I want to cordially ask this board about thier opinion of beauty standards...

I want to cordially ask this board about thier opinion of beauty standards. Why is that all across the world white features are consider the most attractive?

Do you subscribe to our view on this (white features are objectively more beautiful), the sjw view (European beauty standards are what the whole world is judged against) or something else entirely?

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There's objectively no such thing as objectivity

If the entire world finds the women in the op pic attractive I think there exists some sort of objective beauty

I like Asian facial aesthetics a bit better.

Media may play a part in it. It promotes certain body types and whatnot as attractive. That's not to say the fat pride faggots would be attractive under any circumstance.

OP is a cockdevouring faggot

Seems legit

Gee, I wonder 🍀🍀🍀who🍀🍀🍀 could be behind this post?

You misunderstand. I'm not disputing objective beauty per-see i'm disputing objectivity altogether.

Pol never seizesto amaze me

I don't, I think they're all fucking nasty. White skanks.

Love doesn't give a shit about beauty standards, neither about society at large. Love just happens. It's a mistake, a catastrophe, even.

Liberals, like conservatives, want to abolish the potential for love.

Such as?


200% mad

what are "white" features and what are "white" women?

This is liberal fiction m8. Christ, go back to Facebook or something

subjective.
what the human brain sees as "beautiful" is in reality what it consider as "fit" and having the highest offspring viability.
thats why wealth makes your attractive, so does being fit…
there are some variations between men and women about what is considered attractive, but the rule is the same.

They're not really that well cherry-picked, the bottom middle one is the only one that stands out to me.

So you admit that they are "conventially" attractive? Explain what you meant

the Spaniard basically has your stereotypical niggernose hilariously

You are saying white people more likely to be seen as fit. That's quite racist

con·ven·tion
kənˈven(t)SH(ə)n/
noun
noun: convention; plural noun: conventions
1.
a way in which something is usually done, especially within a particular area or activity.

when did you read "white people" in my post?

so… whites are the masterrace because they are being seen as most beautifull?
so… not all races are actually "equal"?

that sounds highly racist and excellent to me…
to the gulags with you!!!

OK? Now show me a picture of a conventionally attractive black woman


Unless you're a retard you've noticed that white people are more often considered attractive, right?

Can't blame the OP for not smelling the crap when he's lived his whole life around it. In other news, intrepid 10th century chinese OP wonders why foot-binding is the most attractive feature in all women. More at 11.

Given that the dispute is about whether there is a connection between conventions and objectivity and if so how much that seems completely pointless

see


humm, no.
do you have a study for that?

This math is wrong

Conventionally attractive according to the OP, not that I personally find them as such. In the same way that people who are thin are "conventionally" attractive to most people.

At the end of the day my response is a big "So what?" anyway. Yeah, white people in general are believed to be the most attractive. Why this is considered some big "gotcha!" moment by race autists escapes me.

Disgusting

no giant black lip tattoos, don't know how you can even fucking look at them

a Holla Forumstard would never make stuff up, how dare you?!

if we take into account north America and Europe only (not counting slav, Australians, nzlanders etc…) there is well over 1 billion.
thats about 17%, lets assume that there is as many women as men (in reality there are slightly more women in western countries) that would be about 8,5%

in the us people see being tan as attractive.

God damn you won't engage with me

But if you were to post a convenientally attractive black woman, you'd probably post something like this. Now, I find her attractive, but her face is clearly very European, look at that small euro nose, lips and eyes. If this woman was born with pale skin you'd think she was White

That's my point, attractiveness even in other races comes from traits that are most often present in Whites

THANK YOU for finally admitting what the rest of these fuckers aren't. I appreciate the honesty

Holla Forums, where is your subtlety?

nigger that's the niggerest nose to every grace a nigger's face

As an American I consider hispanic(non-white) women the most attractive.

I wonder if this has something to do with white women looking more neotonous than other races.
And asian women look equally attractive to me, but they're clearly different, but I think the commonality is neotony.
Same with Ashkenazi women, and arab women.

I suppose the only women I'm not attracted to are the majority of black women.

Thick lips and a wide nose. Girl is black as can be. You like black women.

i have a thing for middle eastern women, idk maybe its just a fetish about submissiveness or some shit.
but they always gey my cock hard.

No it's not. The nostrils are too small and aren't turned upwards.

google : "race and online dating statistics". you will probably find some articles.

appearantly, other races are racist too (towards nonwhites and whites).

it is flat as fuck and wide as fuck. the quintessential nigger nose.
Also hilarious that you went and mentioned her fat nigger lips while ignoring her european as fuck cheekbones.

At this point I'm pretty sure white supremacy is so core to your identity that the only way you can handle the fact that you think this black as fuck woman is hot is by lying to yourself about all her black features actually being white.

I'm not claiming not to be Holla Forums but this is very important to me. It's a big reason why Holla Forums appeals to me

Look blacknosejob.com/black-rhinoplasty/ black people getting their noses to look more white are actively making their nostrils bigger and point up more your perspective of what a black nose is is literally the OPPOSITE OF REALLITY.

Has there ever been a self-own this bad in the history of Holla Forums?

Racial shit is a big reason Holla Forums appeals to you? I'd love to know why this is so important to all Holla Forumsacks and aspiring ones.

Bad example, I just took the first Google image for hot black woman. Look man why can't you just admit reality like this guy

Then maybe we can move onto the next stage of debate. Features most present in Whites and white people are disproportionately considered attractive. This is a fucking obvious Truth

You can't hide behind it being a bad example when YOU YOURSELF crowed on about how beautiful her black features were. you love dat black booty

you managed to figure this out just now? what kind of newfag are you

user, its up to you to back up your shit.
ain't gonna do your homework.
beside, i already explain how the mechanism works here .
there isn't anything mystical about it.

The degeneration of the white woman in today's society has affected me profoundly

Who fucking cares what the majority of plebs think is attractive?

lol
I'm not Holla Forums, I was the guy talking about how I find pretty much all kinds of women attractive except black women.
Holla Forums is about "racial purity" or some dumb shit like that, but as long as you breed with an equal race there's no harm done, but Africans are really the only race which is lesser than every other race.
Arabs are cool without islam, asians are cool without collectivist ideology, jews are cool without jewish supremacy, white people are good without idpol, corporatist, and empire bullshit.
It's really only black people that seem inferior to everyone else.
This place needs to get IDs already so you chowder heads can actually know who said what.

Because pale skin was associated with wealth and power. Upper class women could say in side and get waited on all day while peasant women had to work outside, leading to darker skin.

Ironic that Holla Forums thinks it's evidence of their white supremacist bullshit when it's actually an example of diamat in action.

Im sorry i was not aware that this was outside of your knowledge zone.

There have been many studies and articles about this subject (dating, mostly online and race).
What kind of proof, or document or … thing would you find valid?

How you spooked weirdo

Now admittedly google personalizes results but I'm not getting that original pick (lel you deleted it to hide how hot you think black women are)

Buddy you had that pic fucking saved long ago we all know it

? thats not how evolution of skin colour and race work tho ?

are you trolling?

Those women are all AT LEAST 25% white or asian.

How about some actual studies

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Thanks for admitting the obvious truth that features most present in Whites and white people are disproportionately considered attractive. I really appreciate your honesty

In what way?

1. They're not.
2. Define "white".
3. The countries with the most money and influence tend to impart all manner of social aspects onto less influential countries, such as beauty standards. If Japan were the world's biggest and richest country I have no doubt european women would be trying to make their eyes squinty and dye their hair black.

It's just to demonstrate how you're probably lying about having grabbed it off google to hide the fact that you had the image of the girl you loved the nigger lips and nigger nose of on your hard drive.

I think he's talking about idpol ideology spook type stuff.
You hardcore commies are alright, don't go to the SJW meet up tomorrow.

Top Kek, that wasn't me you clam chowder head.

I just like good looking women, regardless of race.

You're pretty cute you little gommie cat, you want to be cummed inside while you teach me about gommunism?

okay doesn't change the fact that you're arguing with something that was never stated

HHHHHHHHHHHHNG
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Lighter skin =/= whiteness. If you think this is some proof of the inherent superiority of white people you're retarded. It's literally a confirmation of Marxian sociology. It demonstrates that the material conditions that led to ruling class people having lighter skin gave rise to these traits becoming socially desirable. It's the formation of superstructure around base.

i would appreciate a scientific pepper.
in the end this is pretty much the same bs as Autism Level.
some people are dumb, some are smart but you guys always try to make it about race and autistically consider that everything is either black or white.
obviously, you always put yourselves in the good side of the fence despite most Holla Forumstard bring neither smart nor attractive.

But why did white people end up as the ruling class?

Basically they are 99.5% sex fiends and whores who have taken at least 10 culturally diverse dicks at least by the time they are 19. They like to "party" join sorrorities and shake thier ass to nigger music and post it on Instagram. I'm 25 years old and a virgin, but I've cleaned myself up, yet I can't be happy with a white woman my age because I know they've done all that. I'd rather be alone than be a beta provider to a girl who has already had her fun

well, this is a good example. Im not really into internet dating, but i think Okcupid is a pretty big dating website? no?

theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060

worth a read i guess, its super normie biased, so it might be a bit hard to read trough but… the results are still there

Lucked into an empty continent because their diseases killed everyone, looted its resources and then used said resources to subjugate everyone who hadn't lucked into an empty continent

yeah note that the moment the poors started working in factories suddenly beauty meant A Tan

But white people were the ruling class even before establishing the American colonies I thought.

I guess

See this is the problem right here;
Nobody is saying its ALL about race, but you people keep saying it has NOTHING to do with race.

wich is biologically false.
Your bias is showing trough this exact post, wich. At that moment in time where you where writing that post; you where experiencing cognitive dissonace because your brain was processing information that your ideology doesnt want you to process.

No, PALE people who didn't have to work in the fields were the ruling class, basically everywhere, regardless of the race or races involved

I mean jesus this is all in a chain tying back to the post "ligher skin =/= whiteness" you gotta be willfully dense to read things like that

;^3

toiletcat thread

what did he mean by this

gulag yourself cumskin

Don't think we can't see through your foul and vile shillery, 🍀🍀🍀celt🍀🍀🍀. They should have never abolished the Black and Tans.

[citation needed]

point out the dissonance.

That's not very nice, just because some one has more or less melanin doesn't mean that they deserve to be insulted.

Except black people. They are barely human.

why is it so hard for you people to grasp , that if there are differences in average Autism Level's of the races, that there are also other differences between the races (other than Autism Level)?

basicly, biology is all about this.

I meant I want to cum inside your puss puss.
I unwrap my lizard, pressing it against your stomach, do you wish to continue?

ah excelent you guys use a filter for some words. that will surely promote a healthy discussion (lol)


Well, it works with autism levels too. replace intelligence quotient with… basicly any statistic that is derived mainly from biologic factors (and some enviromental too) and the argument still stands

shit b8 m8

the fact that you react with fierce emotion even tho i asked it in a normal sincere way.

But i cant feel your dissonance, because it is happening in your mind.

Just gotta fight b8 with b8 sometimes m8

point out the fierce emotion

Good job retards

race doesn't exist, any categorization based on race is as valid a categorization based on the color of your sock.
you will still find one group having a higher Autism Level level than another, this doesn't mean that the color of the socks have anything to do with it, nor does it mean that your Autism Level is automatically higher because you're wearing the same color as the said group.

just sayin…

i enjoy arguing on the internet

if race doesnt exist, how come racism exist?

its because the white man is evil right? but wait.. .who is the white man… if race doesnt exist?

if it is just skin colour… what about eye colour?

do you even know what genetics is?

Have you ever heard about evolution? and do you think you understand it?

fucking newfag trying to "redpill" us i see.
as if your fellow Holla Forumsype haven't been trying for years and always went back to their torture chamber with their tails between their legs.

Do you?


They get BTFO in every thread they come into, I'd just spare them humiliation and ban them.

but then we never would have gotten that Holla Forumsyp deleting his own post to hide the evidence of how much he loves fat nigger lips and flat nigger noses

im not a newfag, nor am i trying to redpill you guys.

i came here to laugh at you :D

Vinesauce is not for dumb Holla Forumsyps

k

Dude men and women have always fucked like rabbits. Oh no, young people having fun! Time to stay "pure" and slam my head into the walls of my padded torture chamber forever.

Go fuck an escort or something my dude, golden ages of the past or whatever the fuck never existed.

its funny to see your memes and how hard you try haha :D
I have some friends that are antifa, so i know how "tough" you are.

fuck off and die cuck

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I'm not Holla Forums, but I'm not a gommie either.
Maybe you let me cum inside you and I maybe become gommie?

not sure if serious or troll

either way, hilarious

Why are you so mad about girls getting dicked and that you aren't that culturally diverse dick?
The greek life is for normie yuppies with interests in "philanthropy" or managing mommy and daddy's bank.
Why are you mad at people dancing to hip hop and r&b and shit like that?
Be with someone like yourself then.
Beggars can't be choosers, laddy. ;^)

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They didn't you mong read the post. Ruling class people had lighter skin because they weren't working in fields all the time. They were literally just less tanned.

nigga what

how can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't?

persecution based on a false idea ?
allot of people have been killed in the name of god/Allah desn this make him real?

your stupid is showing, just like other Holla Forumsype before.
you guys try, and fail, then you get more and more ridiculous and turn to ad hominem attacks.

its always nefags trying to be smart ass thinking they'll BTFO us.
he should do like his fellow Holla Forumsype and stay in his torture chamber.

i'm sure you do.
you guys are strong on self delusion and Coué method

unironically because of cultural hegemony and the dominance of western media on the world stage

not fair, you shouldn't give me a boner this early in the morning

maximum kek

I highly doubt he knows what it is

Obsessions?
like all that race shit? Nah, I don't actually care about race, I was just fun posting.
And I ended up on 8ch cause they aren't indoctrinate with idpol.
I also go on reddit to look at cute cat and dog pics.

Now THAT is a perfect white specimen if I've ever seen one

If race does not exist , how come racism exist:

If our eyes are not real, how can mirrors be real.

yes, you got it, that is exactly my point.
but that only works; as in; its only weird; if race does not exist…
same with the jaden smith quote; that only works , if eyes are not real.
But… eyes are real. so its a really really dumb comparison to make in my opinion and it shows that you dont really know what you are talking about

you only need to understand evolution and genetics to know this, but i guess thats just too much to ask :)

;^3

women used to chew on chalk to appear more pale

This basically. I haven't heard a good argument why, if white features are in fact globally considered the best, this isn't a reasonable explanation.

Having said that I don't think the whole world only appreciates white features.

Light skinned Asians being internationally revered isn't an indication they secretly want to be white, its an indication that their product is selling well.

The prominence of skin bleaching and hair conking amongst blacks isn't an indication they secretly want to be white, its an indication (according to every black person who discussed this topic) that they hate being black. Although it could also mean, just like wanting to bang a light skinned Korean teenager, that the product is being sold.

Also, how come Holla Forums argue that the white race is diverse but he rest of the world basically falls into three categories with no differences?

not sure if b8 or if you're legit stupid enough not to understand the concept of persecution based on false ideas.
ex: religion.

persecution based on false ideas?

i dont think that is a concept, that is a sentence.

I want to make the point that Eurocentric beauty standards existing doesn't prove any sort of supremacy on a genetic level. People find what they consume through media most attractive and the majority of media comes from Hollywood which has been largely white for a long time just because of the demographic of that area. Saying that people prescribing to those beauty standards must make them objective is like saying pop music must be objectively better than any other genre.

Also, i really don't find any of those women that attractive

The persecutor just needs to BELIEVE that a group exists in order to persecute people under the perception of being said group.

If asian countries had industrialized and imperialized first (which I'm sure any group to industrialize first would have become imperialist shortly after), than asian standards of beauty would be aesthetically preferred

I don't doubt that humans have innate sets of features we find instinctually attractive (generally indications of health and fertility), maybe white women happen to possess some of those features to a greater extent on average. Probably a combination of these two things.
irrelevant (largely) to politics

I'm unironically more attracted by magical cartoon horses than humans and I don't get why is so hard for you to understand the concept of subjectivity

Science proved that there are some characteristics, subject of personal tastes, that makes some females more attractive than others, and all of them are related to some child-like feature (huge eyes) and the well distribution of the body fat/ability to give birth to a healthy child. None of them are related to the skin color. Now i explain why.

If Holla Forums was really that cultured on the field of "evolution" he may have already found out that the skin color is an adaptation to the latitude.

A darker skin is meant to protect the cells from solar rays and the possible damage to the genome that can induce cancer.

A whiter skin on the other side is an adaptation to northern latitudes where there are less sun rays, so a darker skin may prevent the synthesis of Vitamin D that is activated buy the sun light.


So if the darker skin is so less attractive, why it has been naturally selected in the first place?
The sexual selection pressure should have promoted the whiter skins for everyone at this point.

While the white skinned people may be the most searched thing for the youporn statistics, the same statistics says that males nowadays prefer big rounded bottom and big round lips, which are a typical "non-white" feature from Holla Forums's racial standards. But we already know that Holla Forums cherry-picks the most convenient characteristics to pretend that races exists, as long as the skin color is the thing that makes the difference.

Last but not least, the aesthetical standard change from time to time, so what people likes today is not the same standard of 30 years ago. So in 10 or 20 years big bottomed black girls may be the must.

actually, people that deemed are very attractive, usually have "perfect" symetrical features. and have a healthy figure.
Also, being tall is seen as attractive, are you going to say that people in hollywood are all tall?

It's biological and happens mostly subconsciously, its natural selection.

I almost agree with you, except pol really doesnt care about the colour of the skin technically.
Its just that the colour of the skin (among other things) is an indicator of race.

It has more to do with genetics than perceived beauty.

I don't think you understand it too mong.
The science consensous says that what is called "race" is just a marginal genetical diversification among humans compared to the diversity among subspecies for other animal species.
So marginal that genetically a white man and a black man are more similar than a white male and a white female.

And please don't tell me that the the scientist are puppeted by 🍀🍀🍀them🍀🍀🍀, because this is just a woo. Nothing scientifical.

right the cherrypicked things that i've said that you use to pretend that race is real.

The Finns and The Maori have more genetics in common than Ethiopians and Gambians.
If it's about genetics than there should be no such thing as the black race

So in their subjective opinion their own race is better?

are you assuming europeans are the only ones with symmetrical faces? Your issue is with nose shapes, cheekbones, and eyelids. These can be symmetrical without being the proportions apparent in most european populations. Try again

Also want to add that asian women tend to have the most symmetrical faces of any women in my experience

Im Nordic male and prefer latinas or arab girls.

Where do you get this from? Undoubtedly there's some idealization of Western culture and thus of Western beauty standards (as points out), but I imagine most Asian, African, etc. countries have their own very different standards.

I personally like Latinas a lot, although I have a thing for non-redhead Irish girls.
Will probably marry someone Asian because I'm beta as fuck though.

Our view: asians are master female race

This. If whites are so perfect why do they commonly idolize darker shades of skin. See, Schwarzenegger or any other rich white guy left alone with a brown a woman.

Also, if light skin was universally favored then what's up with tanning? Can anyone explain that to me?

This

I like how your pic defines "white".
So, it's only north/nordic/germanic countries that are white, right?

So South Europa isn't white, right?

AH! BUT YOU SHEE!!!

It's actually class related!
Back when all peasants were tanned from the sun in the field, white/pale skin was idolized.

Now, everyone is white because office work and only the rich can afford to get tanned by the sun, so the opposite is true!

They threw an Italian and Spanish woman in there.

ugly nose and manly face

But what about south Italy and Spain?

Andalusians are white?

I like her nose personally, but I could see where someone might disagree. But "manly face?"

"marginal genetical diversification" becomes "major genetical diversification" over time.

You know this right? in the beginning, there wherent that many species or races… or … types whatever you want to call it (or diversity).
Any difference in races/ethnicities/species (whatever word you want to use) is a difference that will either make it more or less succesfull in some situations.

I dont see how this discredits anything i said. Besides; "the scientific consesus" is fucking bullshit,in science, science is science, there is no consensus.

So, a black man is better for the sun and a nordic white man for the cold.

Sure.

IF YOU LIVE IN THE MIDDLE AGES!

We live in modernity faggot. It's not racial characteristics that make us more or less succesfull.

I like blacks and Asians
And latinas
White is boring

Middle Eastern and Hispanic women are the most attractive.

Also the types of civilization and culture that are particular to a group of people are probably a combination to genetics and the people responding to their environment.
You can't just say that differences in genetics only make a difference to physical traits.
Is it fair to say that everyone from a particular area that looks similar is exactly the same or worse or better than any particular group? No, but it's good as a rough way of conceptualizing groups of people.

remember
latinas>black&middle eastern women>Asians>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>dogs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fish>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>white"""""""women""""""""

I disagree
Latinas=Jewesses=Arabesses=Caucasesses=Asianesses

I'm not sure why everyone here hates white people so much.
It's almost like you're all REACTI(onary)NG to Holla Forumss hate of everyone not white.

M A T E R I A L

C O N D I T I O N S

Latino is not a race.

It's a rough way to say people that are a combination of Southern European and Mestizo. Also some African, sometimes.

AKA Not a Scientifcly Defined Race.

Not that there is such a thing anyway…

Sure thing, Pedro.

What's this meme?
I'm not a gommie, sorry, I just came here to fun post.
If it counts for anything I don't like Holla Forums(except its hate of idpol, but then everyone not stupid hates idpol anyway), and I hate the way that those that own the capital abuse and exploit people, and how they increase human suffering for others in order to gain more material possession.

Once again, finns and maori have more similar genetics than ethiopians and and gambians. The vast majority of human genetic diversity is within africa. If it's about genetics than there is no such thing as the black race.

But it's not a any of the other races, it's become its own.
It overlaps but not enough.
Latino is ABCD
Southern European is CDEF
Mestizo is ABGH

It's a combination of different groups, thus becoming its own.

The "levels" of a civilization, or the "criminality" of a "race" depends on the material conditions of the area and socioeconomic structure.

For example, in 1900 US the Greeks, Italians and Irish were most criminals, cause they were the poorer minorities and so on. Like the mexicans and blacks are now.


Again, no scientificly defined races, of modern science.

I just meant that when two groups of people are of equal economic levels, the sorts of cultures and civilizations they create are a reflection of their environment, history, and genetics.

Of course poor people are going to be criminals.

Well, take Saudi Arabia for example.

You see the same amount of Middle Class there as you see in the US?

And again, genetics is BS when it comes to socioeconomics.

Latina=ME>Asian>Black>White

White women are an acceptable choice and better than your hand, but why would you fuck a white bitch if you could have anything else?

Why do you hate white women?

Just because we live in modernity, then what? then nature doesnt apply anymore? how foolish must you be to believe that… why would that even be the case?

Lmao it never ceases to amaze me how many people fall into this; like Polish nazis for example.
I'd beat these peoples' asses for being so foolish.

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Muh nature can change with clothing, food, shelter.

Centuries of cultural imperialism.

yo I like black girls I don't know what you're talking about

I dunno, maybe she's nice? :c

They're boring, look worse, and have insanely high standards despite being average looking.

Come on fam.

stop bumping this fucking thread holy shit
MODS BUMPLOCK THIS

Stop being butthurt no one wants to fuck your pure aryan sluts.

I don't know, man. Have you checked Holla Forums obsession with Azns? I personally prefer Latinas.

Boring how? What about them makes them boring? What about other girls makes them interesting?
Neato opinions, next time you're stating opinions start the sentence with something like "I feel", or "I think".
Most women have roughly the same standards.
Or do you mean white women that live in some shit hole like California or New York?
cool opinions

Oh look, it's one of those thread where you can't tell who's Holla Forums pretending to be leddit and who's legitimately leddit.
Super quality thread.
Sage & Hide.

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only 3 of the women you posted have "aesthetic" faces

black women, including pure black african women can be extremely aesthetic. excellent cheekbones, gorgeous noses, glowing radiant skin, the beautiful curly hair.

asian women can also be angelic.

Hispanic, Italian, Lebanese women are much more attractive than most northern europeans

Northern european women often suffer from harsh, plain and masculine features. they're not ugly like perhaps the stereotypical ugly pig English housewife, but they're very rough looking. They lack tenderness, warmth, femininity in their facial structure. Southern european, mediterranean and Latin women all have this in spades.

Lastly there are extremely attractive biracial women and there are many cases where mediocre looking people produce attractive off spring. So even if whites were as a whole better looking it still doesn't mean they are the source of beauty.

I think the extremely high standard of living in Sweden allows for their population to be so healthy for generations. If ethiopia was thay healthy it would produce legions of modelesque aesthetic beautiful ethiopians (ehtiopians are a prime example of a gorgeous nationality of non-whites)

2spooked2furious

This so much, that's why I much prefer Asian women, they have such rounded, smooth feminine faces, the attractive ones anyway. Whereas 'attractive' white women have far sharper and more rugged features, I mean look at all the square heads and man-jaws in the OP pic.

Okay, thanks.
I wonder why that is though.
Maybe something to do with Africa being the birth place of humanity?
Maybe they've evolved to become extremely adapted to their specific environment because they've been there for so long.
But has every other group changed so little that people from the opposite side of the world are more similar to each other compared to people living right next to each other?
How does that even happen?

mdr

the people we see as "fit" often look like our parent of the opposite sex btw

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Humans are all innately ugly. There is not a single beautiful huma-

Skin color is probably a result of vitamin d deficiency causing miscarriage.

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Third this

Were you expecting an autistic graph comparing "Beauty Quotient" and sources such as "the college board"?

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fat people were attractive in tudor times because it was a show of wealth

Beauty is objective. Facial composites of tens of thousands of people tend toward an aesthetically pleasing golden mean for a reason.

no its not

wrong and dangerously stupid thinking
wrong again, equally stupid line of thinking even if you were somewhat right. Which you're not

Sounds like somebody is butt bothered humans are programmed to be attracted to certain universal traits and doesn't want to admit it. It's okay.

humans aren't machines they can't be programmed like a computer, the brain is distinct from a computer its not a turing machine, there is no evidence or proof that it is, its an unsubstantiated presupposition of bio-physicalist epistemology.

Humans are attracted to all kinds of things including asymmetric facial features and people like Benedict Cumberbatch wouldn't be in high demand if this wasn't the case. Plenty of asymmetric facial geometry is selected for by women and men. Total nonsense. This gnostic, statistical approach to social dynamics is indicative of autism and a disconnect between academic theory and observed and lived reality. The reality is, an attractive symmetrically faced women may prefer a man with an asymmetric face. This is evidenced by countless couples where this is the case. Humans are not machines and they are not bound by any deterministic law. They are free agents and are free to select for what traits they find pleasing. Your line of reasoning breaks down as soon as we start observing who is with who.

lol all irrelevant if a woman fancies a man, you know nothing about seduction, the influence of mood on sensory data or the workings of the female sexual dynamic. Just gnostic proclomations based on steretyped thinking and stats, which is to say manipulations of limited data.

This is the Holla Forums worldview, what's funny is that 19th century neo-classical, romantic racial science is completely indicative of post-modernist, a-moral, mechanistic materialist capitalist culture. There could never be Hollywood without the California eugenics movement and there could be no Madison avenue without the propaganda of Fascist Germany

Anglo-Judaic advertisement culture goes with Germanic beauty worship.They're not separate

Yeah whatever. Typical commushit line of arguing.

not a real statement, just rhetoric
Yes we are, and even most fascist philosophers recognize that this is the case.
Yes and they aren't strong trends if there are mountains of exceptions, most of which are caused by wealth and early adolescent co-development with mates who would otherwise not have been selected for due to social pressure and propaganda (advertising IS eugenic propaganda from Germanic, Anglo-Jewish cultural engineers).
Laughable straw man, no one is saying that disfigured people are going to have attractive spouses. What I'm saying is that a 6/10 man can easily marry an 8/10 women with the right combination of personality, seduction, upbringing, social status and decision making. This is proven countless times over throughout history and will be proven again countless times this weekend as 6/10 guys propose to 8/10 qt's and the woman says yes and you sit there alone and angry.

lmao buddy you are insane

Wrong.

Beauty is solely subjective.

wtf am i suppose to see here?

from "evo-psyche, bio-tech, cog psyche" team that was funded by advertisors and deep learning companies.

Lol you guys run in circles, your logic is totally loopy

Nothing, there is nothing to see. His argument is that people who aren't disfigured or deformed all look similar and that all races preferred faces converge to one archetype, but the variation among those faces that "conform to type" (old racial science is the basis, you'd do well to learn about it) is so massive that this argument isn't scientific and only works if you are part of the evo-psyche, socio-biology nonscientific world

And I thought MY side was full of delusional brainlets.

I want the PoMos to LEAVE

Thesis: Beauty is objective because humans trend toward a standard set of features
Antithesis: Beauty is subjective because people find radically different things attractive
Synthesis: Humans find beauty through a complex interactions of programmed and learned preferences

this doesn't mean what you want it to mean

people of all levels of attractiveness marry each other, many royals were ugly fucks, many conquerors were unattractive, many titans of industry and by proxy their descendants are not very handsome but marry attractive women. There are models married to average looking men. You are equating, Germanic brood-mare eugenics obsessed SS ideology, with 19th century social engineering orientated "race science", American eugenics and then Anglo-Judaic-Germanic propaganda based visual advertising. The Chad is more likely to get pussy, he's also more likely to be a stupid brute and to scare away certain types of attractive women. Which is why plenty of attractive women do not date or fuck Chad. This is a fact, and it occurs often enough that it breaks any notion of biologically determined standards of beauty. You're literally repeating ad nauseaum lookist retardation.


There is no nuance to your thinking, it is arrogant and self asserting. Where i might have conceded that certain patterns of facial structure are preferred under certain circumstances, I'm not going to do so because you're arguing in such a loopy and disingenuous way.


not all women are whores, not all women like the same style of face, not all women submit to chad not all women are going to prefer european facial aesthetics. And it goes doubly so for men.

They seriously all look the same, even their facial structure. Fuck off with your ugly sluts.

I'm going to take a screen shot of this.
thanks to this I finally understood the Thesis, Anti-Thesis and Synthesis.

Thank you Hegel.

literally this
dialectics fam, can't be one sided in your analysis of anything

I don't think I've argued this anywhere once in my posts. I'm not going to address the rest of your post becuause it's typical leftist bloviating. Bye!

This if we're being honest my dudes.
What people consider Physical Beauty is generally the same, but who people end up with romantically is dependent on a wide variety of factors.

but then Beauty is a social construct.
uhmmm.

Beauty being objective doesnt follow from your avarage theory.

The fuck are you talking about?

which means beauty is subjective and what people consider a good partner and parent/person to combine genes with, is entirely subjective. Which means sexual selection which is done for the interest of the species but mediated by the discrimination of the individual is subjective and not based on a rigid standard of beauty based on facial symmetry and angle.

No she's cute, she has a boyish face but she's still quite attractive

A boyish face makes her cute. "feminine faces" like the shitty american slut ideal this nazi keeps spamming are fucking disgusting and they honestly make me want to punch them in the face.

There is an outside world, but the observer can't escape his own sujectivity.

Well I'm not sure we should use the term beauty to describe the reasons people get together in a romantic relationship.
And I do think that generally there are a few main reasons, aside from physical attraction, that people end up together.
Generally if the man makes enough money, doesn't need to be a millionaire, but does need to make more money then she does.
If the man treats them well, and vice versa.
If they have similar life experiences and perspectives on the world.
And generally everyone involved needs to healthy, physically and mentally.
I'd say it's objective to a point, in that each individual wants generally the same things, but how those things are expressed is different.

Yeah, but we can get closer and closer to objectivity, so we might as well fucking try.
Other wise it's all fucked.

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you should because they think of their partner as beautiful for often than not and want their children to resemble both of them (including their partner). Which is a pre-condition for breeding with someone willingly and intentionally.
Yes, but you can't separate those reasons
Yes wealth is a sign of intellectual and social power which is a form of attractiveness that's not factored in by visually biased standards of the metaphysical aesthetic concept of beauty. The nazi was arguing disingenuously, by presupposing extremely narrow standards of visually and eurocentrically biased beauty which skews the parameters of the discussion towards his desired scope.
Yes and recognizing ideological compatibility in a mate is a form of beauty recognition, the mind is beautiful and women much more so than men will admit this. Contrary to all neck beard and redpill fag posturing women are the aesthetic sex and they understand the multi-dimensional nature of beauty for thoroughly than men do.
No that's nonsense
Its not objective

Have you perhaps considered you're gay my man?

humans aren't machines, our brains don't function like Turing machines and we have epigenetics and agency which acts on epigenetic mediation of gene expression. We are self-creating organisms, who have the faculty of self awareness and metacognition. Something that no machine can by definition ever have. The human body isn't modular like a robots nor is it mechanistic like the engine of a car. Its self organizing, holistic, interdependent and highly sensitive to influence by mental states and the behavior of its environment (something a car is not, its sensitive to the environment being extremely volatile but not at all to small variations in air pressure and humidity like humans are).

Yea man liking


Guess cars also arent machines either since they dont work like them either.

OH! You mean Symmetry!!!

Yes, symmetry is objective.

I was ignoring this thread until now but then a remembrance occurred.

I'd say we have the possibility of having agency, but if we're never taught how to be aware of what influences us to take whatever action in any given situation, as well as our learned responses and how to recognize and circumvent them then I'm not sure we /do/ have agency.
I'd say that everyone is capable of agency, but everyone has varying degrees of it.

yea man liking girls is gay.

The girl in the picture on the right looks okay regardless, I'm not one of those asians=master race guys either.
But the girl on the top left of the fat girl looks like John fucking Lennon. What the fuck.
Otherwise I think if they lost some weight and got better hair cuts they'd all look alright.

I'm 100% sure you need glasses.

Do you only have these 2 pics to post?

The art of make-up is sure an amazing wizardry.

Wow I'm convinced, hail hitler.