Serious question. No trolling

Leftists =/= liberals

We're against liberals here. We want for workers to run their own firms, for people to do whatever pleases them and doesn't hurt others, the minimization of harsh labor and maximization of material wealth for all, and to eliminate state tyranny and promote the direct sovereignty of the people. All that race, religion, and gender stuff is liberal identity politics - we run on class politics. Welcome.

Stop. You are fighting identity politics with identity politics. Why would you fight retardation by being retarded in the other direction.

The reason you're wrong is the same reason SJWs are wrong. Politics should not be based on identity. Politics should be based on your material position and the strive to improve your situation and have your government work in your interests. And your best interest have nothing to do with how white or black you are, and I'm sure if you really reflected on it you'd probably agree.

As for the terrorism thing, we're just as much against terrorism and unchecked immigration as you are .Though we are pro immigrant rights, we don't like that liberals just want to bring them in as more or less a slave worker class, and we DEFINITELY don't want to decrease the standard of living of the workers in the country that the immigrants/refugees are coming to.

But if you have a real interest in stopping refugees and immigration, wouldn't you rather complain about the cause of the problem, which are the unchecked wars and imperialism that fucked up their countries in the first place, than to wait to fix the problem after it is a problem? We're "not freaking out" because we're busy trying to plug the leak in the boat while guys like you are trying to empty the boat with a small cup and then getting mad that we don't care as much as you do.

No, socially liberal trump supporter is just libertarian lite

Because you are stupid and need a better education system

What the fuck is going on here, I agree completely. Have I been bamboozled by liberals?

Don't need to reflect at all, I 100% agree. Damn.

Why are you a Trump supporter? He's completely opposed to you on those issues you mentioned. Let me guess, you're pissed about the JonTrons of the world and that's more important than the poor, sick and LGBT getting fucked over?

Your entire political worldview is based on a spookish persecution complex.

Don't confuse "defending the attacker" with injecting some nuance into a discourse that would be nothing but grunting and chest beating otherwise.

I never saw anything about him being against LGBT rights outside of Pence's shit. And I was neither a fan of Obamacare or the new Paul Ryan disaster which was even worse. I like the idea of stronger border control (not an all out ban), stronger military, less frivolous gov't spending, re-negotiating trade deals and increasing job opportunities. I don't give a fuck about the wall.

The confusion is because the ruling class have set up a false dichotomy in politics and told you those represent the whole possible spread of political opinions. So in America on the one hand you have the traditional republicans who don't worry about maintaining the system so much as extracting value from the workers as efficiently as possible and enacting a rigid structured system of "order" (hence the focus on "law and order") so that people don't have the means to speak out. Then you have the Democrats who have the strategy of appeasing people into upholding the system with the idea that if you give people just enough benefits you can keep exploiting them more indefinitely, but won't get as much out of them as quickly.

With minor variations this scheme more or less plays out in every western democracy every election cycle, but no real substantive overall change is ever offered. I'll tell you right now that there are Trump and Hillary "supporters" on this board, but they all either think that one of them will more likely lead to a real revolutionary reaction from the population, or that one of them will be slightly less bad for workers as a whole in the meantime. But, by and large, we all think that the system, by design, could only ever possibly offer you a "lesser evil" choice. It's not just a coincidence.

I'd honestly like to know why. Surely you're aware of our foreign policy disasters and that wars are being perpetuated only to maintain our bloated military industrial complex? Why would you want more of that, especially considering that these military actions are more or less the whole reason refugees exist in the first place?

Okay, but you said in the OP you can't be a leftist out of principle because you're a white guy. Now you just sound like a Wall Street Journal GOPe conservative that wouldn't be a leftist under any circumstance.

Pretty much. Though the stronger military is a bit ridiculous. We have 7 supercarriers. The next strongest nation is just getting it's second carrier. Also, our bloated military budget carries on the imperialism that drives immigration in the first place.

???
and since when has anyone in political power actually expressed these beliefs?

anyway if you support the things you do, like free healthcare, then why support trump. you don't have to be like one of your described "SJWs" to oppose him.

and the deplatforming depends. if they're fascists then i couldn't care less. fascism is a radical ideology, not liberal, meaning they use violence and direct action outside of the electoral system to enact their goals, making them a direct threat. crushing them anywhere they go is welcome.

and if you're asking "but aren't you radical too", yes, but i dont advocate corporatism and committing ethnic cleansing against minorites, and neither do you it seems.

we do freak when theres a terrorist attack, we just realize that they're mostly not commited by succesfull asylum seakers, but instead by failed asylum seekers and second generation kids of migrants. we also dont start blaming islam as a whole, just like how we dont blame christianity as a whole when a christian committs violence in the name of jesus

I didn't say I COULDN'T be, I was just asking how it made sense for me to be. There are millions of white leftists, obviously. I'm a Trump supporter but I don't identify as a conservative, I've always been a moderate, I guess.

I support Trump out of the sake of accelerationism. I also dislike him as well. It might be dumb but I like to dream.

You made all that shit up in your mind. But whatever keep your religion & die with it. Nobody misses the shittiness of the old world.

This isn't about identity politics it's about class, you're not part of the rich this shit doesn't benefits you in anyway but since Holla Forumstards love identity shit:
You have never been expelled from a restaurant for being white, you have never faced true racism or discrimination you can literally live your life normally don't shit me you don't. The shit they feed you at Holla Forums is mostly made up and you have never faced one of those cases in your WHOLE life. The dumbasses that get pulled out off platforms is because they're just being retards, baiting people all day. Glad Milo fucked off, IA, etc. There is a line between retarded humor and actually encouraging everyone to be retards if Twitter was my website I would have done the same. It's mine I don't want that kind of dumbasses around, only the funny retards never the serious retards. These websites that banned alt-right shit just did what they wanted and don't talk like Holla Forumstards wouldn't have done the same. Who cares. Good riddance.

I agree he accelerates but like with all Corporatist porkies I want him dead dead.

Don't be such an asshole to him, look at this:
He's a sincerely confused guy who has never seen an actual socialist. Don't be so damn antagonistic.

There are some severely assmad people here who are sore from dealing with stormniggers all day. It's unfortunately pretty expected

Yeah, I guessed as much. The worst effect of the stormfags is that they end up closing us off to newcomers. Instead of hearing about how we want to improve their material lives by eliminating pointless authorities who only exist to rob them of what is theirs, they see us throwing around long words, telling them to read books, and just generally being shut off assholes. In other words, we treat them the way liberals treat them and look no different. How many stormfags have we made this way?

Probably zero or very close to it. It's kind of a stretch to go from alt-light or libertarian like more younger rightists are to being a full blown nazi, and I really think it's kind of weird to think that getting into a fight with commies in a random corner of the internet would be that last straw for anyone.

I don't think anyone really gives a fuck what Lena Dunham says, acting like she's the metric by which you should measure all non-conservative politics is already disingenuous. I'm sure you'd resent if I used one of the vapid retards (one of many) that exists on the right spectrum to paint the entire ideology and render it null.

You /leftykikes/ have really hit a point of stupidity we never thought possible.

If you're still in this thread OP, this is a perfect example of the kind of rambling loony that you will become if you continue down your path of "I'm a white man" idpol. Eventually nothing you say makes any sense or has anything to do with any sort of material reality. You just end up sort of rambling incoherently about saving a culture you don't even really understand

Here on Holla Forums we don't consider your identity makes you a better or worse person at all. We judge you on your actions, and do not believe in collective responsibility.
We absolutely despise liberals, who are the ones pushing for that, and would gladly put them in gulags somewhere.
Now again, we try not to pay attention to whiny college liberals, they're hardly relevant anyway.

Without looking at Wikipedia, can you cite two styles of European architecture and two of their main architects?

That's IpPol we oppose. (and we're leftists, not liberals)

That's IdPol we oppose.

Some people do, I personally oppose this, even if the message is reactionary. Regarding internet platforms, most of them are run by companies, not wishing to host controversial content, and it's basically up to them what they want to do.

Question: how common is this attitude among Trump supporters?

Do you actually think that "freaking out" is the appropriate response to a terrorist attack? It shouldn't be suppressed or ignored, but have you considered that might be the reaction the terrorists want?

Overwhelming awareness of the fact that worse shit than most terrorist attacks happens every day. To put things in red tribe terms, you know how liberals freak out and want to ban semi-automatic rifles every time anything at all happens with one, even though rifles kill fewer people than knives, blunt instruments, and bare hands? It's like that. Terrorism is just a blip on the radar of horrible shit that happens.

Thanks to everyone for replying. Wish this didn't get bumplocked, but I appreciate it.