When you realize that Barry was the classiest American president in the last 40 years

He was a bloodthirsty crook, but fuck fam I miss him. A million times better than Trump.

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Go back to Holla Forums

Jesus Christ, taking a break from sucking cock are we, OP?

Having a buffoon as president is way funnier

Marginally better than trump at best. go back to your democrats student group or wherever you came from.

Name one thing I said that was factually incorrect. We had a sociopath, a serial rapist, a monkey, Obama, and now a sociopath rapist monkey. Get a life dude, he wasn't good but he was absolutely the best we've had in a long time.

Why is there more and more apologia for the Democrats here as of late? They're just as much neoliberal enemies of the working class as the Republicans.

Sadly true.

Barrack Obama embodies the idealised image of America cherished by the liberal classes. Trump represents America as it really is.

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Do you think he spoke in ebonics or jive behind closed doors? Shiiiiet

go back to reddit

It's probably the reality of how much of an abomination the Trump presidency is crashing in on the more liberal oriented left. Truly a scary thing.

which are why his poll numbers are shit?

Trump is more conductive to our purposes. Obama is a nobody do nothing.

Embarrassing how easy it is to trigger Holla Forums tbh

The truth is ugly.

How? Don't give me the accelerationist bullshit, his economic policies are obviously not gonna deviate from the status quo.

It is the truth. Trump is a radicalizing force because he puts the ugliness of capitalism on the surface. Face it, he's better for us than Obama ever was and better than Clinton could be.

unless he starts a war or a depression, it won't matter. all of the anti-trump people will just slavishly vote democrat and then go back to ignoring politics

can you give one example of accelerationism working

He isn't a symbol of capitalism nitwit. A serious capitalist president would outsource everything as much as possible and encourage cheap labour to immigrate to the US. He is just a racist.

Obama was the Buzzfeed president. Yeah, he killed lots of third worlders, but his PR team was good at churning out cutesy memes, so who cares?
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Ellen Degeneres' Obama segments are actually quite aesthetic in a suburban vaporwave stalinist sort of wat

Implying he isn't already doing that by doing nothing to fix the trade deficit with China XD

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Russian Revolution. Next.

He was fucking shit from both a left and right perspective.

This is your brain on uncut idpol. He's deregulating everything, slashing social services, and increasing military spending while being openly militaristic. He's in bed with every industry and his cabinet members are openly hostile to the very institutions they're supposed to represent. Trump is a capitalists wet dream.

yeah i often look at russia and think "my, what a socialist utopia"

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That took 2 years, Trump has given up on healthcare in 2 months.

get the fuck off this board reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

No, a serious capitalist would use the US presidency to make money. That's exactly what he's doing.
He's probably not, you reddit nigger, but he sure takes advantage of it. This is why Holla Forums is so reluctant to admit that they were wrong.

I bet you often look at Sweeden and think that's a country closer to socialism than everywhere else.

Idiot, he is the corporate machine. He fucking campaigned against a guy that wouldn't vote for his shitty healthcare plan without a public option. Obama was never going to give you universal healthcare, and even if he did, all those reforms would be rolled back like they always do. This is inherent in capitalism. Reformism doesn't work.

As opposed to all the social democracies that had revolutions, I am sure.

How old are you, honestly. Was 08 your first election?

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Fuck obongo king nigger.
He was a warmongering capitalist neolib.
Nothing redeems that.
Go back to fucking reddit.

I'm not seeing an argument there, faggot. How about you address the fact that Obama campaigned against the shit you say he was going to give you?

Obamacare was literally the Heritage Foundation's healthcare plan. It was never about single payer or even less socialisation,it's a neoliberal vision of healthcare in which the goal is an insurance 'marketplace' created through exceedingly complex policy wizardry. Many in the middle classes ended up spending more in insurance after obamacare.

Fuck off american cunt. You and you cultureless country are what's wrong in the world.

gee that's a tough choice.
keep wasting your life waiting for that revolution, it's about 30 years late already by my reckoning. maybe it got cancelled?

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Hypocrisy at its finest, you stupid faggot. America is the next country that will have a socialist revolution. We're sending your reactionary ass to the gulag.

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Nice strawman, but accelerationism is about getting people to see shit for what it is, not sitting on an armchair and hoping that social democracy somehow magically changes to full communism.

Yeah, I bet Sweden will do it first. Definitely not the one country that has a huge armed population with increasingly diminishing prospects. It will totally be your country instead. Maybe if you armchair hard enough we'll get FALC out of nowhere.

The American government is designed to prevent revolutions and insurrections. A lenin style vanguard could never work, even with military backing. You would need to invade from the outside and destroy the country, which would be a very good thing really. America is a disgusting country.

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Yes that's right fellow prole! Your people will rise up any day now! In the meantime keep wagecucking!

Did your booky wook tell you all this?

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It's not very effective even with all the advantages.

We don't know yet what will work, but this country certainly isn't "disgusting". This is the same shit as "kill white people". It's idpol to the extreme.

Again, strawman. Nobody is saying that revolution will magically happen or that you should continue on as if nothing was ever going to happen. That's what people like you advocate for and it's never gotten you anywhere.

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Fugging France has more class consciousness than America. The next revolution sure as hell ain't taking place in America.

The French might do something, but class consciousness is building in America, and we're more likely to set shit on fire. It's the national culture.

America was literally built by porkies who were mad that they had to pay taxes in order to finance their own colonial adventures. It was build on the backs of slaves and indentured servants on top of the bodies of native americans. It's entire legal structure is focused exclusively on the preservation of private property and always has been. There is nothing redeemable about it. America has done more harm to the socialist movement over the past 100 years than any other country or organization. For that alone it deserves to be completely annihilated and forgotten after the revolution.

America will be where the last remnant of the bourgeoisie will make their final stand once the global communist state starts making serious inroads most likely.

you produced nothing to argue against retard, just basesless speculation.
obviously you have to think you're something special and not just another cuck. it's the american way.
if sweden are so comfy that the people don't desire revolution then good for them. they made it.
don't try to denigrate them and make out your shitty classcucked country is somehow better off.

He drove the porky agenda, but he did it with style.
At least he didn't made up shit to invade countries, like Trump and Clinton do RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

When you said country, I thought you meant the people. For some reason eurofags can't just attack the government and often conflate Americans with the American government.

So I'm guessing you're not a socialist, then. Their people will desire revolution because even in their countries reforms will be rolled back. They always are. It's the capitalist way.

But I didn't say my country was better. I just said we were more open to revolution, and that's true.

This is excellent bait

I am a socialist. But I'm not dogmatic enough to oppose something that brings the effects of socialism in a different way. If that's the reality of how it has to be achieved then so be it. Beats shooting yourself in the foot in the hope it possibly makes you angry enough to revolt. What kind of retarded logic is that?
You might have a revolution in America but it won't be the sort a socialist would want.
But really you're a bunch of fat lazy spoilt selfish brats so no, you won't have a revolution.

Reformist is not that way. It does not fix wage labor, alienation, the law of value, or anything of the sort.

Strawman logic, apparently. That's not what accelerationism is. It means we're going to get fucked either way, so we might as well make it sooner rather than later so we can hurry up and do away with capitalism before it kills us. But I guess you never bothered to think.

You don't know what kind that would be since you don't even want revolution. Socialism cannot be had without it.

Yeah, this is just elaborate idpol. We get it, an American fucked your mom and your girlfriend at the same time and you're still salty about it.

Even Muslim countries are more class conscious than Europe.

Nice b8.

1.Latin America
2.Muslim countries
3.Europe
4.Africa
5.Russia
6.India
7.Australia
POWER GAP
9001.China
9002.Japan
9999.USA

2. KEK
3., 4. ONE COUNTRY!

Faggot.

I was never terribly impressed with the "oratory skill" the media fawned over (manufactured) and I always thought he was phony as fuck.

He made up gas attacks in Syria in 2013 to attempt precisely that.

kys you autistic piece of shit

America doesn't like itself

Nice ad hominem.

kek

barack obama = gay trans-man and probably jewish too

revolution is a sign of failure.

Yes. Fuck Obama.