What are your thoughts on the CIA?

What are your thoughts on the CIA?

The CIA setting up proxy wars and arming militias and keeping dictators in power so long as it serves US interests, staging coups, intervening in elections, getting college groups/unions to revolt, manipulating media, etc etc

Anyone read Phil Agee's book or Legacy of Ashes? How do we shed light on this overlooked issue?

Here's a nice little coup they were responsible for to protect the United Fruit Company's bananas in Guatemala:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d'état

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it's the terrorism wing of the u.s. government

Everyone in the CIA should be hung tbqh

Dude look at Nicaragua


It ain't overlooked. Its actively suppressed

It's the largest, best funded, and most effective neo-nazi organization in the history of the world. It's been fighting since Operation Paperclip to make Hitler's dreams come true.

What the hell are you talking about?

Pretty based all things considered.

thank you cia-san for the illegal wars and the mind control psyops

Makes good coke.

Operation Paperclip, Operation Gladio, etc. It seems every time they needed to find "anti-communists" during the cold war they always found the ones most compatible with nazi ideology available.

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The CIA is the most evil organization ever to exist in the modern world. Yes even worse than Hitler, as cliche as that sounds. They have been responsible for so much human misery that it is actually quite impressive. When the revolution occurs we will need to use their tactics to spread socialism across the globe.

To be fair after 1945 anyone the Left (extreme or liberal) didn't like was a "fascist", to the point that "fascism" has been almost rendered meaningless now

How is dumping cocaine in black ghettos supposed to advance socialism?

Or would socialists fund their activities after muscling out rival dealers and taking over the trade?

I don't know if I'm ruining a comrade's joke post or replying to a Holla Forumsyp, I just hate this board at this point.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_the_Greek_military_junta

they are not to be taken lightly
They are more powerful than the alt-right thinks they are but less powerful than extreme left wingers think they are. I think its worth studying the Mossad and MI6 almost moreso than the CIA due to certain groups controlling the opinions of the burger beltway elite.

Perhaps starting with the 6 days war and what happened with the USS Liberty, then going back and looking at the British role in Iran-Iraq's many regime changes. You might see a different picture this way

i think the tankie can fill you in on how misguided this is

The goal of a socialist CIA would be to disrupt the fabric of capitalist societies. They would fund militant left wing groups and right wing reactionaries (in order to destabilize centrist parties, especially center-left ones.) The assassinations of CEOs and important board members would also become routine as it would help to confuse markets and make them even more unstable. Basically do everything the KGB was doing but even better.

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The problem is the corruption of power and rogue agenda's

idk i'm drunk and want to destroy my ego/superego/id with a sledgehammer as well as the one that exists in everyone else

The problem with the KGB was that it became embroiled in supporting turf wars against American puppet states in Europe instead of trying to eliminate the capitalist system as a whole. The destruction of the western economy should have been the goal, since that is what determines the fate of capitalist societies rather than pure politics.

What I really wonder is what they're aiming for now that the USSR is gone.
Corporate interest? Personal interests? They seemed pretty worried about Trump but why? He seems easy to control and dupe.

That's a valid point

I still do think there is complacency specifically on this issue though…but perhaps accessibility to education on it is to blame

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I don't really know if its true any more, but many of the people involved in running the CIA in its early days were definitely Nazi sympathizers. Allen Dulles helped dozens of war criminals escape justice and helped them achieve high ranking position in the West German intelligence agency.

They CIA set up groups in Western Europe which were ostensibly meant to be insurgents in the face of soviet invasion but in reality were just Fascist paramilitaries that terrorized leftists and carried out false flag attacks to discredit the left in the eyes of the public.

there are still fascists, they just hide better now

The people funded/trained by the CIA were actual fascists many of them had served in the Nazi or Italian fascist parties.


Straight out of Dugin's the foundations of geopolitics, but seriously funding right wing parties is unnecessary and counterproductive.

that's ok user

The CIA invented LSD and most of the cool (counter)culture of the 20th century can be traced back to people directly or indirectly funded by them. Even if they don't intend to, they make a pretty good vanguard party.

That's just non-factual. Albert Hoffman accidentally synthesized LSD. The CIA sure did a lot of experimentation with psychedelics that acted on 5HT-2 receptors of the brain though

Well they didn't technically INVENT it but they did a lot of research on it and probably did a lot of planning under it's influence. LSD wouldn't be as big today without the CIA, and the modern CIA probably owes more to Acid than Nazis.

They didn't it invent it, but they are likely responsible for releasing it to the public. They drugged unexpected people under MKULTRA and they also did experiments on volunteering college students during the 60's, which surprise, ended up with the hippie movement.
I've heard people go as far as to claim that it was intentional, and the CIA created the hippie movement to undermine the anti-war movement.

no they didn't Sandoz, and the CIA just produced a fuck ton of it
I wonder why that is?
Yeah the 60's, explosion of drug abuse and the birth of idpol, lifestylism and the spread of New Ageism were very socialist, excellent vanguard party. Sending lots of drugs to middle class normies and playing hypnotic music in the background while you infiltrate all their student groups, activist groups, the American Communist Party and completely destroy the Left's intelligence network from the inside out, excellent vanguard group

Honestly it's disturbing to know that the modern state has so much power, with intelligence agencies and whatnot. How can a revolution even overthrow capitalism that way?

A vanguard party doesn't necessarily must be socialist you see

KEK

Is that true? Why would they spread New Age and not some traditional and conservative form of Christianity?

How are we supposed to fight porky when the CIA has a log of all of out f-list chats?

Every once and I while when I'm playing this thought crosses my mind.

Have you ever had rp interrupted because your partner turned out to be a pollack? I have ;-;

if these problems are so pressing to you the best thing you can do is organizing in your community and giving an opportunity for a diversity of tactics within its members in order to successfully achieve the goals you set out This can be an extremely empowering way to affect you community and give them a taste of what can really be done when we let go of our constraints -anarchyfag