I'm not sure how well the people here know what happened to Holla Forums over the past year or so, but it has been completely taken over by the Trump Cult. It's fascinating as fuck to watch, kind of like a documentary on Scientology or the diary of someone descending into madness.
I'm going to give you one example from the OP of a recent thread re events in Syria.
That wasn't a sarcastic post, and if you read the thread, anyone who disagrees with the OP is being shouted down.
This type of cultish Trump worship, which has been enforced by the moderators there, will probably kill Holla Forums as a board. I thought it would be a matter of many months, but this could kill the board within weeks. It's just too insane.
wannabe nazis turn out to be young republicans. film at 11
Ryan Jackson
Are you honestly surprised? Right wingers are some of the most melo-dramatic people.
Adrian Brown
One of the posts:
Utter insanity.
That sums it up well, actually. The edgiest of edgelords are won over by a real estate promoter and reality TV star with a bumper sticker ideology but who is somehow a secret WhiteNationalistRahowa1488WPWW guy like them. In spite of everything he has ever actually said and done.
Melodrama and LARPing.
Samuel Hughes
why settle for Trump when when you can go with the original cult of personality of comrade Stalin
Sebastian Sanders
It happened with the liberals and Obama twice. Thing is though, Trump is in a unique position for being the most hated person to be elected in office, which could be work in our favor.
Benjamin Hughes
This is happening for the same reason Trump thought he'd be a good president - they don't realize how messy politics actually is. My favourite recent moment was when Trump acknowledged that health care was actually complicated, as if he'd never realized it before. The same thing will eventually happen to all these Holla Forumsacks once they realize that removing Obama and screaming about Mexicans isn't a magical cure.
I'm looking forward to it myself.
Samuel Myers
Why are you surprised, you tranny fucking faggot? Holla Forums's hotpockets have been shit for a while and turning the board into a stormspace had the natrual effect of morphing it into a cheerleading squad for the first daddy they could find. Trump could have his wife and daughter get gangbanged by niggers while he smoked a cigar with Sheldon Adelson and Holla Forums would ban anyone who thought that was gay.
Ryder Hill
he will get impeached
Jeremiah Peterson
President Pence/Ryan in a year, he's attacking his own party, and if his approval ratings continue to plummet they'll let the democrats can him.
Really Trump was just a means to get into office for the GOP, they wanted to win and he was their best bet. If his base abandons him though they'll cast him aside, they have no reason to continue paying him lip service.
Logan Phillips
You should read this, user. Frequently failures like this will only strengthen the convictions of the true believers.
Julian Anderson
Really all of this is sort of discouraging. One exciting thing about Trump's election was the radical shakeup of the US political system, but if he fucks up so badly that everyone just defeatedly slinks back to the status quo it was all for not.
Thanks a lot Trump you fucking retard
Owen Price
They…DO realize that the God Emperor isn't supposed to be a heroic figure, right?
it was literally a paid shill operation. This guy wasn't the only one.
Mason Hill
Funny, considering how he talks more and more like an establishment Republican as the days pass. McCain is getting to him. Holla Forums is about to witness the Obama hangover, when the people realise that all the hopeychangy was just eyewash
Joseph Jenkins
The credibility of the mainstream media has been pretty much skewered, and I don't believe that will change, even if they are opposed to Trump and appear to win in the end if he is impeached or reaches Harding level disapproval ratings. A lot of the Alt Right and Alt Lite that don't distance themselves from Trump very soon will also be damaged. In fact, it's probably too late for them to not take some loss in their credibility.
There are a lot of good alternative media sites that will deservedly rise in prominence, such as Glenn Greenwald's The Intercept.
Let's just hope Glenn Beck doesn't make a comeback tour.
Jack Carter
The Obama comparison is a fair one, but with Trump I think the turnaround will be much more drastic. Obama as a person apart from his policies rarely gave you much to hate him for, though Fox would take many of his statements out of context in order to do so. You could disagree with Obama, but not think that he was peevish or overtly narcissistic.
Obama also knew policy and played his role well. Obama could actually explain his healthcare bill in detail, which of course Trump could not.
There are a bunch of comparisons that could be made, and Obama wins almost all of them. Trump is way funnier and more alpha in many respects, but those can be double-edged traits.
Jason Nguyen
So you're saying a nigger is smarter than an aryan fuhrer.
Nathan Torres
It's not even that great of a compliment to Obama. Trump is a senile old man with holes where large chunks of his brain should be
Charles Campbell
Obama is an excellent politican, never has a president been so beloved by his base for doing very little other than drone bombing arab children and passing a pretty shitty healthcare act
Hunter Kelly
excellent analysis of the situation on pol…
hahahaha keep it up
lol
i like it how leftypol complains about pol. :D totally fits the pathological wirings of leftists, you complain about things and people that are succesfull because you are not.
Carter Barnes
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Austin Cooper
Didn't work for Marxism though, did it?
Austin Phillips
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Alexander Mitchell
Milo's not even a leftist and he made this thread lmao
Eli Price
This OP is actually almost total bullshit, read the threads, they are going to throw Trump away if he does this, it's the complete opposite of the OP.
Michael Russell
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Jackson Lewis
There are few Stalinists left, and those that are left have greater convictions than ever
Cameron Rodriguez
Holla Forums has doubled in size in the past 2 years, whereas Holla Forums has shrunk slightly, but that's not even the worst of it. Holla Forums has basically tied their fate to the success or failure of Donald Trump, and imho you have some rough days ahead. Holla Forums could actually break up in a matter of a few weeks if Trump spergs out in Syria or does something that is otherwise so stupid that even his adulatory fans will have the veil lifted from their eyes, and prompt a mass exodus when they realize they were fooled for the past 18 months by an enforced status quo.
Ideally, things would go back to something like 2011 4chon/new/ where there were a lot of different perspectives and an underlying sense of humor about things, now that your strident National_Socialism failed so miserably as a political ideology.
Xavier Walker
You're being too optimistic.
Leo White
They probably will, but that is not the point of the thread. They are saying, with absolute certainty and no tolerance for dissent, that Trump is playing 4d chess and will fool everyone by…oh fuck, I don't even know what they are fantasizing anymore, it is so retarded.
Meanwhile, in the real world, Israel is building their first all-new West Bank settlement in 20 years, which will start off with 2000 units.
What in this universe or the next is Holla Forums fucking smoking?
Ryder Brown
Probably, but that was a formula that actually worked.
The adulation of Israel in an administration that claims to be nationalist and "America First" is almost surreal. No other administration in history has gone as far as Trump's in kowtowing to Israel. Obama got blasted for one security resolution against Israel where the United States abstained from voting, whereas Ronald Reagan did that 21 times.
still upset by being told the fact that you will be hanged for being a degenerate homosexual? cry moar faggot
Elijah Baker
doubled in size… lol Half of your posters are from pol. and a lot of your activity is bots and stupid people reacting to bait.
its funny to see how you obviously dont understand what pol is all about if you think we/they are trump fanboys. but lets not let that get in the way of your delusions about how things are going to pan out.
Leo Gray
It's less that Obama is a mastermind politician, but rather Trump is such a dumbass that if Obama shot Trump and had a 3rd term right now Trump's approval ratings would be at a record high.
Jeremiah Taylor
im in love
Isaac Walker
Holla Forumsack damage control in the face of a changing tide is simply delicious.
Josiah Hall
A board with as little thread velocity as yours having more than 300 users is absolutely retarded,
Noah Nelson
Stop being such a massive newfag and let someone that knows how to shit a board up properly take your place. Nobody gives a shit that you've just come over because you heard it was back up on twitter or whatever has dragged your fresh faggoty self over.
Elijah Kelly
you missed the part on "stupid people reacting to bait" i think
but… evidently it is obvious that you would make that mistake.
Aaron Morales
You're the best example I've ever seen that public school was a mistake.
Ryder Taylor
This is what you are going to say to outsiders, and of course to yourselves, that you didn't really buy into the Trump thing, you just liked the wall but you were always a skeptic, and it was really a bunch of guys from Reddit who made you look like complete morons.
Other tactics will be to blame everything on Jewish son-in-law Jared Kushner, or to blame imkampfy and therealmoonman for your inability to create a board where people spoke freely about Trump. Funny thing that /polk/ does the same thing in banning people who criticize Donald Trump granted, not as bad as Holla Forums and 8ch.pl/pol/ with hardly any traffic still managed to anchor a recent thread critical of Trump.
Sad!
Sebastian Green
Welcome to imageboards reddit friend.
Hunter Johnson
He says, posting from his school wifi.
Dominic Rivera
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Camden Gutierrez
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Leo Myers
nice quads
praise kek
yeah you are almost there. you just miss some piece of information as to why this is the case (getting banned for criticizing trump). its right in front of your nose. Its amazing that you dont see the value in this.
but i guess its too hard to put all the pieces of the puzzle together.
Sad!
Ian Green
Learn to write coherently you illiterate mong
Owen Gonzalez
Time is different all over the world, mind blowing isn't it? Good to know you're on the east coast, further confirming my suspicions that it is full of dumb faggots. t. europoor
Kevin Miller
Oh i'm sorry, I forgot almost all of you faggots are shittershoah'd brits, like that faggot who made the vocaroo in your trail of queers thread.
Jackson Ward
Can you have your inevitable heart attack and fuck off already?
Josiah Brown
Thats no way to talk to people on the internet…
I wish people would just respect eachoter a bit more
:( i am vvery dissapointed in you my comrad
Ayden Barnes
Wow I can't believe I guessed it. What a comeback, I bet you were the gay little retard who made it. There's like what, 20 actual users here?
Jonathan Garcia
Check out La Chinoise, it's a great film. Also, The Baader-Meinhof Complex.
They haven't been stopped. Trump suggested it, like all American presidents do, and Netanyahu ignored him.
You have built an entire system of belief on code words and dog whistles and the mildest of symbolic gestures, but you keep believing that Trump is some massive critic of Jewish power. Funny nobody told Steve Mnuchin or Carl Icahn.
That didn't even happen. I'm guessing you don't know much about the politics of that region.
Anyway, enjoy your LARPing.
Luke Lee
So you admit you're a fatass?
John Harris
Projection has always been a communist's greatest strength besides starvation, venezuela anyone?, and I've been on enough college campuses to know the average marxists weight.
Chase Clark
Brilliant rebuttal
Isaac Jackson
Well when your final argument is I don't have much to work with spook.
Ian Peterson
Huh yeah wow really BTFO you can't handle the funny Holla Forums memes kiddo I am over 18 and have had sex I'm in fantastic shape and own four sports cars and I'm a CEO of a fortune 500 company and I have a supermodel wife and a supermodel mistress and making over a bazillion dollars every day and you are all autistic neckbeard shut in virgins who live in their mom's basement who are also over 30.
Now stop this exchange with this fucking child
Ryder Green
I was permabanned for criticizing Trump on Holla Forums, so I stopped posting on Holla Forums. If your argument is that the Holla Forums community is too ineffectual to stand up for themselves and instead bow to the authority of that board's mods, what does that say about them? Nothing too good.
Kevin Ramirez
when the 1488 dimensional chess kicks in
Jaxson Bennett
Jealousy is one of those emotions so powerful, it often comes out unnoticed tankie.
Ethan Long
Yes, people tend to starve in capitalist economies, what of it?
Camden Nelson
Stop paying attention to me and talking about projection in every post, it makes it look like you're projecting.
Leo White
Every time.
Truly deserving of the cherished final slot with /furry/ and /mlp/
Aaron Morgan
how can you not worship the man who shaved vince mcmahon's head?
Isaac Wilson
thats not my argument
Christopher Roberts
I'd be willing to bet a lot of money you couldn't make an accurate case for this
Parker Brooks
You are shitting up my thread with irrelevant nonsense you brain dead redditor cultist.
Adrian Morris
Faggot, you obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Weren't you faggots the one inviting plebbitors from /r/socialism as your board truly started dying? Kind of like how the American left had to import third worlders who will actually vote for them, unlike non retards?
Logan Thomas
Trump couldn't explain his bill because he probably didn't even read Ryan's bill.
Isaiah Cook
I admit, some cute girls wore the MAGA hat.
He didn't have to read it to know that it was a great bill that would make everyone happy, and the American people loved it, and he would have passed it so fast that it would make your head spin, but the guys from the Freedom Caucus, they got tired of winning, they were a bunch of sore losers who never won a thing in their life, and they did everything they could to make sure this great bill was withheld from the American people. Now that's sad!
Hunter Mitchell
The evidence you've presented suggests that some cammers put on the hat to drive lonely aut-rights to their shows.
Elijah Thompson
"girl"
fucking fag
Carson Martin
Ive been banned from pol for saying this, but the BO of pol and jim had been bribed into turning pol as a hotspot of trump support on the net.
there are logs and a whole doxx somewhere, but the site is pretty well dead and its irrelevant now anyway
Ayden Johnson
But why would somebody even waste their money when Holla Forums's Holla Forums only has a couple thousand active users, and 4chan's Holla Forums was already doing a good enough job of it?
Camden Ramirez
Pick one, faggot.
Aaron Fisher
I would hate fuck that trap.
Jack Reed
Why would it be surprising that a group of needy, delusional power-hungry wannabes surrendered their soul and will to some false idol speaking tongues and milking snake oil? From the early days of /n/, /news/, 4chon etc, Holla Forums has been a group-think torture chamber for needy snowflakes with a bad case of sour grapes. It was only a matter of time before they suckered in to some charlatan messiah the same way cult members submit to their cult leader.
William Reyes
Between the two of them, those guys have seen half a boob and it was when one of them tried walking in on their sister changing.
Leo Nguyen
Or maybe they're just traditional girls looking for traditional guys. Too bad Trump didn't live up to the promise.
I'm skeptical tbh. Guys like imkampfy do it for free.
Ethan Reyes
Nationalizing things isn't inherently socialist. The economy was overall capitalist but then again retards like you don't understand what a mixed economy is, the workers did not even own the means of production so they didn't achieve socialism. Big government=/=socialism idiot, but you also think communist "states" are a thing its you who doesn't know a thing about socialism.
Lincoln Jenkins
Presumably because the Trump campaign correctly surmised that 8/pol/yps would be able to devote many more manchild-hours to shilling for Trump. It's less a question of numbers and more about spare time available to devote to the cause. People who get paranoid and angry enough at a laotian cave-painting board to up and leave for another one obviously don't have a lot else going on in their lives.
Jack Scott
You're such a fucking retard. Go read a book before you come back
Grayson Lee
Someone just posted this masterpiece of pure delusion in that Holla Forums thread.
Zachary Jenkins
i like you milo
Benjamin Adams
They're no better than attention whoring pandering gamergurls and SJW/tumblrytes.
The ones who're genuine are taken or wouldn't feel the need to attetionwhore in the first place.
Cooper Hernandez
I was hoping that Trump's absurdly vulgar antics would help remove the mask of Enlightened Capitalist Poltical Class™ but it looks like liberals will just find a way to blame it on the fact that he fails because he's an outsider and therefore as long as we get someone with the same policies but more well-mannered demeanor then everything will be alright again. The fact that so many Dems and Repubs are saying "Well I might not agree with everything Pence does but at least he ACTS LIKE A POLITICIAN" is a shining example of this.
I think we're all fucked no matter what honestly.
Landon Torres
Jesus christ…
Jack Reed
Thanks, user. :-)
If you mean cam girls, you're probably right, as is true of the vast majority of women in the sex industry.
Americans are fighting the beast from inside. I'm glad I'm not an American, no offense.
Julian Robinson
Because it would have been the result regardless of who got elected?
Eli Green
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Christopher Parker
god fucking damn it i hate histrionic bitches so fucking much. they have no other purpose in like than be like
Dylan Sullivan
Fuck you, no Not Socialist actually supports Trump. Holla Forums got subverted by Kushner and his crew. While I don't expect anyone on here to sympathize with us "Nazis" since were obviously enemies, I at the very least expect you to realize that the genuine white nationalists have been thrown out in the gutter by nu-Holla Forums
Ayden Miller
What did he mean by this?
Caleb Fisher
I liked old Holla Forums more, they weren't as insufferable as they are now and didn't infest everything, I sympathize with you.
Anthony Thomas
You know exactly what I meant. Trump worshipers don't actually care about preserving white countries or maintaining the environment, they're just edgy Republican kids who want to be "cool" They're the white kids on the football team who exchange banter with their black teammates but harbor deep anxiety and discomfort towards them.
Genuine white nationalists don't have the same racial obsession that /r/the_donald users have. We're not the ones who started throwing the cuck shit around everywhere. I'm honestly pretty disappointed in the way things have turned out. nu-Holla Forums claims to finally be winning, but is it really winning if you had to become a shadow of your former self to get anywhere? Real White Nationalism, real Nationul Socialism died with The Third Reich, it's never coming back. The best I can hope for now is to live my life out peacefully and grow a garden.
Oliver Harris
Yeah but actual Marxism is practically dead, given the hilarious failures and incompetence of the USSR and Mao's China
Tyler Perez
He hides it well
Liam Wood
Use the ashes of the local black hookers as fertilzer
Nathaniel Long
I almost feel sorry for you. I mean, race is bullshit but at least you have an ideology that isn't memes. I can respect conviction.
Kevin Phillips
i'v been saying this on Holla Forums and half Holla Forums 6 months before the election. the fag is a con artist and a Zionist faggot. the shilling on half Holla Forums was unbearable, they didn't even bother to make it subtile and were confident enough to be tripfags
instead of standing up to the obvious bate, you guy bite it as hard as you could. you guys got carried away because he rubbed you the right way. -fuck minorities -build wall ! you went blind and ignored everything else.
you made him win he won, the real kikes/bankers won, and his family definitely won they're still running the business, backroom deals and making more money now than they could ever dream of.
and what did you get ? an average republican president with mediocre political skills.
you're right, i have no sympathy.
Henry Smith
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but "white nationalism" is dead in the water since "whiteness" is an ephemeral ideology produced by the massive dislocations brought by mass immigration to the US during the 19th/20th century and antipathy towards blacks
Jack Bell
Jimbo mis definitely a big time Trump supporter. I was banned multiple times from /newsplus/ for CTR.
That was
Nathaniel King
The reason I believe that white nationalism, and ethnically homogeneous societies are a good thing isn't because I think that there is some magical meaning to the race that you're born as. I'm looking at it from a practical perspective, human beings are violent animals that have a tribal mindset. We kill eachother over differences, real and false. In the long run, we'd all be better off living in ethnically and culturally homogeneous societies, with some trade, but no colonization or long term assimilation. White Nationalism and Nationul Socialism is in my mind a utilitarian and empathetic system, but my point of view is not shared by many, and I no doubt expect humans to continue their interactions and continue their wars instead of separating and minding their own business.
World War 1 was a tragedy. World War 2 was a declaration by the human species that it refuses to learn form its mistakes. I no longer have hope for the future.
Owen Lewis
You're playing word games and dealing in semantics. You and I both know that both blacks and whites, and any other ethnic groups you want to pair up don't get along in the long run if they are forced to live together.
Kayden Howard
Again, the problem with "white nationalism" is that "whiteness" is essentially meaningless - just look at the problems the Brits have with Eastern European mass immigration (inb4 "They're just cucks that are too afraid to criticise the darkies!")
Being surrounded by white people speaking an incomprehensible language really is marginally better than being surrounded by non-whites doing the same
Connor Campbell
That's easy to say before mixing happens but that ship has LONG past before you or I was ever born. The truth is that in isolated communities people find more and more obscure things to care about and discriminate against and then bullshit divisions like hutu/tutsi or "normal white"/italian happen. Because as long as class structures are enforced somebody has to be kept at the bottom.
James Rogers
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William Edwards
user you can be critical of "white nationalism" without cucking out and declaring that a multiracial society is superior
I sincerely recommend checking out mpcdot.com, they have much better critiques of "white nationalism" than I can fit in a single post
Carson King
You sound more like a nazbol than a nazi. Remove economic conditions for immigration and suddenly ethnic communities are reasonable.
Jacob Sanders
Literally all of human history would like a word with you.
Kevin Ramirez
You're deliberately misunderstanding my points in an attempt to sound clever. I understand that "white" and "black" are man made classifications. That doesn't change the fact that those classifications came about naturally through interaction. The cats out of the bag, and I don't see you getting your feathers ruffled over black nationalists and black power people or over the Japanese. You know just as well as I do that humans operate with tribal instincts. You're just not a fan of white (European, Caucasian, whatever you want to call us) people existing for some deeply ingrained psychological reason.
Christian Sullivan
Don't strawman me, I never said it would be utopia. It would still be full of suffering, but the crime rates in country like Japan, and Sweden a few decades ago, are much lower than in multicultural societies.
Oliver Parker
Buddy you're on /tardpol/ sense doesn't work on them.
Austin Jones
Look, even "if" every Jewish and non-white person disappeared tomorrow, The United States of White America would still be stuck with at least one hundred million whites advocating incessantly for the importation of other non-whites.
Again, one of the major problems that "whites" face is that massive economic dislocations and population movements have eroded any sense of local/regional identity
Bentley Young
Here at Holla Forums, we don't discriminate. We hate all idpollers equally. You're just the most relevant group on the internet at the moment.
Lincoln Peterson
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Brandon Gutierrez
Sure thing, fam, I believe you. I'm sure you're real upset about the Afrikaners who are going to get their farms taken away from them and given to "black" people instead.
Jace Rogers
Most of us aren't antideutsche here
Ian Sanders
Lmao dude you're so naive. Zionists are fucking scum, and no serious leftist would ever tell you otherwise. Black nationalists are completely irrelevant but you best believe if any serious black nationalist movement had state power behind them like white nationalists or zionists do we'd be all over that shit.
Josiah Scott
Point me to your thread on South Africa.
Elijah Parker
1. Zuma and the ANC aren't black nationalist any more than Trump's admin is white nationalist. Stop being such a histrionic liberal 2. I specifically implied a relevant world power, not some meme country that let's you cry on the_donald about how whites are totally oppressed somewhere
Christian Evans
Everything is going as planned. Trump is doing significantly more harm than good to their cause. Everybody is talking how stupid he is even here on the other side of earth.
Joseph Wright
Yeah, you're totally not biased at all.
Jackson Sullivan
Who the fuck said "idpol"? Every fucking pleb movement on earth is fucking idpol. You have some fucking liberal standards for freaking the fuck out.
Also it's hilarious that I'M biased for not giving a fuck about fucking South Africa of all places.
Juan Davis
Oh, and your autism is so high it made me somehow skip over the fact that the fucking EFF is a fringe movement, and you might as well say that America is run by the Libertarian Party. Seriously, if you want to have a genuine conversation about world politics you can start by cutting way the fuck down on the melodrama
Isaiah Cox
user, you're ignoring the fact that this tribalist mentality is just a tactic of the ruling class to divide the working class and turn us against eachother on the basis of superficial bullshit rather the economics. Even if you were to create an ethnically homogenous society it wouldn't solve the economic issues of the people, and the ruling class most certainly wouldn't want to give up their position, so they would just find some other way of dividing people up, even if they're all white. Fucking hell, even things as benign as being left-handed were once stigmatized. The problem with a society that uses "the other" as a scapegoat for its problems is that when that group is gone and the problems remain they will need a new one, and eventually you may find yourself in that group. The simple truth is, that regardless of ethnicity, culture, gender, sexuality, or whatever, all people strive to meet the same basic needs. If we can work to create a society where all these basic needs are met, I think people would have a much easier time coexisting regardless of superficial differences.
the fact Holla Forums backed someone so openly proud of his Jewish heritage and so pro-Israel is just weird.
Considering they ignored Mike Huckabee, who promised to eliminate gays, on the basis of "he supports Israel".
Then again, 95% of Holla Forums are mongrels with brown hair and brown eyes, they know they're not white and they lack the balls to fight a Nazi masturbation fantasy. Holla Forums is ineffective, they have no impact on the world whatsoever. Anything they do is meaningless.
The scary part is that if/when Trump is thrown out, we have Pence- a Christian god warrior who will strip women's rights and probably have gays shot. Church attendance will be legally mandated, science will be outlawed and kiss free speech goodbye.
Colton Flores
4chan's Holla Forums and Holla Forums's Holla Forums both dodge the topic and accuse people of being "shills" whenever Trump's Jew bootlicking is mentioned. Holla Forums's Holla Forums bans you too.
Both Holla Forums boards think they memed Trump into the white house.
Ethan Jenkins
Sure are a lot of middle aged, laid off factory workers on imageboards these days
Jace Campbell
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Nicholas Evans
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Joseph Green
They memed JonTron out of some add deals. The dialectic between reactionary politics and liberal politics was unavoidable. They were just around to meme about it.
Angel Bailey
I dont know man, tribal mentality existed long before "ruling class" was created
Nolan Wilson
Translation: I am a dumb animal that does what my nature says and have no self awareness or free will
Alexander Baker
First of all this is not possible because basic needs evolve with time, 500 years ago having electricity wasnt a basic need, not in first world countries it is considered a basic need
Secondly people tend to be unhappy after all goals are accomplished because they suddenly lost all meaning and purpose Schopenhauer has written about this
Isaiah Peterson
Marxism is still an active part of the Left, it never "failed" because the work of Marx was never about any particular kind of socialist experiment.
Jaxon Davis
Depends how you define "basic needs" but we definitely have sufficient shelter and food if nothing else. Abysmal distro though
Carson Edwards
And you are not mister enlightened? 99% of population is enlightened with excellent self awareness and free will? Look at empiric evidence
Easton Wilson
4pol>>>8pol
Julian Wood
The thing is you cant strictly define them because they evolve
Both are shit, there are better places
Ryan Martin
I agree with that to some degree, at least that I understand the basic resources that fuel a society as well as the means of transportation/communication change and so on. But I'm talking on a very base level, where we're discussing meeting the needs that people will literally be driven to violent unrest without invariably. The things that threaten survival enough to be worth picking up a weapon and fighting for them. I just don't see that many people picking up an AK to fight for their broadband.
Michael Moore
Well either the become enlightened or like animals, they dont have any real rights and should be used as a work animal, we feed it and that's it
Camden Bennett
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Ian Rogers
Now if only i had some more money.
Honestly though, some people have been brainwashed by nationalism, religion and other retarded spooks to the point they are unable to imagine their lives without them, it has become such an integral part of who they are i am not sure even months of therapy can elevate them to a self aware rational human being.
I have no empathy for such lowlie creatures, they arent useful for a discussion and will only cause problems unless they are caged and limited and fed.
Gabriel Gomez
Actually they passed it without explaining the detail at all. People just followed the medias lead of blindly trusting Obama and thats how we got in this mess called Obamacare.
Trump is getting very extreme scrutiny from the press which means his decisions will be better.
Brody Jackson
To give some leftypol-specific context to this, Holla Forums could basically implode, maybe even within days if Trump takes military action against Assad.
This might be an opportunity for Holla Forums to pick up some new people after their "National_Socialist dream that somehow led to them becoming part of a Trump cult" is shattered. This could become the largest political board here as the Holla Forums userbase scatters across multiple boards. Not everyone will be able to rationalize that the only problem with what happened was imkampfy.
Also, I think the post-GG impression from those who are uncommitted that Holla Forums is somehow cool, but Holla Forums are a bunch of SJW faggots, will be pretty much shattered.
Easton Hernandez
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Jose Nguyen
I doubt you will get anywhere, considering leftypol (CTR home base) wanted Shillary to win and we would be in wars already if she did.
Zachary Butler
Not sure if bait or genuine retardness
Daniel Brooks
Yes, user, I remember when this board used to post Hillary's face on Eugene Delacroix's famous painting, and they would permaban and shout down people who questioned that Hillary maybe wasn't a secret anarcho-communist who used to watch Guy Debord films and read the works of Raoul Vaneigem & Bob Black, and that her time among bankers like Goldman-Sachs wasn't merely an opportunity to take down names of the Enemies of the People. I mean, Hillary herself gave clues like when she told the bankers to "cut it out!", she was rehearsing what she would say at the guillotinings, and to let all of us know her true intent.
Holla Forums was just as pathetically deluded & depraved as Holla Forums, no question there.
Leo Gray
As Holla Forums enters the end stage of their affliction, they completely separate themselves from reality. >>>Holla Forums9639558
Aiden Johnson
Not my fault you cant live and survive without spooks in your life
Bentley Harris
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Gavin Hughes
We will dox you all
Justin Foster
what went wrong with Holla Forums
Brayden Sanders
The lunatics took over the asylum and a strongman came along for them to latch on to.
Joshua Flores
They've completely lost it
Christopher Phillips
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Joshua Rodriguez
In case this is not bait, let me clarify: Holla Forums hates the democrats more than you will ever do. That includes the Clinton who bombed Yugoslavia; the Obama who got completely scot-free out of putting healthcare into insurance companies' hands, killing God knows how many people in war and starting a personality cult arguably worse than Trump's current one at the same time; and Hillary-I came I saw he died- Clinton. Don't even remotely think we are a perfect opposite image of Holla Forums just cause they were tricked into latching into the GOP. The one and only reason you hate dems in the first place is the progressive mask they wear to bait people into voting for them, when there's so, so much to hate in them. Several traits shared by Trump, in fact.
Both are propaganda. I don't think there's any media, specially in Burgerland, who doesn't follow an agenda imposed by a lobby or a wealthy individual to a tee. Mainstream or not.
Aaron Nguyen
I don't understand whats so hard for people to realize all the mainstream news stations are owned by people with political agendas or have strong ties to those who do. Right or left they're all just trying to skew you towards them.
Blake Rogers
There will never be unbiased news, everyone has an agenda, EVERYONE
William Carter
This. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Elijah Ortiz
Assuming what the other ones is fake or dishonest, and justifying that whatever yours does is in the interest of "good".
When the antifa backlash was in the height of its popularity, I remember Paul Joseph Watson vomiting some news straight out of conservative Spanish media outlets about an antifa gang beating up a "poor innocent girl whose only crime was to wear a Spanish flag". When in reality that girl was an actual neonazi kingpin who called herself "Inga Levy" on social media, had the Odal rune tatooed and even had a criminal record (to top it all, her grandfather was the founder of a far right political Murcian party, and some people say she has relatives in the government, I've certainly seen a female justice minister with both her second and middle name). The actual beating, all on camera, started after she got into a fight with a girl from the antifa group, who came to talk to her, and they kicked her once they had separated them and she was on the ground. So, with the "spanish flag" narrative pushed, something that was impossible to check on the recording was established as the motive for a gang fight who didn't even end with anybody in the hospital.
And of course, the conservative media started denying she had a criminal record, and called her a child, even though she was 20. She would have been fine if she and her whole gang hadn't beat up a family and been identified months later.
And I forgot to mention. PJW doubled down and flat out invented the people beating her up were "muslims". And since it was a video of some people beating up a girl from a foreign country, most comments I saw were just eating it up.
I believe Americans call this "chinese whispers".
My point exactly.
Nolan Harris
don'cha mean *sunglasses* yellow journalism?
Alexander Taylor
From the pol thread:
Holla Forumsyps we will have prime recruiting opportunities in the near future. They might just end up being short term alliances, but if we can get Holla Forums talking about revolution and overthrowing the govt. it will be a step in the right direction.
Kek, good post comr8.
Most major media couldn't even be called left or right wing or at least not in the sense that Holla Forums and Holla Forums are. The whole MSM shills for capitalism and globalization. Any meaningul anti-capitalist or economically nationalist policies will never receive air-time or endorsement. The MSM is only right/left in the sense of taking a strong stance on meaningless smoke screen idpol issues like affirmative action, trannies etc.
Landon Butler
A war torn, xenophobic dystopia is exactly the kind of world Holla Forums wants to live in.
Carter Brooks
Sounds good to me
Noah Bennett
They'll be among the first accused of heresy and shot to death
Daniel Rogers
You know once the bombs start dropping it's gonna be
Followed by
Liam White
What it will be is a shift to a demonization of Muslims, which is very evident in the Alt Lite and frankly most forms of mainstream conservatism. Holla Forums already fell to this in part, though there are still strong elements of Holla Forums who are more knowledgeable on current events who strongly support Assad, Iran, and Hezbollah as players on the international stage, and are also sympathetic to the tragic plight of the Palestinians, while opposing Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey. I suspect most of the people like this aren't Nazi, but agree with Holla Forums on some issues, so keep up a dialogue on there.
Anyway, everyone here is probably familiar with the narrative of the evil Muslims, whose religion is that of hate, and are in a 1400 year war against the kindly Christian West that dindu nuffin, and who can't be reasoned with, and turn down sincere offers of peace by Israel because they want to exterminate all the Jews, build a Caliphate in Belgium and rule the world.
Henry Rodriguez
We wuz kangs folk dont come around here too often, however you are. If it makes you feel better we think they're equally as retarded as you are.
Jayden Young
4/pol/ is really divided about trump too now. more than half the board has turned against him for his decision to attack syria
Nathaniel Cook
They can go fuck themselves.
Angel Long
Remember when everyone in halfchan was a lolbertarian and Ron Paul was the savior of the world? This is the same Idpol bullshit. Now that Trump is acting like a neocon prepare to see them lean more to the center right.
Elijah Brown
Ron Paul could have prevented this.
Wyatt Butler
o i am laffin. This is like when Holla Forums honestly thought CTR agents were infesting /new/ instead of typical anons who had dissenting viewpoints.
Jaxon Lee
Uhhh, there is more than one person named Milo. I highly doubt Milo Yabbalappoulus is posting here