Guys. Guys. The clock on global climate change is still ticking. There can't be any lasting stateless, democratic society if the human population is wiped out by environmental catastrophe. We can cook porky after we smash his factories and oil refineries.
Guys. Guys. The clock on global climate change is still ticking. There can't be any lasting stateless...
Matthew Nguyen
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Grayson Gray
Climate disasters will dramatically weaken global capitalism and allow us to seize the state more easily. Climate change is prerequisite for global communism.
Joshua Robinson
No it fucking won't. The mass migration of people, spread of disease, desperate squabble over scare resources, and warfare will result in the kind of xenophobia and us vs them mentality that will squelch any possibility of revolution. Even if it doesn't, then being willing to roll the dice on human extinction or near extinction for the sake of an easier revolution is porky-tier evil.
Jacob Johnson
The temperature only needs to rise 3 more degrees for every to state in the world to attain justice and equality for all through 1800s utopian economic theory.
James Flores
Stable climate is bourgeois
Angel Wright
Ian Hall
We just need ONE good mission to get things rolling.
Christopher Morales
There is no saving ourselves from climate change
We'll build our egalitarian societies in the ruins of the old world where we can
Julian Robinson
of course an anarchist would think that. you can't protect the environment without a state
Ayden Diaz
We can reduce it's impacts, allowing us to downgrade severity from "extinction" to "long term disaster".
Blake Campbell
Humans are never going to go extinct, not even if the entire Earth turns into a desert and the oceans literally boil away. Climate change wouldn't even reach that point anyway; it'll severely disrupt shit and ruin a lot of shit for a long time, but humans will adapt to the new world.
Ryan Anderson
Is this what is called hubris?
Gavin Walker
The best way to protect the environment is culling. Kill all but a few million people.
Aiden Phillips
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Matthew Collins
If anything what it'll do is allow for strongmen to seize power and reinstate a sort of neofeudal order.
Carson Ramirez
Climate change is prerequisite for global state socialism*
Cameron Roberts
That wolf anime was really lame.
Isaiah Moore
True.
Dinosaurs adapted to their new world by becoming chickens, though. Homo Revelor will be a kind of rodent, or perhaps a farmed species for the new squid overlords.
Isaac Sullivan
Birds had already existed and been evolving for millions of years before the Cretaceous end extinction event. It simply wiped out the other dinosaurs more preferentially.
Dylan Johnson
Ecology or catastrophe.
Nicholas Perry
Unless an asteroid cracks the entire Earth or a powerful enough gamma ray burst burns the Earth away without notice, there will be people who'll be able to survive in bunkers, walled off or domed self-sustaining cities, etc.
William Harris
The kind of state left to be seized, or the amount of people left to do so, will make it all a very poor trade-off.
Oh no my comrade, the ravages of climate change will herald absolute state control. It will necessitate it. No more freedom of movement, freedom to choose where you live, freedom to choose what you eat, freedom to reproduce, to choose where you work, etc. We will all become indispensable yet replaceable cogs in a fully centrally directed machine that maintains a semblance of civilization through herculean effort and sacrifice. Your labour will be needed, and you will be worked to death. Those will be the lucky ones - all people outside the copula of the State will simply perish in the parched deserts and algae-chocked seas that no longer permit complex life.
Leo Miller
good lord that's dark
Ryder Martin
1 this scenario would demand production for use and suspension of capitalist profit and competition
2 having fell-taken care of workers would be the only possible way for this society to survive
if we're lucky it may not be as dystopian as you think, or at least would end capitalism and open up the possibility of libertarian socialism once the dust has settled
Zachary Hughes
No question about that, it will all be about careful resource management. Waste will become the biggest enemy in a world where arable land is scarce. That's not a very liberating alternative to capitalism though.
Unless we get really efficient solar power I suppose. If you can throw energy at it, you can make clean water, use it in hydroponic farms in towers, cool the climate in living units with airconditioning etc. But I'm not sure we can do that for more than a few hundred million people at most. And at that point, the "growth" is entirely chained to the expansion in solar arrays or nuke plants, a chokepoint, which of course makes it very vulnerable to centralized control.
And that whole configuration is so vulnerable, it's almost like living on a space station - no equipment failures allowed, which again closes avenues to human freedom. You have to be constantly ready to move, to fix things, to possible sacrifice yourself. Not my idea of paradise.
Robert Cook
Whew