I have yet to find one crime that Stalin committed

What did he mean by this?

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That Stalin done nothing wrong

Do u agree

Yes.

I find that a bit strange considering the usual Nazi line that Stalin represents everything wrong with Socialism. Do you mind explaining your position a bit more for a curious mind?

The man's a great leader, promoted Nationalism, hated capitalism and showed disdain at the west's fun. It's a shame Hitler and Stalin never met or spoke together (with a translator of course) they had a lot in common and would get on i think.

I respect him like I respect Lenin, Makhno, Che, Castro etc. Still hate that Trotsky fag though

kek D .EGENERACY changed to "fun"

Stalin wasn't a nationalist. He only used Russian patriotism to mobilize the people.

This brings up another question I have, is there really a difference between patriotism and nationalism? I think there can be positive nationalism/patriotism and negative, but I don't see how the two phenomenons are different

Eh, true but I think he thought it was useful at least.


The left likes to bring up Nationalism about "believing your nation is superior to other nations"
This is a lie, as an Australian i have never felt my country superior to France or China, we all have a thing about us that makes us unique and we should preserve that because its cool.

"Patriotism" is just pussy-ass nationalism tbh

Nope

You seem more like a NazBol than a Nazi tbh

Nationalism has a ethnic component

natio (lat.) = volk

Patriotism instead is identifying with the abstract values of your country

More like a Asserite, but i never got into the whole full socialism thing.

More of a state-capitalist, where the government owns all the businesses and hires the people themselves for a good wage. Healthcare, education and housing are free though. Guess thats not really fash thinking but meh.

Yes thats true.
Patriotism is shitty civic """""""nationalism""""""

It's insane how liberals hate Furr just for exposing all the bias and propaganda anti-communist """historians"" are on

Too true. People on this board throw insults at them but I've yet to see any legitimate criticisms of him. Only the German Stalinposter even seemed to have any valid criticism of Furr's work and I thought it was pretty weak, he didn't like the politics of some Russian he quoted in his earlier book.

*at him

He totally was, and it pissed Lenin the fuck off.
leftcom.org/en/articles/2008-09-01/georgia-on-his-mind-lenin’s-final-fight-against-“great-russian-chauvinism”

Tankies gonna tank.

Way to be disingenuous. Lenin was more of a nationalist than Stalin, advocating people's self-determination while Stalin shuffled ethnic groups arround to avoid the rise to national identities. Stalin was Georgian himself so blaming him for Russian chauvinism in Georgia is fucking retarded. It's amazing what kind of double standards people will use when they are being okay with Trotskys idea of Permanent Revolution but when Stalin does it it's somehow nationalism and chauvinism.

Lmao, totally unbiased source. Stopped reading after muh Putin. Why don't you look at what Stalin wrote himself:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/ch06.htm

Why is it that when the topic turns to history that "tankies" are typically dominant and have the upper-hand? It's almost like the other branches of leftism in the West completely live in the moment and are autistically devoted to their pet theories.

Males you think.

*Makes

If the General Secretary does it, it's not illegal.

benis is good

He killed 60 million people you FUCKING ASSHOLE. Where are your morals???

i wish he killed 60 million more. maybe then you wouldnt have been born

Why??? They were innocent…

no one is innocent in the eyes of uncle joe

Explain. Do you just want people to die for no reason? Are you an addicted serial killer or something?

yes

Thanks for helping me understand the mental illness of communism.
You can't be racist if you hate niggers and whites equally, right?

what

False.

Stalin didn't promote nationalism so much as an international socialist identity with Russians at the helm.

You aren't a nationalist lad.

goddamn I love this man

59 or 58 million I don't care
Fuck you communist serial killers

oy vey its anuddah shoah. 60 gorrilion!

Nationalism = nation = your people
Patriotism = patria (fatherland) = your country

While we (still) live in the age of nation states, the two are commonly blurred, they're not the same.

A person can be both a nationalist and a patriot. For example, a Swede who loves both his Swedish people and who loves his country, the Kingdom of Sweden.

A person can be a nationalist but not a patriot. For example, an ethnic German living in Sudetenland in the 1930s - he considers himself a German and loves his German people, but has no love for his country, the Czechoslovak Republic.

And a person can be patriot but not a nationalist. For example, an American who doesn't believe that there is such a thing as American people since America is a country of immigrants and anyone is free to come and make a life for himself there, but who still loves his country, the United States of America.

It's almost like other branches of leftism in the West are desperately searching for a way forward to actually mobilize people, end capitalism and establish communism, while "tankies" are perpetually stuck in the past trying to defend long-dead nation-states and anachronistic forms of politics and economics.

A lot of "leftists" are spreading anti-communist propaganda. Perhaps they should start by stop doing that? In my country the so called "Left Alliance" party is no alliance at all. They systematically purged all communists from the party.

You mean "leftists"? Like one of the "leftist" party in my country which one of the member once said in parliament "You'll see, one day it will be us the radical left saving capitalism".
Fuck you and fuck those "leftist" scum.

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