Leftist Nationalism

kys my dude

This isn't really nationalism, though. You could call it Socialist Patriotism, which involves internationalism anyway. Your loyalty is to socialism and the proletariat, not to the government.

I'm talking about appealing to ordinary people here not some definite ideology of preserving and respecting all nations just because they exist.


Who said anything about diversity? A nation must have a united community and culture to be a considered a nation.

By caring about your nation and working for it to be the best? It's not that hard.


Borders are good because it allows different political and legal systems to exist in the world, a borderless world would be a world with a single political and legal system. Open-borders is good people because it allows people to choose which country they want to live. Closed-borders are bad because it doesn't allow people that freedom of choice.


1. because there will always be nations, a complete world unification will not happen immediately. 2. I'm talking about appealing to common people here not some definite position of preserving nations. 3. A true nationalist would want their country to be the best, therefore the most cosmopolitan and would want people to immigrate there because it's better than other countries.


They are free to migrate and do whatever they want, unlike in capitalist or fascist nations, you moron.


It's not nationalism in the sense of wanting to pursue your nation's interests above other nations, but it's nationalism in the sense of wanting your nation to be the most righteous one and the most helpful to other nations.

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I mean if I lived in a socialist country then yeah I would be patriotic but you should be proud of your country for what it does, not just in the abstract.

And if you let them migrate, it will swiftly become less of the best nation. Uncontrolled immigration only is a plus in an ancrap hellhole like the early US. In any nation with a broad welfare state, it's a recipe for ethnonationalist deadlock and collapse.

There's a big difference in ethical civic pride and nationalism, the latter largely being tied to ethnic chauvenism in the context of the modern nation-states.

why not both

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There's no 'nation' after wwii. It got sold off to the Bilderberg group. There's just banks and corporations.
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There's nothing to be proud of. The US are the innovators of pain and the military-industrial complex on more horrific scales every day.