Lenin

come on anarchists, accept the fact you'll never achieve socialism on a large scale without a state.

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you sound like me if i was a trip and thought arguing with people on leftpol was a good use of my time

I like Lenin but I think the USSR was a mistake.

I'd rather trust a true state-syndicalist, thanks for the offer though.

Sorry Leninists, just admit that all Leninist experiments have ended in creating a professional managerial class that controls and exploits the working class just as the bourgeois does and that socialism needs to at least have a basis outside of state power for it to be truly transformative and emancipatory.

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Lenis was a cool guy with a shitty taste in friends. Prove me wrong

I think you still have it on.

Lenin is okay, definitely much better than Trotsky or Stalin. I think DeLeonism and Plaformism are superior non-elitist forms of Leninism tho

wait a few years

He's dead.

lol no thanks, diamat is suck

It's over now. How am I supposed to "support" him?

they'll never admit it because they'll keep having dumb reasons why their state isn't actually a state

Who cares about "large scale", as long as I can live under anarchism I am happy.

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Political theory has evolved past the fucking First International, you LARPing retards.

While in the past the Leninist way of implementing a socialist (i.e. democratically and centrally planned) economy, today it could work thanks to the computing and networking technology we have at hand: dcs.gla.ac.uk/~wpc/reports/quito.pdf

Also check this thread:

*while in the past it has failed, I meant.

I don't care about socialism outside of anarchism because I don't think it has any long-term viability.

No thanks, lebin :DDDDDDD

BTFO'd!!!1!!!! xD

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Lenin wanted to organize the ussr based on democratic soviets and coops too bad he died while waiting for first world countries to become socialist as the ussr needed help

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Go away.

I don't believe those are real quotes

"i'm just a hypocritical liar, lol. and completely evil. this is totally a real quote btw." – adelf hitlor

He was a hypocritical two-faced liar who tongued the nuts of the bourgeoisie. He was never on your side. Socialism and nationalism cannot coexist, just as feminism and socialism cannot coexist. All idpol is reactionary garbage meant to divide the working class.

no thank you

Sorry, but the concept of a Vanguard is bad, and you have to be a retard if you seriously want this to implement it in an industrial country.
Of course it appeals to the authoritarians, because they all dream of being part of it. The problem is, there is too damn many of you.

That's why he desolved them all and had the cheka kill all opponents

It's a quote of Asser misattributed to Hitler .

571MUL47OR?

i think hitler was a great man. but even if i were to discover that i'm wrong about that, it would change nothing. i'm a fascist, not a hitlerist or whatever, and my beliefs don't depend on the greatness of hitler as a person.


empty rhetoric. let's just say it's perfectly possible to end capitalism without multiculturalism.

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he browses /r/anarchism

lol

hitler also said it in a speech.

go away you deluded fool

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you yourself might be sincere in terms of class conciousness, hitler was not. he was a fascist and worse so than mussolini. remember the first thing hitler did when he was in power was destroying/banning all free trade unions and putting communists, socialists and social democrats into prison camps or killing them straight away. the nsdap was financed by bankers and big business from the beginning, that's why the late Asser had to die who wasn't even particularly leftist anymore.

I swear to fucking god Nazis are clueless. That is a Gregor Asser quote. He was later purged by Hitler in the Night of the Long Knives. You are, once again, wrong. Kill yourself.

lol, calm down, buddy. we've been through this already.

Bullshit they can't. What can't easily coexist with nationalism is international capital.
The two quotes are false. The first is something nobody short of the villain of a hollywood movie would say. The second is easily proven wrong, as salaries went up and working hours went down under the NSDAP.

hey you're the cancer guy from the union of egoists discord who posts comments on trap porn despite being like fucking 12

all classpol is reactionary garbage meant to divide the nation

Substantiate your claim.


Except the "nation" is already divided, polblr.

Which nation are you alluding to?

Because Hitler's was fairly unified.

No.

Sure, one half was in prison, the other half had literal guns pointed at their heads, truly a united country!

this is what leftists actually believe.

Facts also believe that, but I guess your feelings don't. Too bad, they don't really matter.

Thanks m8, had a giggle. Also nice hitler dubs.

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For how cool that quote is you'd expect the start plough to look better

De Leonism literally predates Leninism

And it's twice as fucking dead, sadly

Also Lenin had good theory but we don't live in early 20th century Russia so that shits not gonna work anymore

The only reason people call themselves Leninism is because of the remnants of the Soviet Union. They need to accept the fact that Lenins models dead and revert back to Marx.

Lenin was a capitalist and a slaver.

This thread again?

I find it funny that you guys go like "follow my tendency, it has literally never failed, and it always succeeds", when in reality all of them have been tried and failed in different stages of the process.

But Lenin supported centralised planning.