We can all agree that he is Evil and needs to be stopped by any means necessary before he kills more babies- am I right...

He's not more or less Evil than the American imperialist Military Industrial Intelligent Complex.

but what about the babies?

Imperialist strategy for Syria: Kill Assad, plunge the country in a civil war which will last another 10 years, extract the oil, let Isreal and Turkey take parts of Syria. All the imperialists are slightly more happy and satisfied until Iran will be targeted.

fuck off reddit

If Assad is killed/replaced, who the fuck do they have waiting in the wings?

Nah. Fuck off. Together with anyone else trying to drive a wedge between Rojava, Hezbollah, Iran, Russia and the Baath Government.

Still waiting on that solid proof that Assad decided to gas a non-military target for no reason whatsoever, right when the war is on the verge of winding down.

A new challenge for freedom >:D

And they would hand over the pipelines to Russia for what reason? Niceness would be a first.

The Syrian People yearn to be free, maintain the territorial integirty of their country and live in a democratic Syria. Who are you to tell them they are wrong?

I though the YPG was against Assad.

Assad is based and only Arab nationalism can break the petrodollar and thus break American-backed global capitalism

They're pragmatically indifferent.

YPG are zoroastrian ethnonationalist separatists who have collaborated with the murderous Assad regime, the end game is the partition of syria against the will of syrian people.

Only insofar as he's disliked. And for good reason. (Qamishli 2004, being treated like second-class citizens for decades, etc.)
It's clear however that opposing him militarily would be a disaster for Syria. Right now everyone that wants a united Syria need to work together. There's Turkey in the North, ISIS in the east, and the FSA in the north-west.

Maybe you should read the official statements. Independence has been rejected repeatedly.

Did this actually make sense when you typed it?

I think user meant if the US overthrows him who will be the replacement. My guess is it will be an Iraq situation which could either end up with Rojava picking up the pieces or more likely the US quietly destroying them with zero media coverage and turning Syria into a playground for endless war.

it's complicated but generally

Simple, Assad is Alawite, Kurds are Zoroastrian, they both hate sunnis

If Assad is removed by the US Syria will be handed to the Syrian National Coalition, or the Muslim Brotherhood basic. Of course the US is the main player, but the Gulf countries and Turkey have put so much money and effort into the jihadist opposition that they will certainly make sure post Assad Syria is Islamist.

If Syrians want to live in an Islamist country, then who are we to judge? The left can be quite orientalist sometimes.

Is this bait? Syrian kurds are majority Sunni.

Also for anyone crying about the YPG in the name of "anti-imperialism": See archive.is/t53nP.

Date - 2015

Stop consuming gulf state propaganda.

Yes, but American Interventionism is more likely to fuck things up than help. There are even worse people than Assad. At best, the West should be lending indirect aid towards progressive forces like Rojava, not preparing for an occupation.

Assad is the only normal person over there.
EVERYONE WHO ISNT ASSAD IS A ISLAMOFASCIST OVER THERE

Western kekolds need to stop thinking that islam is anything but fascism. Islam is a hard right fascist ideology FUNDAMENTALLY INCOMPATIBLE with anything secular or of different religion.
DAS KAPITAL OR QURAN, YOU CAN PICK ONE AND ONLY ONE

Shit, Zoroastrians still exist? Or are you just pulling my leg? Ahura Mazda is a pretty cool guy.

Sure but by "Iraq situation" I meant that the replacement won't keep the place stable and it'll be worse than it was before. I don't think the people in charge will matter that much because they will have competition from the other parties involved.

They don't though, which is part of why I don't think the power they install will last. Too many competing interests. As long as foreigners are stomping around playing soldier the place will be too unstable to right itself.

orientalist is a buzzword for rebel lovers to dismiss their 'revolution's' sectarian and savage nature

tbh I think there's some internal divisions within the Baath party regarding the YPG. I think Bashar himself doesn't like em but I see plenty of positive statements from other officials within his government.

You forgot about SDF famalam.

Kill yourself out of Holla Forums you liberal retard.

Kurds aren't Islamist, Sunni only in name and actually very leftists, agree w/ everything else you said.

Wtf I'm a Holocaust denier now

Daily reminder that Assad is one of the few socialist leaders remaining in the middle east, and the only socialist in this conflict. Not supporting him is inherently reactionary.

Rojava is socialist and democratic. Instead of the Assad regime.

Ive already made my choice inshalllah

Lets be realistic, they will never control whole of syria
And democracy in the middle east is a farce

We'll make you cunts eat bacon.

I always laugh at westerners memespouting
Its not some kind of kryptonite for muslims you know? It does not prevent anyone from entering the Jannah
Its just an unclean animal that you are not supposed to eat
And given the context of quran it made a whole lot of sense not to eat pigs in 7th century arabian penisula because at that time pigs carried deadly disasters and parasites

Uhh yeah dude. They've always been around in small numbers. Blame your history book propaganda for implying they were extinct. They're oppressed by the islamofascists but the West doesn't care about them much like the Christians in the region

I thought they used camels.

Absolute morality says if Assad is bad, then he must go regardless of the method or the consequences.

Relative morality says if Assad is bad, but the alternative is worse, then he must live remain.

The alternative is another war in the middle east which will bring a 7-figure death toll.

… on the other hand, it will also bring massive debt that will likely crush the capitalist economy, spreading suffering throughout the American proletariat and accelerating the revolution.

Shit. I came in here to call you a retard, and now I don't know if you are or not.

kys you imperialist stooge, how will US land invasion create less death? how old are you? do you not remember Iraq?

Holla Forums is a board for Leftists. Why would Leftists support imperialist intervention and protracted occupation of any country by a Capitalist world power? fuck off liberal.

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If everyone else fucks up spectacularly enough it could happen

I'm a Hitchensite. He's a brutal dictator and his government is not secular in the slightest. The United States needs to play a more active role in not allowing a conservative Muslim to be leader of the new government we construct. Maybe run some propaganda campaigns to convince the people that not electing a conservative Muslim would be good because it would help us prevent ISIS from coming in and beheading them.

American intervention has literally never not made the situation worse. It doesn't matter how bad the target is, never ever support American intervention.

Stopped reading right there.

Not even if the target was Saudi Arabia?
I know it'll probably never happen, it's just a hypothetical situation.

Damn, Lee Camp is fucking hardcore.

How about no you imperialist cuck

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wtf I love the Iraq war now

Keel yourself for using meme words from the 1970s.

Neoconservatism took off in the 80s you immense retard

The Iraq War was not bad in what it accomplished. It was pandering to pull the troops out. Trump says Obama created ISIS by pulling out. Leftists often say Bush created ISIS by going in. The uneducated opinion of the American people created ISIS by believing what we were doing in Iraq was not a good thing.

Well… There was that one time…

Are you a Nazi?

What good things were accomplished by going into Iraq? And you have to be trolling or 12 to think the prevailing opinion of the American people at the time is that "what we were doing in Iraq was not a good thing"

This is like asking if you would support Russia unseating Assad

I think you'll find American intervention prevented a Red Europe, ergo made things worse.

Look if it was America doing it SOMEHOW we would find a way to make things actively worse.

A couple babies, oh man I'm shaking. Those who oppose The Regime, and their children, will die comrade.

Soviets definitely did most of the heavy lifting, but without Lend-Lease the Nazis would have won on both fronts.

A war machine can't run on ideology alone, and the Soviets took a massive hit to production right at the start of Operation Barbarossa.

All their factories were in the West, right in Hitler's path, so they had to move all the shit to the East to protect it. That meant no production for about a year.

The US kept the USSR fighting and allowed them to save Stalingrad and Moscow.

So sure… The US prevented a red Europe. But they also prevented a Nazi Russia.

I'm serious and 23. Most Americans did not support the war after the most severe part of the 9/11 paranoia died down. The alternative, however, is a dickless foreign policy, essentially allowing the world to get shittier by allowing people like Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi to remain in power.

The user you replied to is memeing hard, but there is a small community of Zoroastrians that's concentrated in India. They quite literally fled there during the conquests and are all now reactionary super-porkies.

Every Trot is two sectarian splits away from turning into a neocon, look no further then Hitchens himself.

What the fuck are you talking about? Is every Holla Forumsyp going to just turn into a pathetic dithering neocon now? I honestly preferred when you guys were just edgy Nazis.

I'm sure Syria's Christians would love to live under a salafist regime.

Go back and look at the polling stats if you can find them. You're sorely mistaken and/or your timeline is very off. The war boosted W's ratings for an additional 2-3 years such that the backlash only really started to hit him circa 06.

Stop sucking up propaganda uncritically jfc. At the very least watch any of a million documentaries made since the mid 2000s about just how manufactured all the narratives about these middle eastern rules was/is.

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Fuck off Cheney

Definitely not just shitposting. I couldn't care less if he died but it's much more important to me that the US stops playing world police while there are people starving within our own borders.

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Feel free to point out me saying that at any point in my post. If you honestly believe that:
1. The US had noble intentions in invading Iraq
2. Ousting Saddam was a net positive to the region
Then you seriously need to consider suicide

He's probably not a Holla Forumsyp, he sounds like a NU atheist liberal or something like that.

It might actually be meme Harris

Global communist. Religious theocracies must be deleted.

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No.

Finally someone telling it like it is. One call always count on the moral compass and compassion of serious and educated Americans like you. We love you.
-rest of the world

From a historical materialist perspective, a theocracy is more advance than tribal warfare which is what Iraq has now.

People are desperate to fight against imperialism.

I would if it was Russia doing it.

No