Fighting for gay rights is liberal idpol, communism will solve oppression

Stalin was spooked to the core and Castro has backpedalled on persecuting homos

Yeah? Why?

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My point is: If it wasn't for identity politics people would still be as opposed to gays as they were back then. And communist tendencies didn't seem to make you less homophobic. So why is this board so opposed to identity politics?

'identity politics' are merely a more sophisticated mechanism of control better suited to the current economic structure.

Denying Homsexuals rights is also Identity Politics. Being against Identity Politics just means you leave them the fuck alone. You don't infringe their rights but you also don't wave a fucking rainbow flag. Both is equally cancer.

no they wouldn't
yes they did
because it is neither sufficient nor necessary to the real movement which abolishes the present state of things.

Wrong.

But infringment of rights is usually the default position and waving the rainbow flag the reaction to it

So how did acceptance of homosexuality come about?

ie. the society of control, classifying people into groups so you can sell them stuff, tell them what to think, a step up from the purely repressive tactics of disciplinary societies

What's a "default position"? If something doesn't hold up to scientific, materialist standards it's ought to be abolished. In the early modern age it was the default position to get accused of witchcraft.

And no, waving rainbow flags is IdPol faggotery which is used to justify the liberal state of affairs.

OP, idpol is sometimes justified, as it was in the fight for gay rights and with the civil rights movement, for instance. It only becomes bad when people want to talk exclusively about it and exclude economic class. MLK was a socialist, which isn't commonly known, and the bourgeoisie would prefer to keep it that way.

Another case: US age of consent laws are goddamn ridiculous and should be changed to be more in line with biological fact, but there's a sizable portion of "progressives" who want to keep robbing people of their rights because they're spooked as fuck, don't know the first fucking thing about the topic and don't care to learn because they're too fucking arrogant to admit that they might have been bamboozled by the media hysteria, and that same arrogance is what makes them think they deserve to be allowed to tell other people who they can consent to fucking. However, if you examine their level of knowledge on other subjects it very often becomes clear that they don't have any room to criticize anyone else's maturity level, but since when has a lack of knowledge ever stopped people from touting their half-baked opinions as God's gift to the world? Socialism by itself won't solve this because merely enacting a socialist system won't magically make people be rational.

tl;dr kill tankies and anarcho-tankies