When exactly did leftism die in the United States?
When exactly did leftism die in the United States?
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New Deal broke ours knees and Taft-Hartley ripped out our teeth. after that every thing ws settled in the bosses office not in the streets.
WWII. FDR killed it with The New Deal, a time where shit was almost at the breaking point.
The post-war economy was the birth of an economy with some semblance of stability, and even that ended a mere 20 years afterwards when wages began to stagnate in the 70's due to the creation of credit.
around the 1890s
after that it was plain sailing for the capitalists
Americas left wing was pretty much crawling in shit after ww2 but at least it was alive
it died in the 70s with govt interference fragmenting and stagnation
The Cold War and Red Scare are what really put the nail in the coffin imo.
Thomas Pynchon claims it was WWI in "Against the Day"
Palmer Raids
I'd say the early 70s. While real radical workers movements died after the New Deal and WW2, the anti-war and civil rights movements could properly be called leftist. After they died out it was dead.
at least we can all agree it's dead
popularity/culturally speaking, the Red Scare
economically after WWII
When first reading your post, I thought you were wrong, but then I was reminded that every congruence of leftists has more similarity to the night of the living dead than to anything that would resemble liveliness.
I disagree. For a capitalist FDR was pretty based. The issue wasn't that FDR took the wound out of the sails, but that capitalism had already won at that point. Unfortunately we were one of the first industrialized contries, so we couldn't learn from the mistakes of preprocessors. By the time communism came around american capitalists, already had enough power to stomp it out. The information age has given us a new chance to undermine the corporate power structure, but that window is fading, as more and more regulations stifle the free exchange of Idea's.
communism existed in america long before marx
Reagan.
IMO it even survived the red scare, even bastardized into hippies.
Robocop, Blade Runner, They Live and so on were the last resistance.
I may be freezing to death…
If you think that's leftism then we still have it, it's not like all leftys in america have been deported.
When Bill Clinton got elected and he continued the economic policies Reagan along with the US left not challenging capitalist triumphalism after the collapse of the Comecon.
but you will not get rid of me;
Its been in a downward spiral ever since the cold war started, people are still spooked about socialism
does anyone have the cartoon by this same guy regardign the history of gun control? that one was really good.
From the American Civil War, to around WW1 is where any real leftism died.
Huh? There were some real work done by a variety of socialist organizations during the late 1800s and early 1900s.
The Great Railway Strike of 1877 is in that time frame, which was the closest the USA came to a successful workers revolution.
What were the Unions?
What was FDR and his social policies, because of pressure from the left?
If you talk about actual Revolution, no. Since WW1 it's dead.
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sounds like ancap to me :P
without fdr there was a serious chance of revolution in the usa. FDR was the only serious reformist candidate in both the democratic and republican parties and the various socialist organizations (CPUSA, CIO, SLP) were gaining steam.
Or a serious chance that the US would go full reactionary.
the reactionary forces were far weaker than the socialists. the Silver Legion only had 15 000 members in 1934.
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Yes but Americans are the best in the world when it comes to propaganda
who's to say the business plot group doesn't use there influence to sway the desperate depression era population
by 1932 depression the american public had lost almost all faith in the system. hey had just lived through 12 years of violence from a failed and idiotic attempt at banning alcohol and daily they were bombarded by stories of the "success" of capitalism while their families starved. people were rightfully angry at the government and the capital class. The American propaganda machine thatfuck with the world now is a product of WW2 and the cold war. there was nothing like the incestous and trusted media machine in the 1930's
Yes, but, wasn't this exact loss of faith that led Germany to Nazism, and italy fascism?
Italy and Germany both had failed socialist revolutions resulting in powerful reactionary movements. The German and Italian public had lost faith in both socialism and capitalism. That is why fascism presented itself as the "Third Way".
When its brown leaders were killed off by the CIA and it was made illegal to be a socialist in a trade union and drugs were made illegal in order to target draft dodgers and brown people and when unions in general were kicked to shit and years of propoganda and lies started to take their toll
Leftism never really existed in the US.
From its conception till today you always had land owners/bosses and serfs/slaves/workers. There was never a time when workers had the control of the MoP, hell there was not even a time when people even advocated for such a thing.
what u mean
Yeah, if theCapitalist economy had fully collapsed during the Great Depression, the Left would have been in an excellent position to establish a Communist society.
The industrialists, including FDR, knew this, and so maneuvered us into WWII both to temporarily employ the masses, but also to counter the Soviets and establish the "First World" where capitalist markets would be protected by US force.
It started to die around 1940. Debs is long gone and the Socialist Party moved to the right. Shit like the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact discredited CPUSA. Trotsky gets icepicked and his followers are only good at selling newspapers. FDR delivers reforms and most leftists just become Democrats.
After all that the we have the second Red Scare and Cold War. The movements of the 60's and 70's are crushed by Nixon. It finally dies because of Reagan.
you think marx invented communism or something?
well you're wrong jesus did