We have reached the final step of right wing thought. The ultimate synthesis of Holla Forums spookery

We have reached the final step of right wing thought. The ultimate synthesis of Holla Forums spookery.

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sgsep.com.au/publications/economic-benefits-cultural-diversity
nuffield.ox.ac.uk/politics/papers/2005/NLetki_social capital and diversity_final.pdf
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HUMANS VS ORCS
MUH WESTERN CIVILIZATION

DAE harry potter?

THE ONE LARP TO RULE THEM ALLL!!!

you have to completely dehumanize the enemy to wage war on them effectively. Normies I know that are fairly apolitical unironically call muslims barbaric and that islam is a subhuman religion. Third worldists btw are right that any crisis in the West will lead to fascism combine that with any number of false flag attacks blamed on muslims and you have a great recipe for genocide and population reduction

It's honestly revealing how much they idolise fantasy worlds. Plays into the general reactionary longing for a mythical past, free of conflict and internal strife, where all the problems are from the external boogeyman. No coincidence that Jews are/were seen as the sinister "Other" intent on destroying a perfect, harmonious, homogeneous society.

You see it in their love for Ancient Rome, the Vikings, the Crusades and more.

LotR wasn't the "good vs. evil" story Holla Forumsyps want it to be, though. We have shit like an exiled dynast (from a house that hadn't ruled in generations) reclaiming his throne from a hereditary steward who tried to burn himself and his son alive. If Holla Forums tried to apply their "race" reasoning to LotR, they'd have to either embrace the Orcs as brothers or kick out the elves as well.

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it's interesting how Holla Forums is just a negative image of the liberal spectacle of 'tolerance'. Liberal media is 50% substance less saccharine emotional appeals about the reified other being 'good'. The reified other is reduced to a contentless 'identity' that only exists to be 'tolerated' by well meaning liberals, a living totem of 'tolerance'. Holla Forums tells people the reified other is actually 'bad' like it was some sort of profound revelation. In a way liberalism's spectacle of tolerance may end up lying half the groundwork for fascism.

The difference is that the dehumanization is being done deliberately in this instance. I'd say at least a few of the people doing this are aware that it isn't accurate to real life, but the thing is that it's a very good way of affecting the normalfags. They're evil, not stupid. Otherwise Holla Forums would have better memes.

t. capitalist who's throwing his lot in with fascism because he thinks its going to be the next big thing and plans to be on the winning side.

you say that as if it isn't the default response from capitalists when threatened by socioeconomic change

you mean
t. Actuall supporter of fascism

it's a fucking meme you spergs.

memes don't come from nothing

This is brilliant. I love it. Not only does it poignantly reduce liberal arguments to absurdity, but it also maximally dehumanizes the Muslim. Whoever came up this shit is a genius.

not an argument

Irony is sincerity now. You know this is true.

Well I mean, yeah. Its why we survive.


I pay lip service, whatever works. Well I suppose that would make me an "actual" supporter since I'm enabling it. Oh well.

funny how quickly the "nationalism for all peoples" rhetoric dissipates

that's a contradiction you faggot, you mean post-irony can become sincerity.

No, I mean that's what the true supporters look like.
AKA, bourgies that don't want commies to rise, so supporting fascists is a better option. That's what it has always been about.

Obviously. What bothers me is when working class people get duped into becoming fascists.

"It's a meme guyz! It's not like we're gonna kill you or anything!"

t. Hitler, accusing the communists for WW1.

and they say rightists are fear-driven

peoples, not religions.

I do support Arab nationalism and Arab socialism. Nasser, Ghadaffi, Assad, and Saddam were all good boys who did not nothing wrong, and were duly deposed by the Israelis and their American puppets.

What I do not support is Islam and Islamism. Not because Islam is hostile to human rights, of course, but because Muslims have positioned themselves as our enemies and are clearly engaged in a low-level war against us.

There is the possibility of peaceful co-existence with a somewhat secular Arab nationalist. No such possibility exists in the case of the committed Muslim who does not recognize nations at all and is determined to make his religion the sol power in the world.

It's not fear if it's true.


You're shit at being a nazi.

I mean everyone is just lying when they say they're being ironic.

Yeah, you're exactly like Holla Forums, just a hell of a lot more ass hurt than them.

hello, where is the proof?

All I see is some leftist throwing words around.

Don't have any. Just look at Holla Forums memes a lot.

no sorry, you made a universal statement, you have to prove that it applies universally, and you have to prove that it applies to Holla Forums entirely.

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are you American?

it's post irony. They mostly don't even know weather they are sincere or ironic, and they don't want people to know if it's irony or sincerity, a few are sincere nazi retards others are being "ironic" nazi retards because it angers mom and liberals on twitter while the majority is somewhere in between.
It's actually ironic that they ironically worship a green frog of chaos absurdity and irony because their entire existance, beliefs and lives are full of chaos absurdity and are ironic as fuck

no why?

I'm just racist and hate the Jews and the liberals, but apart from that, I do respect other peoples and I'm a socialist.
I'd put on the NazBol flag, but that's a bit too esoteric, even for me.

just curious, i don't know any "normie" with that kind of belief.
were are you from?

You don't know anyone who calls Islam barbaric? They didn't call the Muslims themselves subhuman but said that Islam gives followers justification to commit subhuman acts, but subhumanity is now being associated with Muslims overtly

I hate Jews and niggers even more!

I am winning a war against the Left more than You!

Look at me, Im a Hero!

I do. British btw. It's fairly commonplace even on normie websites.

If you are a socialist why do you align yourself with ideologies that aim exactly at dividing the working class?

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Because he's racist, he just said. Then when you tell him his hatred of muslims is basically racism he'll conveniently tell you muslims are not a race.

and he would be right, muslim is not a race. arab is, you can be an arab and not be muslim.
jesus christ was an arab.

Yeah it's not a race but ofc but then the faggot turns around and posts that a wall is needed to keep out the subhuman mestizos from mexico who are christian

*jew

The hatred basically stems from racism. Hating muslims is the acceptable form of racism these days now that hating blacks is kinda frowned upon.
So you can go much further with it nowadays (like calling for genocide in the name of national security), while simple racism has to be obfuscated with race realism and all the other shit.

Because global class solidarity is a fairy-tale. It didn't work out in WWI, when Marxists predicted that the workers of the European powers would rise up and overthrow their overlords. Instead, they willingly died by the millions - and that was a conflict between ethnically similar nations. It's simply outlandish to suppose that a far more divided proletariat/precariat will be able to unite today. Nowadays, you not only have the division of nation, but also that of race and religion. The Muslims will never unite with poor whites, and neither will most blacks. They are beholden to ideologies that preclude any class solidarity (Islamism and deeply triggering and problematic racism, respectively). The only people who go for the "workers of the world unite" rhetoric are whites, and their refusal to engage in idpol amounts to unilateral disarmament.

Yes: it was a clever ploy from the powers that be to import hostile third worlders into the West, but that problem won't be solved by shows of solidarity of which said third worlders won't be appreciative anyway. We are locked in an ethnic struggle and the best strategy is to go full tribalism.

you guys have been going through propaganda for few years now, don't think every normie on twitter/fb is a real person either.

non-english speaking countries are still neutral.

it was quite amazing to see all those english speaking trolls trying desperately to change the French election outcome.

but ethno nationalism totally works tho look what happens when sovreign countries are free to pursue their sovriegn national interest!


Nobody expects that it would be nice to stop bombing the fuck out of those places however.
Islamism only became popular in the Middle as a reaction to America and NATO bombing the fuck out of those countries for decades now Islamic terrorism is a fairly new phenomenon and a reaction to Western dickwaving

Explain the Rojavan struggle then. ISIS fighters, Nazis… they're just people with some seriously spooked beliefs.

i do, but in a fairly objective debate.
we're far from the 14/88 Holla Forumsype Nazi masturbation fantasy now!.

its more like, "i don't think islam is compatible with democracy or civilization"
not," deport mudslims n' brown people"

No they aren't average working class people in Europe hate Muslims. If Le Pen wasn't a fucking idiot who wanted to exit the EU and didn't make multiple trips to Moscow she probably would have won the turnout for that election was very low as well. Fillion was a combination of Anti-Islam and pro-globalism that is a winning combination in Europe he would have won if he wasn't a corrupt retard

This is a gross oversimplification. The betrayal by the Social Democratic parties of the Second International was a brutal blow from within by opportunists who bought into nationalistic narratives. The existence of the Zimmerwald Left and the Russian Revolution shows how millions of workers did not want war and imperialism. The enthusiasm for war is also vastly overblown. It wasn't even that common among the petite bourgeoisie, let alone the working class, in France, Britain and Germany; see the work of Adrian Gregory, Catriona Pennell and Niall Ferguson. Even within the trenches, men generally were not too enthusiastic. They were mostly conscripted men, who dealt with war with grim humour and nihilism, not nationalistic chauvinism.

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The world of 1914 was a vastly more sectarian, racist and colonialist world than ours today. Workers back then could be bought off with the proceeds of imperialism and somewhat pacified, as in America. But as the general crises of capitalism continue, and the profit rate continues to fall, it will lead to the necessity of proletarian revolution.

alright Holla Forums you can stop now.
your first post was already doubtful, now its just ridiculous.

Oh fuck off maybe I should have said migrants instead of Muslims anti-migrant sentiment is always combined with anti-Muslim sentiment anyway

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The specific tactics of suicide bombings and trucks being plowed through pedestrian zones, but Islam has been an aggressively expansionist religion from its inception. It chiefly spread through warfare and forced conversions, and threatened to subjugate all of Europe in the 8th century. That is not to say that every Muslim must at all times be violent, or that there never was any period of peace, but Islam has a great deal of latent violence which can explode at any time in pogroms, public executions, and war. The West has been poking a hornet's nest for the past 60 years, but let's be clear: it is a hornet's nest. Muslims might have been provoked, but they're easy to provoke in the first place.

Arguably, WWI was not fought for ethnic interests, but was the result of decades of inane political machinations by porky. Many ethnonationalists and eugenicists were against intra-European wars on the grounds that they only destroy a nation's healthiest and fittest members in industrial meat-grinders. They were not listened to by the ruling class.

I'm the first to advocate for a stable Syria and the annihilation of FSA/Al-Nusra/ISIS, but that won't stop all, or even most, problems. The main cause of the simmering ethnic conflict in the West is proximity. If these people hadn't been imported into Western countries, there would be no cultural conflict with Islam (and Islam would have a much better image in the West as well).

Diversity has never worked and will never work. There simply is no class consciousness across tribal lines. While it might be true that the brown people were imported with the aim of fracturing society, recognizing that and advocating for unity with the browns is not a solution, because that unity will never exist. The best we can plausibly hope for is their deportation and a non-interventionist foreign policy that minimizes conflicts. Wishing for a global proletariat state is just a pipe-dream.

>wsws.org/en/articles/2014/08/06/germ-a06.html
Thanks, I'll give it a read.

I fear that it won't. The system has become very apt at pacifying the populace with Netflix, porn, and weed lmao, and VR is only going to make things works. As long as the majority of people in the First World can be provided with cheap entertainment, while the Third World gets curbstomped with high-tech weaponry, the system can perpetuate itself.

i don't have time for your spooked shit opinions or your fallacious debate skills.

It's not, it's just that the powers that be had control of the masses.
As far as I can tell they still do.
Getting rid of the global power elites is the key to a harmonious world but that is a pipe dream.

Sure.
If you are the aggressor and you have far right ideology that doesn't serve the people rather only the rich, sure.

Left wing propaganda is always about "liberating" them.

Oh, and, you're a faggot.

whatever fag if you want believe everything is a-ok I'll leave you to it

fuck off faggot, you're probably the first to tell people racism is natural, well guess what? so is violence then.
i'm watching an election campaign where a politician is getting pelters for saying he'd rather not nuke people, and where politicians are threatening war with former allies over money.

Muslims are nice. Muslism came to my region, saved us from barbaric visigoths and suebies and gave us order, peace and prosperity.
In fact the visigoths and suebis were so incompetente that the muslims conquered Iberia in months.

the answer to the specific question is already is here
the debate is over. and as usual you lose.

You must've misread me there, friend.


"Islam spread through violence" is an objectively true and value-neutral statement. It's not about condemning anybody, I just recognize that these people are quite explosive and thus don't want them around.

Fracture the enemy and there will not be a war.

do to them what did to us.

That's debatable. One of the main reasons it spread so fast in the Middle east was because islam taxation was considerably lower on its provinces than Byzantine taxes and caliphates were actually more progressive at the time than catholic regimes

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sgsep.com.au/publications/economic-benefits-cultural-diversity

nuffield.ox.ac.uk/politics/papers/2005/NLetki_social capital and diversity_final.pdf

To destroy a culture, I would Never wish such a thing against even my worst enemy.

This is extermination.

The Jews destroyed everything around them and expanded

Now they are going after Europeans.

leftypols contribution to web culture

you must be new here.
only people who supported hillary were tourists from reddit

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kek, lurk more fucking faggot.

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I keep thinking about the unironic race realism memes I saw on Holla Forums when I still browsed there.

I can't be the only one who saw the dog breed charts. Golden Retrievers (supposed to represent white people) and pitbulls (supposed to represent blacks) and so on. This is their understanding of human evolution.

Only newfags care about pepe still.
Shit got stale after, "Feels good man".

Fuck off back to reddit you fucking fag

there is no difference.

First time hearing blacks being compared to dogs.

Im sorry You walked into that one.

10/10 would chill with the meme team again

I'd join the so-called Orcs any day of the week.

Exactly this, thank you.

a cultureless mess.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Italian-American_neighborhoods
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irish-American_communities
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Orthodox_Jewish_communities_in_the_United_States
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinatowns_in_the_United_States

200+ years later and people still don't mingle in USA. They don't like each other, nor trust each other. No wonder everybody is killing each other alll the time in there.

Totally untrue, btw. Those "ethnic neighborhoods" that have Wikis are famous for a reason, because they're so unique.

I hate stuff like this.

What an idiot. She will be raped if she surrenders. She will die if she is shot. Literary warrior courage on play for internet activists and foreign donors is disgusting.

???

how did the germans killing the jews or the americans killing the natives work out?
do you think it might have affected them culturally or something?

How could a nation, build on the premise of "individualism uber alles" not hate each other?

I mean… they don't even want to pay taxes for the benefit of all and their "dream" is land for themselves!

NUKE THE US NOW!


Wut?


I guess we should let the Nazis take over Europa in 1939!

"I will win because I have something to fight for" is retarded and insulting to the defeated.

The defeated shouldn't start the war.

Yes user, the world is made up of good boys being good and bad boys being bad, and definitely not just boys with competing interests.

I never said the defeated were always aggressors. History is full of shitty people who won and genuine goods obliterated.

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None of this is real, America is a multiethnic country, therefore this is impossible according to Nazi ideology

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EAT SHIT YOU SMOOTHBRAINED FUCKING RETARD
I HATE THIS SHIT WITH A PASSION
THERE IS NO SUCH FUCKING THING AS A "CULTURELESS" ANYTHING
EVERY FUCKING MEME IN YOUR HEAD IS CULTURE
I DONT MEAN INTERNET MEMES, LITERALLY ANY AND EVERY FUCKING THING YOU AS AN AMERICAN THINK OF AS NORMAL, ABNORMAL, SPECIAL, MUNDANE, EVERY FUCKING ASSOCIATION YOU MAKE BETWEEN ONE THING AND ANOTHER THING IS "AMERICAN CULTURE"
PLENTY OF IT IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER CULTURES
CULTURE IS NOT CHEAP MARKETABLE FUCKING ICONS AND COSTUMES
A PLACE DOESNT HAVE "LESS CULTURE" AS THOUGH THAT MADE ANY FUCKING SENSE TO EVEN SAY IF IT DOESNT HAVE AS MUCH SHIT TO TURN INTO KITSCHY DOGSHIT FOR TOURISTS

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Don't real.

The United States does have a severe lack of folk costumes to stick blonde models into for Nazis to jerk off about.

And to a Nazi, that pretty much the same as "cultureless"

Why am I not suprised, user

i wish there never was such a thing as culture in the first place so spooked idiots wouldn't have excuses to glorious uprising

Have to disagree, until about the 1960s/70s america was extremely segregated, even white ethnic groups like polish, italian, and each were segregated from the WASPs. For example a scots-presbyterian would only marry another socts presbytarian, irish catholic to irish catholic. Although it wasn't illegal for people from european groups to marry other white people (and irrelevant shiting was illegal) it was still slightly looked down upon/scandalous and not as common as you might think.

Someone needs to put dnb under this

That is also true. Luckily, I'm white.

The place where the Sydney race riots happened because Lebanese were systematically raping white girls?
They accept foreign fighters because they're fighting for their lives against ISIS, if that's what you mean. If that's not what you mean, then they're hosting refugee populations from mostly the same ethnic background.

This sort of "diversity" is nothing but a capitalist dystopia in which multinational corporations pilfer the entire world for human capital, and in which both the Third World and the First World is impoverished. All social trust is destroyed by the importation of foreigners who are hostile to the native population, and the people either self-segregate into ethnic ghettos, or become rootless, drifting, cosmopolitan hipsters who subconsciously long for the release of the grave.

They live in a "magical" fantasy world instead of the real one.

Lol

Almost all ongoing civil military conflicts are based on ethnic and religious divides aka diversity. Including the war in Syria

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I suppose Orc's are supposed to represent Muslims, or maybe Muslims and "third world" people in general. But let's remember the notable characteristics of Orcs in LOTR movies:

There are no Orc women and children, just men.

They have no families

They have no culture of note outside of militarist culture

They seem to have no interest in any life pursuit other than soldiering and conquest.

They are in so many of these and other respects, un-human.

So the message of the meme is apparently that we're supposed to treat a billion people (Muslims), or maybe most of the people on the planet (third worlders), as if they are all just a big mindless, loveless, childless, male group of violence machines, and construct national and global policy accordingly.

Yeah, no thanks. That's retarded.

Well yes, that is precisely what the message is.