because people will start to work in the maintanance such machines, being more productive.
even if they get fired, other new jobs will generate more (relative)value because of it's low automation index.
for example, ten years ago there weren't many personal trainers as now, this because people started working in low-automated entries.
this mean that, while socialism is still an answer (and maybe, a necessary path), marxist theory is based on false premises, and there isn't actually any real difference between utopians and marxists.
This new automization wave will happen too fast for that too happen.
If you look at job statistics then you'll see that the most common job is truck driver in most states. All of these jobs will be gone in one and a half decades and those uneducated drivers won't become engineers or highly specialized mechanics anymore.
Gabriel Collins
if you want an image of the future, it's personal trainers paying personal trainers for personal training… FOREVER
Nathan Bell
wew
Thomas Morales
it's not like that, let me explain myself a little better:
check mate
Jayden Cook
Are you retarded or American op?(like there is a difference)
Sage
Nathaniel Jones
And how do they pay for food and cars? do the bourgeois just give those away for free? The service industry is a myth. Fast food for example would be gone if the government weren't giving them incentives not to. So will all transportation in 20 years maximum. If those people can't find jobs now what makes you think they will then?
You're doing lolberg levels of wishful thinking.
Ian Myers
all production systems trend towards efficiency
the whole purpose of automation is to perform the work of multiple humans with fewer humans
a single machine doing the job of X labourers requires far less than X labourers in maintenance, and as technology improves that ratio only gets better
marxism is based on false premises because marx was a nigga from a hundred years ago banging rocks together. for all we know he was false opposition providing a strawman enemy for capitalism, based on how the next few decades turned out
i know this is a troll post, but still
Jacob Diaz
So you haven't heard of ai op? The issue is ai not "automation" I've never heard anyone complain about the machines that lift car parts. Self maintenance machines are impossible you think?
Nathaniel Watson
The driverless car meme needs to die. If transportation is going to be automated, it will be by rail or air. Using the current road system for automated cars is only possible if human drivers are forcibly removed and that is never going to happen. Even then, fully automated cars are like 50 years away at least, too many variables and too much potential for mechanical failure.
Porky likes the driverless car meme because they like to think they don't need to build new infrastructure, which would necessarily employ proles.
Alexander Nguyen
you'll never get humans off the road but driverless trucks are completely feasible
logistics already own the current infrastructure; a single truck does something like 50,000 times the wear to highways that a car does, and we all essentially subsidise that
cars are basically irrelevant
Nathan Carter
the on Holla Forums is meant to be targeted something which is an unfounded belief, not something you don't like. We're using roads now because they're cheaper than rail and air, not because we want to create jobs. Truckers won't have a say in it, the technology already exists and has a lower accident rate than human drivers. Only massive government overreach can stop it (it shouldn't).
for 5 years, quality solutions there.
Jose James
Until automated personal trainers
Jayden Lewis
they will be cheaper because of automation.
Oliver Rogers
We know you're a fucking ancap, stop using the mutualist flag. Automation and increased labor efficiency under capitalism doesn't create the prosperity it should.
Hunter Hughes
i know, i'm not trying to say capitalism is good, but that it isn't getting worse over time, thus marxist theory is wrong, and there is no difference between utopian and "scientific" socialists.
Chase Hughes
need citation on that
Colton Bennett
I don't think you know what utopian socialism is.
Charles Foster
socialism that is not based on historical materialism (and in this case, in marx's faulty theory that capitalism is worsening over time, being the socialist revolution innevitable). duh
Landon Miller
not sure if sincere or just retarded.
Jacob Cruz
You're not taking into account that all of the people laid off from the jobs that were taken don't have access to the amount of money required to buy education to get them into engineering and IT jobs, nor the resources.
Jaxson Martinez
Neither of those examples are based on Marx's views.
Jaxon Lopez
there is my explanation now tell me how capitalism today is worse than 100 years ago.
James Martin
All easy jobs will be able to be performed adequately by machines within your lifetime. In fact we've already got AIs writing music and creating art.
Computers will never need more than 640KB of memory.
Xavier Evans
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Isaiah Perez
Big truck fleets have an extremely high turnover rate and are seriously hampered by regulations that maintain safety by forcing regular rests for the drivers. They will get automated really fast and hundreds of low educated workers will loose their jobs within a decade.
Isaiah King
There is no law of economics saying that just because their are people capable of performing service jobs that can't be automated (like personal training) therefore there will be demand for those jobs great enough to prevent unstable levels of unemployment
Aaron Edwards
If you upgrade the machine and it doesn't lead to unemployment, then you made a bad investment or its a shitty machine. There is literally no other reason to make a machine other to do a job a human can do, but better and more efficiently. Sure, some people will get maintenance jobs, do you really think this covers all the people who are laid off?
