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I'm surprised they have enough time to go to anti-war rallies and feel 'oppressed' considering the amount of time they put into committing rape, murder and terrorism in their adopted countries.

Most Iranians in the US are like this: sitting on their asses in West LA while pushing for a US war with Iran.

Cubans as well.

Merrimack Valley Lebanese are also like this. During the 2006 war all of them were cheering for Israel. I shit you not.

Why is it so hard for people to see both sides are bad and that both sides serve imperialist interests in one way or another.

The only upside of Assad is that he represents the weaker BRICS imperialists against the mercenaries of the far more aggressive (because declining) Western-Israeli-Gulf Statw bloc in the region.

The people on that subreddit are beyond insufferable. They frequently defend Erdogan ffs.

I never claimed that the opposition is good in any sense, but I will defend the people that save civilian lives from retarded black and black bullshit.

reddit.com/r/islam/comments/62d5tn/opinions_on_the_kurds_and_rojava/?sort=top

lmao look at this. /r/islam is a salafi shithole.

Nothing particularly salafi about it. This is just Islam.

I thought the only reason the Kurds were implementing libertarian socialism was because of Islam. Wasn't Prophet Muhammad LITERALLY Bookchin?

This roach needs to be stomped.

Islam is a salafi shithole.

Didn't Muslims establish socialism centuries BEFORE Europeans?

They maronites?

Yes. Some of them are Evangelicals.

Holla Forums is a ROJAVA supporting board, not an Assadist one.

Supporting Rojave does not mean supporting a war in Syria

How do we educate kebabfags like this?

If by socialism you mean mass slavery, racism an imperialism, then yes.

You can't, Turkroaches have to be driven back to central Asia.

Wow triggered much?

CRINGE

same guy who made this comment is a strong advocate of the Saudi war on Yemen

TBH this is great because it shatters a lot of the bullshit imagery the left has placed on Muslims in the past 15 years, that "Muslims" are a political and social monolith who will all naturally desire socialism and fall in-line with whatever the Maoists declare "anti-imperialist". Obviously, most of them have their own agenda.

Link?

Can you imagine being a Muslim

I feel sorry for a lot of western Muslims right now. Imagine how fucking confused they must be since 9/11: being constantly pressured to "reform" your religion/culture so that it fits better with late capitalism, rather than seeing America reform its foreign policy.

I don't think educaiton among Syrians is very high quality at the moment m8. Yesterday CNN had on some survivor of teh 2013 gas attak bitching about Assad even though it was proven that was a false flag by the rebels. Dude even praised Trump's dumb and ineffective missile strike.

islam does need reform but i agree, it's not right that ordinary muslims in the west are blamed for terror attacks

Well it's also that Muslims feel a shitload of resentment towards being constantly told that their faith and lifestyles are "wrong" in the eyes of Americans, and they must change themselves out of some moral imperative, especially when American foreign policy, which is the actual cause of terrorism, doesn't change. You could say the same thing about French Muslims who face tons of laws prohibiting many of their religious customs as France continues to bomb Africa.

So do mudslimes and roaches get the bullet too?

Muzzies were never our allies to begin with.

Islam is degenerate and should die, as should any other reactionary doctrine based on spooks.

I fucking love this image.

Fucking Americans I swear at least the soviets would of secularized Afghanistan with an iron fist it worked with kazakhstan.

I am shocked, shocked!

Islam needs to be neutralized and domesticated like Christianity was during and after the Enlightenment.

What does it mean?

Imagine how great that would be.

Because they are often used to set up false flags like the recent saren gas attack.

The book the lady is holding says "Lenin" and the man is obviously holding a Quran. So it seems to me that it shows women being liberated from Islamic reactionary superstition by socialist teaching. Don't know what the text at the bottom says.

Cuban expats are literally all descendants of big landowners and Batista regime officials.

If the USSR were still around, 9/11 would have never happened.

The main problem for us is, Muslims generally have way more children than secular people (Muslim families usually average 4-7 kids per family, compare that to westerners who usually have 2.3 kids). Assuming demographic trends continue, France, Belgium, and the UK will be more Muslim in the next 30 years than the US is black, or Russia was proletarian during the years leading up to the Russian Revolution. Not to mention, most Muslims see their faith and traditional values as a form of resistance against western hegemony and capitalism, so it's highly unlikely to assume they're going to divorce themselves from their religion and culture when resisting capitalism or racism.

Why does this shit make me angrier than it should?

Neither Islamic religion nor Islamic dogma are compatible with leftism or socialism. And virtue-signalling liberals can take their false solidarity with muslims and go fuck themselves.

Bottom says:
H. Rasulov
-Since when have you turned away from the holy book?
-Since I learned to read this book.

Explain. I'm pretty sure Islam had a form of proto-socialism back in the day.

It makes you wonder how many of these "Syrian refugees" are themselves gusanos who only left Syria when it was clear Assad was going to win.

OH MY GOD GET THIS ISLAMOPHOBIC TRASH OUT OF HERE.

A welfare state isn't socialism.

Their fertility rates are dropping quite a lot though.

You can twist and cherry pick pretty much any holy scripture to fit a wide variety of ideological positions. The content of holy books is quite secondary compared to religious institutional organization and their ties to economic forces.
What would be Wahhabism without petrodollar funding?

One of the five pillars of Islam is a tax based on accumulated wealth. This is not socialism.

this but unironically

the sunni muslim online starterpack:

#freepalestine

"Assad is committing genocide in Syria"

"Shia aren't really Muslim tho"

"ISIS only exist because Sunnis were oppressed, Shia militias are just as bad"

*terror attacks happens/minorities get killed at the hands of Sunni extremists* "terrorism has no religion… this is an attack on all of us*

#SunniGenocide

"Erdogan is such a great leader, the Muslim world needs more like him"

MOAR:

"Malala is a Zionist agent."

"YPG are Zionist agents."

"Jews broke up the glorious Ottoman Empire"

"Sufis are pagans/satanists/crypto-jews"

"Brudder that's a weak hadith"

"Brudder 4/5ths of Bukhari are weak ahadith"

"The Saudis aren't all bad, look they fund a ton of mosques worldwide."

Aleppo is #anuhddahnaqba

"But SHIAS supported the American Iraq invasion."

"Shias are responsible for the Yemen famine."

it's soothing to know i'm not the only one noticing this toxicity, ty comrades

Who the fuck says this?

WTF? "Sahih" literally means AUTHENTIC you fucking dipshits.

the "the poor oppressed sunnis dindu nuffin, they had no option but to join ISIS" narrative has been pushed very heavily, you'll see it come up often in the works of hacks like micheal weiss and hassan hassan

twitter.com/search?q=shia just as bad isis&src=typd

Question: why does it always seem like Muslims blame teh jooz for everything? Yeah fuck Israel but why blame joooz for every fuckup in the Muslim World? What does Israel have to do with, say, corrupt governments in KSA, Sudan, Algeria, Mali, Pakistan, etc.?

I have a Sunni friend who legit believes this. He also isn't even religious anymore its just a tribal thing. He also consistently argues that Iran is the most evil country in the world and the sources of all extremism in Islam. A member of his family did get kidnapped by Hezbollah tho so its understandable.

Let's not forget Hezbollah doesn't exactly like the Palestinians much. Nasrallah says he wants Palestinians out of Lebanon after Israel is defeated.

It's because of white oppression.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's almost a cultural thing at this point I think. Everything is Mossad or Zionist agents. I remember after SDF liberated Manbij there was a vid of women tearing off their niqabs saying "curse those Jews (meaning ISIS) for what they did to us" or something along those lines lmao

the Palestinian struggle is one that's one that's being increasingly reduced to a religious one, which I think is ultimately damaging to the cause

I mean, you could say this is the result of Israel offsetting secular and leftist Palestinian parties by funding Hamas, but most of the support for Palestine isn't even coming from the Palestinians themselves but from Muslim diaspora populations in the west.

I used to be involved in my university's SJP club back in the day. When I came in as a freshman back in 2008 the entire club was Maoists and Trots with a few anarchists (it was only 15 people but still) and only one of them was a hijabi. By my senior year in 2012 almost everyone in SJP was a hardcore religious Muslim and here I was the one atheist white girl with a fucking hammer and sickle pin on her purse.

Israel definitely astroturfed Hamas to splinter the Palestinians and delegitimise the PLO but I think that aspect is overplayed, and the turn to Hamas is just part of a broader turned towards revolutionary Islamism in the Middle East since the Iranian Revolution.

I read that Hamas' popularity has plummeted in Palestine recently though.

The bolsheviks were actually pro-islam in the early days and only became hostile to muslims when they saw them as counter-revolutionary. compare to christianity which they always saw as reactionary.
youtube.com/watch?v=5L3sy2eLD6Q

speaking as a muslim i can say you're wrong. islam demands all wealth be put into the community and sees all property as belonging to allah only. the early islamic state wasn't even a state but a loose confederation of cities all held together by the prophet, who was nothing more than a symbolic leader. rojava is the closest thing to this model in modern times.

actually it's a strong consensus in the muslim community (sunni and shia) that most hadith are completely fraudulent.

It's plummeting because Hamas has done the fuck all to relieve the effects of the occupation/blockade. Most of its officials are extremely corrupt, arguably more so than Fatah at this point.

"Sahih" still indicates authenticity you fucking blockhead.

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This is extra retarded since most of the terrorist groups are backed covertly by western agencies. But of course leave it to fanatic sunnis to jump to the "blame other muslims" strategy immediately when they have to turn to a conspiracy.

Anyway the sufis are where it's actually at tbh, everything else is pleb tier

Do they advocate communism or just charity?

Not explicitly communist but it's the most emancipatory strain of islam. Also, by complete coincidence of course, the most consistently persecuted and denigrated by mainstream muslims

Unless they explicitly advocate communism in their theological doctrine they're not promoting emancipation.

I mean that communism didn't exist as a concept like in modern times when sufi doctrines were formed, but the socialist strains of muslim thought are invariably in sufi or occasional shia sects

What "socialist strains"? Charity isn't socialism. Living ascetically isn't socialism.