of Fight Club and their power is a plot point. Sure, there's plenty of commentary on masculinity and a little bit of gay undertones, but it's very much an anti-capitalist movie.

pretty good music too

I've been working on a list.

letterboxd.com/jolawy/list/leftypol-recommendations/

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Isn't Pahlakhaiuhkaikik gay?

nihilist reaction against capitalism does not socialism make. The left does not have a monopoly on wanting to see destruction of society, bourgeois or otherwise.

yes

Chuck said the reason for the gay shit was to distract people from the twist.

Bitter Lake and The Power of Nightmares are far better than HyperNormalisation in my opinion.

Century of the Self is ma fav

Were there any prominent leftist Japanese filmmakers who spoke out against Japanese imperialism and its denial of war crimes against China? Not memeing I'd really like to know.

With a lot of more words this is word of god, read the book. And in fact, it's one of my favorite movies because it mirrors a part of my life, but it's not lefty.

I really thought the 60s narrative felt like a less ambitious godard even though the effect the film had on me as whole couldn't have been without it.

Also the only film I know that makes reference to Stirner

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If you think about it, Fight Club should be like the fucking Bible of the true left.