What went wrong, Holla Forums? This is such an anoying favourite of both racists and anticommunists, you have whole comment sections full of the crisis there being brought up in relation to expropriating landowners and ending neo-colonialism in third word countries. Do you happen to have any sleak infographics to counter this?
What went wrong, Holla Forums? This is such an anoying favourite of both racists and anticommunists...
Nothing. Mugabe's take-no-shit land reform is the only way to combat neocolonialism. It's what the Palestinians should be doing after they win back all of '48 Palestine, and what South Africa should have done once apartheid ended in name.
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What went wrong? Mugabe was a tard and one of the many African nationalists who only appealed to USSR's ideology for the reason of support. He also never implemented any means of economic planning, so essentially, there was no means of replacing or performing the functions of people who were kicked out. He wanted, essentially, the economic system of before, but without those who kept it running.
Also, worthy of noting, is that he, once the USSR collapsed, said that he was never an ML and removed all references of socialism from government documents, saying he was dedicated to free market policy, though still a 'socialist'. He has no ideological basis and even less of an idea how to rule.
Well the typical narrative is:
- whites kicked out
- land reforms
- economy goes to shit
I'm well aware that he wasn't a socialist in any meaningful way. The economy seems to have been doing not too bad though until the late 80s. So what made the country fail so bad after that, even in comparison to most other african countries?
I'm not well versed in Africa, but I'd say that's most likely Soviet subsidies coming to an end and them having no means of sustaining their economy, coupled with Mugabe being a moron and not knowing how to handle the situation.
Nah, in this case it really is all the fault of blacks and the likes of Mugabe they choose. The idiotic colonial argument is stupid like Zizek said and the proof of that is a simple case of asking "how were they before colonisation?". You quickly find out worse.
Also is this fucking board going to completely consist of whining about "muh racists"? Literally every fucking person we worship here from Marx to Che to Gandhi to Stirner etc etc was racist. Fuck off.
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Based on what my grandpa told me ZANLA and ZANU were always corrupt and. He himself was a white socialist in Rhodesia but he hated the socialist movements there because it was all "kill the white man" "everything will become utopia when they are dead". He said the atmosphere was not that of revolution but of opportunity. He fought in the bush war because he would rather see Rhodesia decay under capitalism than starve under the false socialism of ZANU. He left Rhodesia after the war, moved to USA, got involved in a local commune……he wishes he could return to Rhodesia. He has a lot of regrets and memories.
He didn't want the war, he didn't want to leave.
He's dead now but I'd like to think if there is an afterlife he finally got his little socialist Rhodesian farm.
Nah, but I wanna see what everybody else thinks bout this issue. I can tell you bout how Burkina Faso went from a prosperous socialist country to a neo-colonialist banana republic after Comrade Thomas Sankara was assassinated though.
Who would have thought.
So what? National liberation struggles will always be inherently racialist. What the fuck do you think Palestine is about?
You got booty-bothered just because OP mentioned racists talk about Zimbabwe a lot?
He went to a few socialist meetings and was threatened a few times. He wanted to help them but they couldn't look past his race. He felt Rhodesia had room for everyone black, white, yellow.
Idpol was the death of ZANU
Palestine is a spook. "One democratic state" is a meme that needs to die. The best hope for that land would be to racially integrate the kibbutzim and spread that model everywhere, similar to ROJAVA. The holy sites of both faiths should be protected albeit by voluntary democratic institutions.
Basically the story of the global left post-1975.
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Would it have really changed much if there hadn't been deeply triggering and excellent idpol? There weren't that many whites to begin with, and I feel like the bulk of qualified whites would have left sooner or later anyway, looking for better pay or just a country where they wouldn't be ruled by blacks
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i imagine if the country had remained functional most people wouldn't have fled. even then, south africa is mostly a hellhole but most whites still stayed after the blacks took over
For one, the land reform should have been done on a class basis, rather than a race basis. Mugabe gave lands owned by poor whites to black aristocracy, for instance.
South Africa didn't really have a large-scale land reform though iirc, overproportionally much land and wealth are still in white hands. It's surely gotten worse for them, but living standards of whites are still well above the South African average.
that's what i meant; the country didn't fall apart so the whites didn't leave. that the country was now ruled by blacks didn't seem to bother whites enough to make them leave
There is literally a genocide going on there.
Extreme corruption and brain drain. On the one hand, all the land that was seized from whites was not actually turned over to the people, but to regime cronies who acted as absentee landlords. On top of that, they had neither the expertise nor the capital goods to keep running the seized farms.
Sometimes the people who seize power just turn out to be really shitty people without a bigger plan than "now we are the elite".
thanks America for defending human rights worldwide
That doesn't make "Palestine" any less of a spook.
Likewise the Holocaust happened, thus doesn't automatically make YHWH real and Judaism not a spook.