Seriously we need to kill the global center left. I don't care who we have to align with to get it done. It needs to happen. They just won't fucking go away.
Alexander Moore
Good, anything but Le Penis
Aaron Myers
Clearly the global ruling class wants Macron to win. That doesn't mean the election is a foregone conclusion though.
Ryder Evans
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Jose Cruz
Yeah of course burger neo-liberals want him to win, but that doesn't mean that he's going to. We're just going to have to sit and wait
Nolan Barnes
No they didn't. They had to later make it succumb to their will, but not they didn't.
Josiah Powell
1. Le Pen vowed to get France out of the EU.
2. Le Pen vowed to get France out of NATO.
3. Le Pen vowed to give Assange and Snowden asylum.
William Morgan
Wew
Angel Bailey
The NF only cares about one thing and all other stances are changeable Just a few year ago they were very to the right economically
Jordan Wilson
And Trump pledged all kinds of things too. Let's see how long that lasts.
Levi Gomez
Really now?
Caleb Edwards
France isn't a NATO country since the 70's iirc
Grayson Thomas
France has re-joined NATO since 2009 under Sarkozy.
William Nguyen
France is a core member of NATO, are you high, user?
Joseph Gomez
Seems pretty good honestly. It's a shame about the racism though. I hope Melenchon pulls through. NPR was desperate enough to run a piece on him today. Kind of weird that they called him "far left."
Charles Gonzalez
They led the NATO strikes in Libya.
Jaxon Robinson
Please tell me how pro-EU Neo-Liberalism mixed with privatization and foreign internationalism is Leftist. I will Wait.
Aiden Miller
The ironic nazbol is right tbh. I think most people on here would prefer the accelerationist choice then a neoliberal
Grayson Taylor
DAMN, BASHAR AL ASSAD LOOKS LIKE *THAT*??
Kayden Russell
This. By weakening the center left you empower the actual left.
Anthony Scott
Neoliberalism is a accelerationism you fucking dipshit.
Is there any source on it? Honestly I doubt Melenchon would be ballsy to oppose The Empire like that, much less Le Pen, I just don't see how it relates to her voterbase, right-wingers in france don't watch Alex Jones.
James Bennett
racism? is this board that cucked?
Sebastian Anderson
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John Foster
I recognized him before looking at the filename, is that bad
Cameron Peterson
Racism has no place in politics, especially in an imperialist country like France.
Ethnic nationalism is not the same thing as racism. Also France, as a former empire and current neo-imperialist power, doesn't have the right to claim French clay for its own "people."
Christopher Rodriguez
Ok. I'll take the bait. How are they different?
James Rogers
Le Pen will do exactly 0 of those.
Jesus fucking christ it's like you people never learn.
Alexander James
No, I did the same. It only made my erection stronger.
Elijah Green
That's the point you moron. It demoralizes the right while also weakening the center-left consensus, thus giving the far-left an "in."
Evan Roberts
America has meddled in French elections before.
Chase Hughes
Le Pen is a populist, her party will compromise and change positions on literally anything as long as it gets people on board with their paranoid social agenda.
In practice they just settle for the same neoliberal status quo and tell police to annoy migrants once in a while.
Carter Phillips
I've heard that shit for twenty years and it NEVER worked. Keep doing it I guess. also
Caleb Mitchell
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Christian Foster
The center/center-left has been in charge of the west for like 30 years. Lesser evilism is a pro-neoliberal position,
Hudson Garcia
You cannot demoralize the right, they are lemmings. They literally do not operate on reason and are proud of that. All that matters to them is that "their guy" gets elected so they can feel powerful. Trump is a perfect example of this, even paleocons are starting to despise him but his autism hat supporters still defend him at every turn because they don't actually care what he does.
I'm not defending the liberal baguette that got elected, but nevertheless.
Parker Hall
How fucking new are you people?
Jaxon Anderson
Not the guy you were responding to but Racism implies discrimination. You can have an Ethno-State without discrimination. All you need to do is advocate for the majority to have equal rights to minorities. If everyone is equal demographics have no reason to drastically change. The Ghettoization of Western Countries has been incentivised by the extremely wealthy as a form of Class warfare.
Logan Ortiz
Also not all NazBols are pro Ethno-State
Brandon Thomas
you're having that discussion with someone else, not me
pic related, guy who demoralized the right while also weakening the center left consensus except not.
Michael Morgan
If this sort of society actually existed, most nationalists would call it cucked by the Jews.
Kayden Collins
why do you need an ethno nationalist state anyways
John Jackson
Ok. Let them feverishly scream cuck into the night for eternity as the great NazBol Utopia bring peace and love to all.
You do not need it but an ethnically homogeneous society will function better as a collective and eliminate most types of idpol.
Jeremiah Long
Berlusconi was a centrist (center-right to be exact.) What's your point?
Sebastian Campbell
That's a logical paradox, how can you eliminate identity politics through establishment of a state, the existence of which is fundamentally dependent on the politicization of identity?
Anthony Robinson
agreed
Angel Butler
if it comes to the second round we must do what the left has been doing for centuries, bite the bullet
Jace Reed
I think the logic is that once everyone has the same "identity" then things like class politics will come to the forefront and society will be better able to reform itself and/or prevent itself from sliding back into capitalist decay. I'm not a big fan of non-slavic ethnostates myself though. Not that guy btw.
Evan Evans
He was constantly in bed with the italian equivalent of Le Pen. In fact, without Lega Nord Berlusconi wouldn't have won a single election, except maybe the one in 94.
That you're not very good at 389 dimensional Munchkin.
Eli Foster
This
Also, The Ethno-State is not enforced by anyone or anything. It is natural. People (As a whole) naturally move into groups that are similar to themselves. It is what Humans did for thousands of years.
Jordan Phillips
Oh and with literal fascists too.
Matthew Cooper
But why does this "identity" need to be ethnic? People can find unity in something beyond race or ethnicity.
Colton Johnson
Neo-liberal candidates like Hillary or Macron don't really do much to turn public opinion against neo-liberalism. Have a reactionary face on neo-liberal policies though and suddenly it becomes much more unpopular. Why are tankies always so dense?
Nathan Robinson
It is very difficult to cheat French elections, votes are counted by voters themselves.
Nicholas Russell
get non accelerationists the fuck off my board
Brody Nguyen
I really hope this will come true. EU will collapse if Marie Le Pen wins.
Nathaniel Baker
The ethnosates i can think of have amongst the highest suicide rate of the world.
Brandon Perez
Norway has a high suicide rate but its population is also the happiest in Europe.
Owen Reyes
I didn't think of Norway, i had more South Korea and Japan in mind.
Ayden Anderson
How would Le Pen be an accelerationist choice if she actually turns out to be a Nationalistic SocDem? With Trump it made sense since we all knew he was going to implement neoliberal economic policies despite is populist rhetoric.
Jaxson Myers
I like how you are implying that Le Pen would make the life for people in France better.
This is the disconnection with reality the modern radical left is in, a candidate can not be leftist once she actually wants to implement effective policies to better the situation of the working class.
Evan Price
Who is leading in the polls?
Angel Cox
Obama wishes French presidential hopeful Macron good luck
When Nazbols are the smartest of the left you know the left is in a pretty bad shape.
Too bad your "anything" always ends up being a centrist. You people need Le Pen always in the background for your centrists to win.
Isaac Nelson
yankie you know shit
Hunter Jackson
bourgeois geopolitics will kill the modern left just like it killed the 2nd international.
Jayden Hall
bitch, have you seen greece?
Blake Martinez
Both are shitholes
Ryan Campbell
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Nathan Cox
I thought he was mixed race
Oliver Diaz
Shut up clown.
Kayden Phillips
There is no election, it's a circus to make it look like Macron was """elected"""
Aiden Murphy
N O S H I T O S H I T
Christopher Russell
you're like the tinfoil hat brexitards who took their own pens into the voting booth to make sure the loominaddi didn't rig the ballot
Angel Hall
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If she's still all about Izlam and Identity, then she doesn't have my vote. If she softens up on that and propose to safeguard public services more, I'll consider.
Angel Baker
bump
Bentley Powell
The quality of life of the French working class has to get worse for the greater good of MENA peoples. Le Pen's nationalism is at odds with this.
Asher Flores
I really hope she wins by upset just to spite the neoliberals
His mother was Jewish so according to Jewish matrilineal law shit he is a Jew.
Colton Long
Now I know why I remember why I don't go on this board, you all are just reactionary against anything that Holla Forums is for.
Luis Baker
Kill yourself.
Carson Flores
kys
Michael Hall
Europe should be at forefront of any European. Eventually as the state begins to federalize we can expect American influence in form of NATO to wither away.
We should aim to restoration of the European hegemony. in 1910 we still controlled 90% of the global wealth. We should aim to restore that status.
Jordan Richardson
Did melenchon lost?
Cameron Cox
wait is this what socdems are really like?
Jordan Gutierrez
What dumb right wingers and alt-rigthers don't realize is the dead of the EU will be nothing but the last nail in the coffin for western dominance. It will cause such a meltdown that only a few selected countries will survive add this to eight years of Trump. This guarantees Asian hegemony for the next fifty years.
I'm probably going to move to Hong Kong be an English teacher and make fun of them until I die.
Chase Sanchez
What will Asian hegemony feel like? I don't want to have to learn mandarin :^(
Kayden Rivera
Nationalists will dismantle the EU and pave the way for socialism.
Landon Carter
This is what raiding shills are like regardless of ideology
Sebastian Russell
Better than "President My Little Pony".
Jose Rivera
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Kayden Thompson
That is not what he is implying. The reason a faction of the US right supports wikileaks and snowden is cause of shit like infowars. Most french right-wingers are more traditional conservatives.
Tyler Reed
If we get China'd like I think we will then that's more or less what will happen