is there any substance to third-worldism beyond
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Is there any substance to third-worldism beyond
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Joshua Cox
Why would the first world revolt? Even absolute wage slaves find solace in Netflix and weed, they have to hit complete rock bottom and make shoes in a Chinese sweat shop to get redpilled on class.
Robert Walker
You mean because they live comfortable lives on the back of the thirld world
Blake White
I'm assuming you're class concious and more than likely live in the first world. If you can do it why cant your average jerk off with a 9 to 5?
Daniel Mitchell
Lack of any social ability leading to ignorance of Western society and a hatred of their native working-class. That is the substance behind third-worldist theory.
Christian Hall
Some people in the first world DO revolt. They just usually turn to criminal activity. Rather than do revolution. Because revolution is just not feasible. The government is armed to the teeth.
Drugs and suicide are other ways in which people "escape".
Wyatt Sanders
They aren't entirely wrong about the degree of economic hegemony the Global North holds over the Global South, but they honestly take Lenin's theory of Labor Aristocracy to the point where they argue that there exists no white working class whatsoever, I've also seen many claim there's no working class of color in the West either, arguing that absolutely no one is economically exploited by Capitalism in the West. Now, I'm not saying racism hasn't been a historical obstacle in organizing workers, especially in the United States, but this is also a ridiculously naive and overly simplistic way of trying to explain why we've never had revolution in the West.
Parker Phillips
Netflix and Weed isn't going to help when porky takes away their healthcare and starts feeding them tainted meat cuz food regulations is scary socialism.
That's why third-worldists are retarded, they haven't noticed the downward spiral of first world living conditions for the poor in recent years.
Adrian James
There has been a downward spiral in living conditions in the first world due to a combination of stagnant wages, slashing of benefits/public programs and inflation. Money goes further in the third world than in the first world. In the third world, they have shanty towns. Shacks. That may be low quality shelter. But it is still shelter nonetheless. The homeless here on the other hand aren't even allowed to live in a tiny house. The state won't allow them to live in a tiny house. So if you can't afford to make rent for an apartment, you're fucked. You gotta go live in a cardboard box. Or maybe find a way to live in your car or something. You can't even go live in a shanty town.
Jose Davis
That all said, I do agree with third worldists on one thing. Even though living conditions are worsening for the first world working class, the first world working class refuses to do much of anything about it. Some turn to crime like I said before. Some turn to drugs. Some drop out of society and become NEET (me included). Some commit suicide (possibly me in the future). The first world working class don't do revolution. They are so full of despair that they see no point. The working class make up the majority but most people won't do anything because they are afraid. People don't want to lose what they still have. And the people who don't have anything and are the most desperate usually turn to crime or suicide.
When my dad dies and my savings dry up, I'll probably get into "carding". If I only steal like $2,000 per month (to afford a modest living) and take precautions (use TOR, etc), I probably will stay under the radar enough for the feds to not bother coming after me.
The problem with career criminals is that they get too greedy and get in over their head. And then they don't slip under the radar anymore. You don't need a lot of things in order to be happy. But if I had to choose between stealing someone's credit card information and being evicted and starving, I would steal.
William Turner
No, there is no substance whatsoever.
Kayden Cox
That all said, it's not as easy to get away with carding as it used to be. People are getting smarter.
For example it's common for carders to use stolen credit cards to buy bitcoins (one of the most practical ways to exchange stolen credit cards into money while minimizing your chance of getting caught). But a lot of bitcoin dealers now require that you take a selfie with your ID when you buy bitcoins. Even if you buy a fake ID, you're still exposing yourself by showing your face. A lot of fraudsters however don't really care. They are really desperate to steal.
The path of least resistance is to find a bitcoin dealer who doesn't take a lot of precautions to screen for fraud. And try to take him for as much money as possible in one sitting (keep it under $10,000 though, that attracts attention). And then put those bitcoins through a mixer and then sell those bitcoins for cash. Because you never know when the card holder has anti-fraud alerts set up on their card. Or when they are going to check their statement. Once the card holder finds out their card has been compromised and cancels the card, then you lay low for awhile until you need more money. Then you buy another stolen credit card and do it again. If you defraud a bitcoin trader of say $3,000, even with the commission they charge, that much bitcoin could last you for over a month easily if you live a semi-frugal lifestyle. I would feel no remorse doing this because
A) the credit card victim will get reimbursed by the bank
B) the victim's bank will make the bitcoin dealer take the hit
C) the bitcoin dealer is most likely a libertarian/ancap. So I would feel absolutely no remorse stealing from them.
Zachary Flores
The main argument for Maoism Third Worldism stems from a economic analysis of the global community and it's relationship to productive forces. Over the past 50 years the first world has outsourced its productive labour to the developing world. I would estimate that approximately 70-80% of first world labour is now based on the services industry.
An example of this would be a service worker in an Apple shop in New York and a production worker who works in a iPhone sweatshop in China. According to traditional Marxist these two people are of the same class and therefore have the same class interests. This is clearly a fallacy as the service worker in New York clearly benefits from the low wages of the Chinese worker (Not to mention the African workers who mine the minerals for the iPhones) labour as it makes the product he sells cheaper. Therefore it is in the interest of the New York worker for the Chinese worker to remain exploited.
Nathan Cook
they have the same kind of zero sum economic thinking that the right wing does, they just came to the opposite conclusion. the oppression and poverty in the third world benefits the extremely wealthy. In the mid 20th century you could claim the middle class western workers benefited. however that is long gone. Most of the problems in the third world come out of lack of infrastructure, education, and longstanding instability introduced by colonialism. like yeah if you paid third world workers fair wages and had them work fair hours certain things might be a bit more expensive initially, but this would be balanced out because there would be more people to buy goods made in western countries. plus by enriching, educating, and freeing people from sweatshop labor some of them would end up making productivity increasing inventions
Noah Butler
What does the apple cashier care if the iphones he sells are cheap or not? He gets a wage unless apple does some kind of profit sharing that I'm not aware of.
Juan Price
For the average human to live like the average U.S citizen we would need 7 Earths. It's ridiculous to believe that 'fair wages' in the third world under the current global capitalist super structure would result in anything less than Haitian levels of belt tightening in the western world considering that barely anything is made or produced in the west anymore.
Dominic Ramirez
Apple is able to use the profits saved by using third world labour to offset the expenses of paying the New York worker.
Dominic Harris
I don't know much about this ideology, but let's assume the third-worldists are right, and revolution in the first world is impossible. What then? Are we just supposed to wait for revolution in the third world, or move to the third world ourselves, or what? Is there any meaningful action you can take while still being a third-worldist?
David Gonzalez
Nigger revolutions only happen when people are literally starving, believe me there is no shortage of food in the USA. In fact, they could stand to lose a few pounds.
Caleb Flores
No.
Samuel Martin
The Chinese middle class is now larger than the American middle class, while third world billionaires are a dime a dozen. In the particular case of the PRC, maoist third worldism served as an ideological justification for the modern capitalist state and
Nolan Ortiz
Support anti-imperialism in the west by organising with anti-war movements, have solidarity with third world anti-imperialist movements, expose labour abuses committed by multinationals and just general sabotage and agitation in the west.
Josiah Martin
China is hardly third world at this point to be fair, I know Jason doesn't consider them to be such.
Jaxson Hall
Obamacare only existed for 6 years and most people hate it, they weren't revolting before Obamacare, most people were insured through their employers, and those not insured would still go to the hospital anyway. You're regurgitating straight DNC talking points, nobody is revolting because of losing Obamacare. Even calling it "taking away their healthcare" shows how gone you are.
They've been eating tainted meat for years and they don't care.
Lay off TYT for a few days, it's turning your brain into mush.
Elijah Gray
Literally starving people can't man barricades. Also food scarce Americans tend toward obesity because they can only afford McDonalds. Why do I get the feeling that you're a bouj larper?
Chase Reed
go to the trashcan and never come back
Nathan Cruz
if you consider voting for a progressive government a "revolution" you ARE the evidence for third-worldism
Hunter Peterson
Theology and eco-fascism.
Easton Williams
it's poor theory and an abomination
surely an anarkiddy like you should be able to relate