What are the best revolutionaries in fiction?

What are the best revolutionaries in fiction?

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Bomber Harris sold me on him.

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Good taste user. Lelouch did nothing wrong. Anyways here's mine

Zabis a shit but I couldn't help kek at this

Too bad he was litterally

Aside from that he was based as fuck.

Have an Utena. I remember having a discussion about how the show was about Utena becoming a true revolutionary, Anthy was the proletariat, the other Duelist were opportunists, and Akio was the bourgeoisie.

Earth Queen was a arbitrary, unjust monarch. She deserved what she got. I wonder how it would've turned out if Zaheer had completely succeeded and he didn't have Korea stop and imprison him. Most of the fault in season 4 lies with the political establishment in their world basically giving Kuvira's fascism full reign to crush opposition in the Earth Kingdom till it gets out of control (like in real life). Then they try to hand it over to that idiotic Prince, and even he has the foresight to see that's not a good idea considering the previous events. Then they have the gall to blame Zaheer, when he was imprisoned and they were free, like in pic related

It was justified

But he litterally said that
he didnt advocate for horizontalist or other anarchists orginisation, he is a smashie on roids.

Korra is only good for the porn.

Weebs get out

This, but unironically.

Korra is amazing for porn

They had to portray Zaheer as a nutjob with no long term plan because they didn't want people sympathizing with him.
Same with Amon in season 1, there was no real reason for him to be portrayed as wrong in the story so the writers needed a last minute twist to make him a hypocrite.

correct opinion right here.

It's been a while but wasn't he literally trying to take people's abilities away to make people all 'equal' in terms of ability? That's Harrison Bergeron shit.

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Amon from the start was more of a spooky fuck with red flags than a communist. He hated people for their ability and litterally wanted to take all of that away for "equality". He litterally was the
meme

It seems to me that Amon then was a shitty representation of socialism from a liberal point of view.
And that Zaheer was a shitty representation of anarchism from a liberal point of view.
God damnit.

that's my point, the only character in the show who talks about equality for non-benders gets strawmanned to hell and ends up a hypocrite in the end. Then the entire equality subplot gets dropped.

forgot flag

Hammerhead was basically Lafargue incarnate. OPM was really missing me with that reformist fighting evil shit we /antiwork/ up in here.

A-fucking-men comrade.

I take the show as non-canon and forget it exists except for the rule 34.

Great intentions. Shit theory.
Too bad they all turned out to be pussies.

why do leftcoms have such patrician taste?

its libs all the way down

i also enoy malware and people getting my ip

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Only right answer.

Anime is fucking infantile, post something good.

best revolutionary is Sauron

The comic version, of course.

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Well we didn't really get to see him fully achieve his goals, tbh. After he took down the Earth Queen, he went straight after Korra, which is the right move, imo, since the Avatar tends to have a reactionary role in preserving the status quo from what we've seen. I think organizationalism is overrated and tends to lead to reformism anyways, and we only got to see the beginnings of a taste of a revolutionary terror under Zaheer's direction. If only the Red Lotus succeeded in kidnapping Korra at birth, I think things would've turned out much better.

I would have to say that Mr. Robot is definitely /ourguy/.

He's an insurrectionary anarchist with the (unspoken) goal to promote global class consciousness by destroying the entire capitalist system. In other words, he's a full-on accelerationist.

He subtly, then explicitly manipulates liberal idpolers and other centrists in order to further the socialist cause. This is hinted at in the second episode where he states that he will hit E-Corp (the economic lynchpin of the setting's capitalist system) with "racism, fascism, so many -isms that they won't know what to do." He's well aware that idpol plays a crucial role in modern politics and the mass media, so he takes advantage of this as a means of agitating liberals and galvanizing them towards the left. I would like to note that this is also his most likely reason for choosing people from a diverse background as the core of fsociety–it would work well for PR, should all of them ever be caught and exposed.

As the second season nears its end, it becomes very apparent that Mr. Robot is very apathetic and uncaring towards the liberals comprising fsociety. When the FBI closes in on them, he bluntly tells Elliot that the liberals on their own and that the movement doesn't need them anymore.

In a Marxist perspective, he's the most dedicated to the socialist cause out of every character in the show, surpassing even Elliot, who draws clear bounds for his actions. He's willing to straight up commit murder (and even kill himself) if it means that his plan to achieve socialism will follow through.

Some analyses of the show say that he's a criticism of the uncompromising "old left," but I disagree. I think he's meant to be the complete opposite. He's a way of highlighting the road blocks that the first world would face, should an actual socialist revolution occur there; namely, the large amount of people and "leftists" who would prefer the status quo over the achievement of socialism. This is reflected at the end of season 2, when two members of fsociety are shown as fugitives and on the run. One member exclaims to her friend that she "found a way to undo everything, and make things go back to the way they are."

I'd go as far as to say that this guy is one of the most leftist characters ever depicted on television. Mr. Robot really is slick entryism at its finest.

inb4 Elliot successfully stops Mr. Robot's plan, only for the entire world to go to complete shit, proving that Mr. Robot's plan was for the best

In part, that's what makes it so based. The big bad is literally a pathetic autist.


I'll have to check this out.

you will never survive a tightrope walk on a steel beam across skyscrapers while the capitalist class spectates at a wine party and prays for your demise

you will never cut off your own ear to sabotage an ear drum piercing head device just to beat a yakuza boss in a marxist card game

you will never wager your freedom on a tissue box raffle to a psychotic porky, lose, get sent to a forced labor camp, beat the kapo running a dice game hustle, temporarily gain your freedom and then proceed to beat a rigged pachinko machine at a yakuza-run casino by literally moving the building and then using your winnings to buy the freedom of all the inmates you radicalized

Either Shevek or Odo from Ursula K. Le Guin's "The Dispossessed" for sure.

This crazy rat

this tbh


also this.

If you haven't seen the Boondocks or Mr. Robot, get on it ASAP

oy! spoilers!
Is season 2 really that good?

4U

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Hideo Kuze has got to be mine.

LET'S ALL LOVE LAIN

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korra is intellectually dishonest as fuck and written by idiots

such a great book

Really, no one should ever go hungry again. Forgot to abolish the monarchy though.

Unfortunately true. It's a little heartbreaking how much potential it had and just fucking blew it. The worst part is that you can see the bones of a really good show and some really good plots, but everything just ends up a confused, contradictory mess.

Amon is a good example. He had a good point. After all, the planet is still recovering from a century long war of conquest and genocide carried out by a regime of magical fascists, and even as society begins to industrialize, benders are not only in a muh privileged position, but have an insurmountable material advantage. Regular people have some legitimate grievances.

But instead of exploring or developing that in any way it's just a vehicle for a generic badguy to try and take power, who for no reason exposes himself at the end, and then all this simmering underclass resentment is jettisoned and forgotten about.

Then there is this whole dieselpunk city they're living in that they also just stop developing after like the second episode.

HACK FRAUDS

didn't the humans in shin sekai yori have a communist society?

He's also a self-described revolutionary socialist and discourages wild opportunist terrorism in favour of targeted political action.

Fuckin' based.

No

Damn, now those are some serious Big Damn Heroes, ty for reminding me


Not sure, I mean, one of his persona seem to have a plan… But is it any good, or even on the right track ? Hard to know.

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what is this?

Kaiji

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