F I V E P O I N T S

so you do want communism

Communism isn't a fucking direction. Lassalle and Bernstein got BTFO over a hundred years ago.

I support the direction of Communism, because I'm a socialist. I think a world without class or state is impossible, and that the working class should control the state.

kys

Until there is an opening for a revolutionary movement you might as well spite the Tories and assorted miscreants. And a Corbyn victory would be worth it for the Blairite salt alone.

Sorry if we aren't enthralled by internal bourgeois power struggles.

ok?

Its also worth it just because the media have fucked him so hard.

I want to see the Guardian U-Turn like the snivelling liberals they are and suddenly be pro corbyn once hes in office

I'm honestly confused, the long hair girl protests the notion that she'd rather have the tories but that's whats going to happen if Corbyn loses. Should have just cut the middle panel out.

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You're a memer who knows litterally nothing about leftism.

It's because LeftComs don't want to admit they're accelerationists.

stop falling for ML memes

Everyone you responded to is me.

How are socialism and communism the same if communism is stateless and classless?

This is what you vote for.

Burgers please go

I would bet a great deal that you have no idea what any of his policy proposals actually entail, brainlet

Socialism is too because it is Communism. Read Marx.

It's like when the "Melenchon is the French Sanders" takes started rolling through the English language press.

I've read Capital. Please explain or refer me to something specific.

Socialism to me means working class control of the state and worker ownership of the means of production. Communism is a stateless, classless society, which I don't agree with or think is within the realm of possibility.

I judge their actuality on their present reality and on the actions of Corbyn and his ilk, not on the half-heartedly constructed sketches of the actuality they ought to entail.

Blarites eternally btfo.

what did he mean by this?

Yeah, remember the time Corbyn was PM and let in a bunch of foreigners? Thank god for the tories.

He just can't win with these people.

Marx uses the terms "socialism" and "communism" interchangeably. What you're arguing for is a perpetual DotP, not socialism.

Marx is not the ne plus ultra of Socialisms. Call it DotP, fine, I call it Socialism.

You seem to be under the impression that this dude has any idea what he's talking about other than having a pavlovian response to seeing "a leftist". So basically your typical Holla Forumstard

That when I look at Corbyn's plans, I do not envision them as the stock images of smiling people for whom Things Can Only Get Better that acompany them.

I do remember the times that Corbyn said they hadn't go far enough in their political correctness, open borders and legal support for foreign gangs (also known as human rights, because only a human has the sadism to rape a girl and turn her into kebab).

A pavlovian response to Corbyn is intentional. The rallies, imagery and sloganeering about "austerity" and the eternal tory are a carrillion to the red dogs whose saliva oozes over comments sections and meme-pages.

So in other words you don't want the conditions making capitalism possible abolished?

Why are you peoples trying to elects anti-imperialists? Don't you know they killed Rosetta?
I'm sure mass immigration and conflicts within the working class will bring communism!

Corbyn is actually NazBol my friend.

Withering away of the state simply seems to be eschatological bullshit to me; no classes similarly age d'or.

Corbyn attracts the immigrants that I want the least. A generous welfare system, acommodation to islam and a weak police force and judicial system that often acts like a protector of gangs attracts the worst of immigrants, as those are in their interest. This is why Sweden is popular with the most undesirable of immigrants, while the industrious immigrants that add something to the nation they immigrate to are repulsed by having to pay and suffer for it.

id/pol/ fuck off

no surprise

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Forgot flag

He's been calling for increasing the number of bobbies on the beat as the tories just cut back on 20,000 police officers

literally feels > reals, the post

This response puts the pol into Holla Forums. Refrain from it if you do not wish for Holla Forums to collapse into itself as Holla Forums did.

It's not a numbers game. If there had only been one moral, capable man to deliver justice, it would have made more of a difference in Rotherham than a thousand more of the same cloth as those who led the tragedy happen.

explain

what?

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Tell that to the tories they oversaw the highest level of net migration into the UK in it's history

I's almost like you can both engage in anarchist activities and politicking and also show up at the polls now and then to vote.

Except Marx didn't single-handedly invent socialism. The monopoly of Marxism/Communism on socialist ideology is literally an ML meme - whether they read Marx or not.

I'm a scottish nationalist and this still pisses me off because you can actually tell when Labour are Tories in disguise.
Granted the last time they didn't wind up that way by accident was 1966, but the point remains.
The only way a Corbyn government would wind up that way is if the Blairites took over.

This is pure capitalist realism plain and simple. 1997-2015? Yeah, fuck Labour. As in, literally the party should be dead for what it did during that period. Now? Well, there's nothing to lose from taking a shot. (Though I'll be voting SNP because lol fptp)

Ignore the facts that labour is calling for increases to the police force and pretending the exact opposite is happening, ignoring the proposed proactive change in engaging with terrorism (you have to be a massive fucking cuck to be an apologist for 2003-style "war on terrorism" type plans), and ignoring that freedom of movement is not a promise of the labour party, in favor of some tired tripe about "they're left so muzzies are flooding in hurr durr"

Typical of id/pol/ really, doesn't matter what's being done about a problem as long as you say the right words and make them feel good about a problem. Mummy May and her party are actually responsible for all the shit you're moaning about but you're projecting onto labour based on weak-ass Holla Forums memes

So yea, feels > reals to you

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Corbyn isn't a bourgeois power struggle, he's an internal party struggle between bennite pseudo-LARPers and Blairite vermin for whom scaphism was invented.
(Though his policies are basically the medicine the bourgs need to take if they don't want everyone to die.)

Theresa May saw the highest immigration in British history. :^)

Again, you're worrying about Theresa "Fuck the Police" May, who cut numbers.

you nigs will never learn…

I laughed harder than I probably should have

I ask again, since repetition can often help with people who have trouble with reading comprehension.

How is the fact that criminal immigrants choose the places with high rewards and low risk feels>reals?

I'm not talking about numbers. Read my post before hitting ctrl+v.

Your condescension doesn't address any of the points I made, and you haven't even demonstrated that labour policy would increase immigration, or make crime more low risk/high reward

So just feels. You can feel free to continue projecting about your inability to read though, reddit spacer

I'd rather not, it's pretty retarded stuff.

just add to the reserve army of labour and make it easier for porky to avoid training unemployed brits out of his own pocket.

We know, you're talking about your feelings. No one cares

Doesn't there have to be some sort of limit on immigration? surely Britain can only support so many people…

Before the 1980s it stood at about 50 thousand a year which I think would be the best amount it worked before Thatcher, Blair and Cameron increased it to insane levels.

labor will probably win more seats, if they are successful there will likely be some ungodly cuck colaition of labor libdems and the SNP to rollback Brexit make cuckodlry mandatory and import a billion muslims

Because your argument that the election of Corbyn would lead to an increase in immigrant crime is bullshit and not based on reality. It was the Tories' policies that lead to increased immigration and it was the Tories who cut the police budget. Your only argument is that more criminal immigrants will come because Corbyn calls himself a socialist.

Yes, let's have the entire world population live in Britain, because that's what leftists are arguing for. Not that it would make Britain any more of a hellhole than it already is

No. The facts don't support it. There was more immigration under May, first of all.
Second, Corbyn has reached agreement with Labour MPs to end free movement in a possible Brexit agreement.

source: theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/25/labour-leadership-agrees-truce-on-immigration-policy

From manifesto:

both the tories and labor are shit but you are a faggot

Notice that under Labour there was net emigration except for a brief moment in 1978.

Notice that under Thatcher and Major, immigration started to climb again, passing 50k net under Thatcher (considering Powell thought 50k in, regardless of how many were leaving, was mad absolutely mad, it's worth keeping this in mind.)

Also see it kept climbing under May, even though if you buy the memes New Labour were literally sending out search parties to find people - yet she outdid them.

Blairites are Tory-lite, fam

Corbyn is more pro-Brexit than May is, cuck

When Holla Forums sends their people, they're not sending their best

Daily reminder that it was Wilson's Labour government that limited immigration during the relase of the White papers. No other government has brought a legal act through limiting migration in such a way.

Leftoids still think it's the socdems themselves, not the limits of social democracy, that fail. Let's enjoy watching the spectacle unravel from the comfort of our armchairs and spectate guaranteed failure and disappointment.

Fuggen saved.

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Apologize

I mean, voting is ok but don't pretend it'll really change anything. Actively participating in bourgie politics makes you a supporter of the existing order.

Stop posting this retarded image, succdems are not welcome.

I think you meant Mission accomplished.

I didn't address any points you made because they're a red herring. I asked why it is feels>reals to state that criminal immigrants choose high rewards and low risks, you did not addres this and instead went on a pavlovian BUT THE TURRIES rant. Even if everything you state in your post is correct, it still doesn't demonstrate how my post is feels>reals anymore than stating that water is wet does.

Which explains why /lefypol/ prefers those who commit rape over those who harvest it.

The dependency on migrant labour is not a matter of replacement anymore in Britain than it is in Dubai.

Is this an ironic meme or are you actually this emotionally challenged?

My argument is that Corbyn is a staunch supporter of the political correctness that makes the judicial system and police unable to deal with criminal immigrants. Even if he proposed a bobby on every street corner and a camera on every street light, it still wouldn't make a difference if their hands are tied behind their back.

This but unironically is a perfect summary of most of this board.

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i only care about Brexit Corbyn won't get enough to from government by himself he may get enough to form a cuck coalition that will block brexit and cancel the entire thing while being a cuck on immigrration anyway while May will not cancel Brexit this is a very simple equation

I remember you kikes being all excited about Francois Hollande being a socialist once you are in power you will be a neo-liberal kike anyway so just relax about muh Corbyn

Corbyn will never run
Corbyn will never get elected by the Labour members
Corbyn will never find any frontbenchers
Corbyn will never hold on to power
*Haha, Corbyn*
Corbyn will never win re-election
Corbyn will never win re-election with an increased majority
Corbyn will never bring the party out of debt
Corbyn will never sing the national anthem
*Bahaha*
Corbyn will never come back from 25%
Corbyn will never prevent the LibDems from becoming the new opposition
Corbyn will never support Article 50
Corbyn will never support a GE in 2017
*Ahah.. ha..*
Corbyn will never support Trident
Corbyn will never support hard Brexit
Corbyn will never pledge to abolish tuition fees
Corbyn will never fully cost his manifesto
*C-Corbyn?*
Corbyn will never breach 30%
Corbyn will never win over the working class
Corbyn will never win over Liberals
Corbyn will never win over Conservatives
*CORBYN NO*
Corbyn will never win over lost UKIP voters
Corbyn will never bring his party ahead in approval ratings
Corbyn will never gain after Manchester
Corbyn will never rally the North
Corbyn will never close the gap to 5%

You are here

Corbyn will never breach 40%
Corbyn will never force May to debate
Corbyn will never breach 50%
Corbyn will never win the general election
Corbyn will never be PM
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
Corbyn will never reverse tax and spending cuts
Corbyn will never establish a National Education Service
Corbyn will never renationalise the rails without compensation
Corbyn will never federalise the UK
Corbyn will never provide free heating and solve the ageing population by setting all the old people on fire
Corbyn will never get a good Brexit deal
Corbyn will never dismantle the EU
Corbyn will never cement the channel tunnel
Corbyn will never abolish the monarchy
Corbyn will never declare himself Chairman head of state
Corbyn will never send the SNP to the gulags
Corbyn will never send Dianne Abbott to the glue factory
Corbyn will never blast mummy May out of a howitzer
Corbyn will never detach the UK from the sea bed and turn this island into a giant battleship
Corbyn will never use said battleship to spread the revolution to other countries
Corbyn will never "nationalise" Europe
Corbyn will never "nationalise" Russia in the winter
Corbyn will never "nationalise" the USA and China
Corbyn will never "nationalise" outer space
Corbyn will never make anime real

Agreed
No. It doesn't mean that anymore than buying things mean you support capitalism… Literally the same shitty argument.

independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservatives-election-campaign-relaunch-party-lead-polls-cut-labour-theresa-may-jeremy-corbyn-a7756976.html

When has he ever spoken out against it?

Wanna know how I know you're retarded?

I mean socialists in general, you probably were as well

hi rebel

Has he ever spoken out for it?

I remember seeing any socialist being really excited about Hollande.

oh yes they were, it was the years were you thought you achieved total ideological supremacy and that soon the great pozz wave will sweep the West with muh OWS and Obama getting re-elected and Hollande, with Syriza getting second place and the main anti-EU opposition being kiked leftist groups, and the SJW movement was just getting off the ground which only became unpopular among leftoids of your ilk after 2014

Yes, he's probably the most politically correct member of the labour with his support and apologetics of the numerous islamic groups he associates himself with.

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he just made a speech where he said that the shitskins attacks are the fault of British foreign policy which is a typically cucked thing to say and wants to establish a dialogue with ISIS the faggot also said that the death of in Laden was a tragedy

I think you're looking for /liberalpol/ mate. Just browse the rest of the board, tons of people here even criticize Corbyn and he is nowhere near the others you mentioned. Same thing happened here with Syriza btw.

All these things are unironically true even if you don't like how they sound. Feels>reals strikes again.

Probably a made up claim, but i the is assassinating anyone in the works at any time with no due process is fucked

*World

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3191679/Jeremy-Corbyn-caught-video-calling-Muslim-hate-preacher-honoured-citizen-inviting-tea-terrace-House-Commons.html

spectator.co.uk/2016/01/jeremy-corbyn-and-the-hard-left-are-wilfully-blind-to-the-evils-of-islamist-nazis/

express.co.uk/news/uk/603319/Fury-at-Jeremy-Corbyn-backing-for-extremist-Muslim-charity

All fake lol

no I don't like how they sound, it sounds fucking stupid after a terrorist attack anyway and is bad politics no matter how cucked you are the reals is that corbyn likes terrorists doesn't like the police and he said that the current rate of immigration into the UK is just fine and not too "high" and that he won't do anything about it so just because he's willing to suck terroist cocks doesn't mean that they will stop blowing shit up just because he asked them to

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Alright fam, have fun with your feels

ok fam whatever you say

And this is how the soviet union became paradise on earth, because all who stated differently were obviously capitalist imperialists who could not be trusted.

theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/31/jeremy-corbyn-said-osama-bin-laden-should-have-been-tried-not-killed

is the guardian pozzed enough?

Fam, all those newspapers are right-wing, and so are their readers. They're obviously gonna do their best to smear Corbyn, especially considering they have a stake in the election.

No. Blairites.

Nice soliloquy, doesn't change your fake news

BTFO

You're such a dumb faggot

No, I wasn't excited about hollande and no one except retards like you ever thought he or obama were socialist

Obama is a pozzed cuck who is as close as you will ever get to anything done within a liberal democratic electoral system it's not like you kikes have the ability or the skills to stage a Marxist Leninist uprising

The video in which he honours Sheikh Raed Salah is a very good forgery indeed then. What software did you use to determine that it's a forgery?

The same to you.

I didn't even post news, much less fake news

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lol what a bunch of low energy fox news faggotry. No one with a brain thinks Obama was anywhere close to achieving anything leftist. He wasn't even a social democrat. Where are the smarter nazis? There used to be some around here who had some idea of political ideologies and didn't just talk like this:
youtube.com/watch?v=r4AvZZ0RWlg

what
what

he should've been captured for intelligence and historiography or made to shoot himself.

Just more feels and ad hom. Sad!

this would actually be understandable and dependable if it was Assadists and Nasserists and Ba'ath party supporters blowing shit up as retaliation for Western foreign policy but ISIS supports overthrowing muh secular arab nations and it supports blowing shit up in the West so there is now way to coddle them and soothe their emotions because if you stop western foreign policy then Assad wins and ISIS gets angrier

No I didn't you illiterate imbecile. I said that it won't be a high reward low risk system and demonstrated why, and you did nothing to disprove that. Just because you FEEL it will be a high reward low risk system under labour doesn't mean it will be, cuck

we fucking know you faggot

Stabilize the Assad regime and ISIS get barrel bombed, you fucking idiot.

made me think

Corbyn is too cucked for that, if he actually placed the blame on ISIS on Israel and America and called ISIS tools of Western foreign policy then he would not be a cuck but as it stands he's blaming the poor terroists who dindu nuffin who need to be negotiated with

He implemented a heritage foundation healthcare policy, bailed out the banks, and promoted imperialism in the middle east. What taste did we get? You're so fucking stupid it's embarrassing. Send over your asserists who at least recognize capitalism/socialism next time you're a fucking disgrace

what did he mean by this?

Literally nobody in the entire world, let alone the MENA states, is officially willing to go to bat for them. We could just set up a regional taskforce to flatten them in a week without any meaningful blowback. They're more politically isolated than the LRA.

The only significant issue is "how and when will the Syrian Civil War conclude?".

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embarrassing

ISIS is a mercenary army that is recruited in and employed and funded by the kikes in Saudi Arabia Qatar and Israel and exists with either the tacit consent or direct approval of the West and nobody wants to talk about that and nobody wants to deal with that, everyone wants more immigration and to explain away ISIS as foreign intervention implying in a roundabout way that ISIS is retaliating for the west bombing shit in Muslim countries as if it's a victim or someshit when ISIS directly benefits from the West bombing shit and is not a victim but a beneficiary .

ISIS started because of the Iraq war

Like I said, every single government in the world is officially united against them. If any major global power decided to fund a regional alliance to exterminate them, nobody would be able to make excuses to avoid joining.

they unironically do. You don't own the term "left" cunt the term "left" was around since the French revolution 95% of the left want welfare you are just a bunch of edgy cunts on an anonymous Mongolian backyard rape subforum

Do you know what the heritage foundation even is? How can anyone hang out on politics forums all day and be this politically illiterate?

By not funding the Saudis and selling them weapons, by stopping bombing the shit out of Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and all the countries the cappies have consistently fucked over and prevented from forming stable regimes, maybe the region could rebuild and ISIS and the other extremists would be exterminated and drained off their membership who wouldn't see a reason to join a death cult and kill suicide bomb.

Then I guess you won't mind when we lump you in with neocons and cuckservatives (not that that's actually inaccurate)

Heritage foundation is another commie cuck organization funded by soros

Tell me about the John Birch Society

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For the last century 'left' has meant communist, not liberal. Only the burgers are so retarded as to think otherwise because they've been convinced that their two shitty liberal parties represent the entirety of politics.

you can't seriously be this retarded. no one is this retarded

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If Soros is a commie, then Merkel is a Nazi.
Please tell her to be less retarded for me

Just as cucked, infiltration to secretly install the next socialist dictator in america after Obummer

That would be far-left, which doesn't mean communism necessarily.

reform tends to pacify any revolutionary desire. People's wages go up by a dollar and they get some service or another paid for by the government (which actually just means it's paid for by their taxes so they're not even getting it for free) and suddenly they don't care anymore that their labor is being exploited, that they have basically no control over their lives beyond some very superficial choices and that the decisions of unelected CEOs are slowly ruining the planet.
Also, it grows the power of the bourgeois government. That's bad on it's own.

I don't see how people can still think this in 2017.
Donald Trump did more to grow the American radical left in 2 years than Noam Chomsky has in 20.

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lol are you 15 or 75?

Until the CIA goes away, revolution outside of the west is as unlikely as ever. Britain's role in geopolitics in the modern day is a C+ at best.

yeah who very radically wants to bomb Assad and have a cold war with Russia and unironically believes that Trump is a russian agent.

Capitalism isn't a broken system that needs to be "fixed" any more than Feudalism was. It's a system that needs to be gotten rid of. "Fixing it" is a fool's errand supported by porkies who want to keep their positions of power.

If you actually think my point is that Trump is a communist, you're a massive chode. My point is that shitty governments wake people up. A communist should be voting for the worst, most incompetent governments there are so people see how rotten this system is. If it's someone like Hillary who is clearly both evil and smart, someone who's going to keep profits high and class consciousness low, then sure. Vote against. If it's someone like Trump who's going to give socialism a massive free platform but is also too blunt and inexperienced to carry out his goals competently, then fuck yeah, color me an accelerationist.

Of course america leads but they rely somewhat on their allies gargling their balls unconditionally as well. Anything to throw a wrench in it is good. Also, I did say unlikely

excellent so I expect you all to vote and support he conservative party in the UK

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I'd say they're a bit too competent. I'd vote UKIP honestly.
It's no good to vote for a competent but bad candidate. Someone who knows how to keep things running smoothly and keep the working class pacified is worthless to get into office.
If there is a categorically awful porkie candidate to elect, elect them. Otherwise, try and get someone at least half decent in office.

How do you feel about voting for Cuckerberg in 2020?

I'd rather re-elect Trump. Zuckerstein clearly isn't a moron, whereas Trump is an inheritance baby who fails whenever he ventures outside of the relatively safe market of high-value real-estate.
The fusing of the economic and political ruling classes would certainly start to wake people up, but Zuckercuck really wouldn't accelerate very much.

Yeah but Trump is only "radicalizing" people to wanting Trump out as if he's corrupting an otherwise good system. Sometimes I think Clinton was the real accelerationist option. No one thinks she isn't tied to the establishment, and her failures are openly the failures of the govt.

accelerationism doesn't work. people are never going to spontaneously see the cracks in the st you get is people spontaneously realizing Labour are shit and voting SNP.

If Thatcher and Blair taught us anything it's that accelerationism is a meme. All it does is make suicide a very tempting option.

Give government the whip hand over corporations and it's the government who plays top in the bed, eschewing corporate interests for votes. (While obviously still ensuring overall class interests and structure are maintained.)

fucking shitty keyboard:
spontaneously see the cracks in the system, the best you get is people…

cuck please Karl Marx supported free trade as well and believed Western spread globalism at the time would cuck every other country civilization and culture supplanting all good things with Western capitalist shit until there is a point where Capitalism is replaced in the West and there is some uber pozz global socialist Star Trekkian faggotry which is what Soros and his ilk of globalist jews want they just didn't appreciate the backwards and authoritarian model of the USSR and want a more advanced globalist model of capitalism and globalism supporting all the social justice movements that co-exist with capitalism and globalist supranational institutions that bypass countries, cultures and traditions trying to concentrate power and decision making in institutions that exist above nation states which is what all social democrat parties and far left parties in the West ultimately want with some caveats Soros is very comfortable supporting both Syriza, Podemos, the five star movement etc:

thesaker.is/george-soros-open-society-foundation-unmasked-in-a-major-leak/

en.protothema.gr/syriza-silent-over-party-member-links-to-soros-foundation/

along with shit like the TPP but is only threatened by far right groups and states that are trying to assert their independance, leftists and Marxists are fine with this since you believe that with the victory of capitalism and globalism that it will collapse in on itself and that you will take power some time in the future because muh book said so

succdem pls leave

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post it to /r/neoliberal lol.

Jesus fucking christ is that unironic?

i'm not really a socdem, i'm just a mixture of socdem history and major depressive disorder.

Marx did not believe in free trade. This is garbage.

mailstar.net/classwar.html

Holy fuck it's like the globalist kike agenda word for fucking word

I can't tell if you're being retarded on purpose or if you actually believe what you're saying.

Marx only supported free trade on an accelerationist basis since he believed that it would hasten the collapse of capitalism altogether.

you're taking it out of context.

Marx and Engels took part in debates about Free Trade vs Protectionism around 1847. In the debate Marx came down in favor of Free Trade for the reasons stated in your quotation. Capitalism had not yet expanded to conquer the entire world and still had a progressive role in history (revolutionizing the means of production). So Marx favored the expansion ("acceleration" some call it) of Capitalism, knowing that its internal contradictions would inevitably lead to its downfall.

However, Engels writes in his 1888 preface to the pamphlet "On the Question of Free Trade":

The question of Free Trade or Protection moves entirely within the bounds of the present system of capitalist production, and has, therefore, no direct interest for us socialists who want to do away with that system … Whether you try the Protectionist or the Free Trade will make no difference in the end …

This is a later and more mature view. Capitalism was taking over the world and Free Trade had become the main policy of the bourgeoisie. Engels expresses something we all should be familiar with; bourgeois debates are constructed in ways not very helpful for socialists. Whether Free Trade or protectionism does not concern us in principle. Both policies are designed to assist the bourgeoisie and their accumulation of capital. So, as Engels points out, it doesn't really matter which policy Marxists support. Correctly, he states that Free Trade will win over the bourgeoisie anyway and ultimately (for the bourgeoisie) capital must accumulate no matter what.

So the pure Marxist position, to put it bluntly, is 'neither Free Trade nor protectionism, but Socialism'. If a bourgeois question is put to society, we argue for Socialism above all else. If it is a forced choice of A or B, then it will be the mood of the working class that determines whether we advocate A or B (our position becomes more tactical). If the majority of the working class leans towards A, then we say 'A, but Fight for Socialism!' and the same if they lean towards B.

So for this particular example, the answer would be "Oppose EU, Fight for Socialism!"

lmao

Why are you all living memes? Everyone knows the manifesto and his other earlier work is edgy, unrefined trash. Once again you know way less than you think you do about a topic

Also that was in an address not a written book by Marx
Lrn2read

Well what a fucking shame that is I bet you're all very upset it hasn't happened yet.

I just fucking said that Marx supported free trade as a means of accelerationism of the capitalist world takeover.

That's not even what the quote implies. How do you get btfo by your own out of context quote this badly?

He thought that free trade would create the conditions in which the workers would be more likely to revolt and overthrow capitalism you autistic faggot.

That's exactly what it implies you fucking kike. It's also impled in your book

The implication here is that Western capitalism is in the business of destroying culture and nations and drawing them into "civilization" which is globalism and the faster it spreads the faster you think capitalism will collapse and be replaced with free shit

so he supported free trade which is what I said no need to be triggered about it

imagine being this clueless
The idea is that people figure out how much capitalism is fucking them over and destroying the culture, relationships and lives and organise to exterminate the capitalists and take control of their own lives.

This is picking a quote out of context. Read the whole statement. It was conditional upon many things.

nope, according to your view of history Western capitalism is a progressive and civilizing force which will enlighten all the barbarians out there and then when the take over is complete and everyone follows the western model of capitalism at which point all of you faggots will agree that you want free shit and decide to overthrow the system, since the process of globalization is still incomplete and a revolution hasn't happened this is still in motion so while you dream of history moving according to the plan laid out in the book the globalist kike is laughing all the way to the bank and is busy destroying national sovereignty and cultures across the world

fuck off

No it isn't you fucking monkey. It literally says in the quote it will "break down the nation state built up by capitalism". This is the opposite of "creating a capitalist world take over". You are so fucking dumb holy shit

No Reddit it literally does not say that. It literally says that the spread of capitalism is progressive thing.

Marxism proved to be shit but Marx's critiques of capitalism are still the GOAT

That's what Marxism is

Capitalism builds the productive capacity while destroying culture/individuality/social relations.

You cannot stop this by going the protectionist/nationalist route. Your policies will fail against global capital; as did with Hitler, as will with Trump.

The point is to take back from the """globalist kikes""" what was build with human labor and organize it in a way that benefits the working population.

While you nazis recognize that there is a problem in the world, you merely want to shift the control of capital from globalists to nationalists. The nationalists don't really care about you or the white race in general, they just want to fuck over the working population.

I said that even Marx favored free trade as a means of accelerationism here and got jumped on by a herd of rabid autists for no reason.

Yes I know that you think that it cannot be stopped. You see your culture and society being eroded your national sovreignty being supplanted and you just say "hurr moar progress! This means free shit is one step closer!" when it really isn't all you'll get is a dystopian shithole it at the end.

You're conflating Marx predicting what would happen under capitalism with him generally supporting free trade in your first post. That's simply not true. Also free trade isn't capitalism, that existed under feodalism as well. Marx is talking about private property and commodity production, which would still exist even if you restrict free trade.

only in theory

Because Marxists don't draw theory from addresses he gave around 1847 dumbass. Read Capital or fuck off

No dumbass, you're wrong. Learn to read and project about your leddit tendencies somewhere else.

I can't tell who's trolling who in this thread but it's full of autism and really obvious baiting. Cut the shit