Tankie Christian thread

John Hewlett was an English Priest of the Church of England that was a strong supporter of Communism and the Soviet Union. He received the Order of the Red Banner of Labour, the Lenin Peace Prize and the Stalin International Peace Prize.

marxistsfr.org/archive/johnson-hewlett/socialistsixth/ch06.htm

And People still claim Christians cant be socialists.

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What is this christian invasion today on leftypol?

Becouse we need to atract a more wide variety of people to the left, and atracting Christians is a good thing.

It's not. Religion has no place in a socialist future.

even if thats so, won't it go away on its own? and if not, who cares, its harmless in a moderate form. Militant athiesm was a mistake of ML/Soviet union, which is why Stalin backed off on it during ww2

You will not stop the peoples crusade, heretic.

The sandinistas prove you wrong.

Are Most Tankies Russian Orthodox Christians?

Now that is some serious ass.

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No.
Hang the priests, hang the imams, hang the rabbis.
Stalin backing off was a sign of the degeneration of the DicOProle.

Militant athiesm isn't Marx's idea, it was Lenins and again its irrelevant to the modern era as the church is no longer a virulent 'anti-capitalist' force that it once was. Quit unironically believing 50s burger propaganda about Communism is all about 'dethroning God' or something, its about economics

*anti communist

Militant atheism is a cancer.

Exactly even more the reason to smash it. Leaving reactionary institutions untouched is a bad idea. You'll never bring people close to communism while keeping them in touch with the p.bourgeoisie clergy.


Good thing Marxism isn't militantly atheist then, it's not an identity like it is with New Atheism. Marxism is a struggle against all bourgeois institutions, including the church. It is wrong to assume religiosity is outside of class struggle.

Not when pisslam is the target

The characterization of religion as a historically specific thing was over optimistic by Marx imo, even after decades of state athiesm, eastern european countries are still religious. Religions take different forms just culture takes different forms under different modes of production, however, imo, the need for some sort of spirituality is an inbuilt genetic need of the vast majority of the population, which is why once you get rid of traditional religions like Christianity, you just get new weird onces popping up to replace it like otherkins, liberal political correctness, technological singularitarianism, etc. At least Christianity has a plausible interpretation of being pro social justice, whereas some of those other things i mentioned are cancerous. Religion is a trans historic part of the superstructure which merely changes form from MOP to MOP. Every society has religious elements, hell even hunter-gatherer societies had animist religions, etc.
Sure there are porky clergy, but theres radical/leftist clergy as well. I mean that could apply to any field, most engineers are conservative, i guess that means we should purge them all but don't be suprised when the bridges fall down. The solution to right wing engineers is left wing engineers not 'no engineers or engineering', and the solution to conservative theology is radical theology and radical clergy. Claiming communism was anti god, anti faith was a key part of turning people against socialism in the 20th century, pick and choose your battles my friend and follow Stalins example in this

I don't mind religious comrades, so long as they don't mind me doing wizard stuff.

Probably, but nonetheless the moral vestiges of religion are what we need to be worried about that hang around after its gone. It's those that are the problem and in order to do away with that we also need to do away with the root. Even if the root will eventually rot away itself.
It's a one-way ticket to last-man city.

And militant atheism was one of the great things about the early Soviet Union. Stalin backed off of it because the church was turning into a fifth-column for fascist invaders.

Well, it seems they are rare af (in my country at least).
Being an engineer doesn't tell anything about your worldviews, but being a priest does. I also don't think, that most engineers are conservative. And engineers do useful job, unlike the clergy.

I didn't realize this was a thing…

religion existed even before class society and some Marxists don't get that and reduce it to nothing more than a bourgeois phenomenon or institution