Sports under Communism

What would it be like? Would all players be paid the same?

They wouldn't be paid at all since it is Communism and wages therefore do not exist, it is retarded to oppose Communism to Democracy, it is retarded to present Democracy with the American flag.

What Jew made up this lie?

read the first paragraph on wikipedia

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This, the money commodity, is an artefact of an economy that produces for exchange rather than producing for use. Under communism, nobody would be paid for their work, and nobody would pay for anything that they want, production would be production for use and not production for exchange.

Communism aims to destroy the commodity-form and the law of value, and base the economy on the non-quantitative use values of things.

Under socialism, the lower form of communism, athletes would receive all that they need in exchange for performing socially necessary labor, such as playing sport for a viewing audience.

Under communism, professional athletes would simply receive things like food, housing, ipods, automobile, etc simply for existing.

Holla Forums, this attempt at "subversion" is pathetic.

More leisure would mean more viewing of sports and more participation in them. I think the overall skill level in sports would increase from the larger pool of athletes and additional practice time.

No more commercials would mean we could watch cheerleaders during timeouts instead of Gilette's new 25 blade razor or w/e

No more corporate glitter over the whole thing. Football/soccer, autoracing, etc. already has that hideous shit. The NBA is pushing advertisements on jerseys next year.

Removal of profit-motive would probably reduce the number of games played. Schedules are inflated with games to the point of putting athletes well-being in jeopardy, especially MLB and NBA. Now in the NBA they're discussing how to limit back-to-back games, but they'll never touch the 82 game season because $$$$$$$$$$

Well-being of athletes would generally come first. Probably the NFL would look a lot different, because the players are treated like total trash there. Players getting concussions, brain damage and generally life changing injuries that could probably be prevented. Also, pro-wrestling is really bad with wrestlers getting fucked up and dying early. Wrestlers in WWE are technically independent contractors and are too afraid to attempt unionizing because Vince McMahon basically has a monopoly on US wrestling

Liquidating the sports owners caste would be immeasurably satisfying to me. They are some of the most noxious and reactionary of the capitalist class.


also, pic related - an actual MMA fighter

Gilette is very convincing about their new blades. Maybe I should buy their newest ones every year…

Different trade unions have own teams.

I'm a practitioner and fan of all combat sports and I really do believe that socialism will be good for us fighters and fans

Any boxing fan will tell you how boxing has turned to shit because it has become about making money and being able to continue to make money rather than a pure competition between two people

Top boxers duck contenders for years, they give up belts rather than defend them, rigging is very common, being a professional can is an actual decent job

MMA has its own problems (and even more so)
MMA has a bad reputation because people see it as brutal so in order to make money they banned a huge number of strikes and pussified the sport, even though nearly all the strikes that were banned were proven not to be as dangerous as any normal strike

The UFC is also notorious for paying everyone but the top level fighters like shit, and since training is expensive you don't have as big of a talent pool as you would if they paid thier fighters decently

Even the top level fighters earn only 4% average of the money the UFC makes from that fight per fighter

Communism would put Gary Bettman at the guillotine, end the nonsense 2v3 and 6v7 playoff format, eliminate the shootout, and create a 3 point system so we don't deal with any magical overtime points again!

You could have pros if the community thinks having a good team is worth letting them train instead of work.

Which is pretty much the answer to the OP. People will play sports in their leisure, other people will watch. Some communities will want their team to be the better and agree the players don't have to work if they train instead.

it would be like the Soviet gymnastics program, full of rampant steroid abuse, dangerous use of Hgh and probably involve genetic engineering and biotech augments. It would devolve into roided out cyborg hyper sports used to train soldiers.

Wow women really can't fight worth shit. Like I know women are weaker than men, but every time I actually witness it, it always surprises me.

Every worker councils have it's own team…
that would comfy af.

They have lower physical capabilities so they usually can't demonstrate the skill men usually do. Still, they can be fun to watch

Enjoy it all you want and form championships, but no such thing as professional sports. It's a strictly non-productive activity.

The Soviet national hockey teams were among the greatest teams ever assembled up to that point. Check out some of their highlights on youtube to watch them dunk on NHL franchises in exhibition games

purge yourself

Or we could watch the sidelines, like they used to do on broadcasts back in the eighties. One of the best things about attending games is that you get to follow the crazy drama that happens on the sidelines between plays. Handegg broadcasts fucking suck, because they never show why or how anything happens. We never get to see the substitutions, the meetings, the adjustments. Hell, we don't actually even get to see the plays themselves! That stupid-ass sideline camera angle cuts out the entire secondary, and viewers can't see ANY of the blocking except the right tackle, which is most of the goddamned game! It isn't good for anything except following the ball, which is pointless. You may as well be watching that ESPN play tracker thing.

Linemen would become superstars if they were to broadcast the Madden camera angle instead. Watching a three-tech two-gap a stretch play is a sight to see from a good angle, and a guard bursting into the second level to cut off pursuit on a zone run is an athletic feat. Seriously, look up some old footage of Walter Jones in action. The shit he did was jaw-dropping, and audiences hardly got to see any of it live.

Improving yourself is laudable, but creates no value, thus it's improductive. Do it at your own expense.

Unless… you were planning to, horror of horrors, sell your now-heightened manual labor power. You weren't thinking of doing that, surely?

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And watch them get toasted by the Seattle Totems.

Professional athletes are entertainers. Their labor produces use-values.

Oh my god, that would be cool. It would be like the Milwaukee Brewers, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Edmonton Oilers, the Green Bay Packers, and the Seattle Mariners where a bunch of the players actually do those jobs.

A good point I guess, but virtually anything can be entertaining to the right audience. When does the merchantilization stops?

Indeed, but team sports have been entertaining crowds since long before capitalism turned it into a commodity. People just plain love to watch sports. It is intoxicating in a way that no other entertainment is. It is animalistic but with the added texture of complex rational analysis. It is a thing that we need to have in our socialist future.

Under Communism, Sidney Crosby would not be able to chop Methots finger in half and get a no call

In fact, I would put him up against the wall

Fuck sports.

Quite so. With no profit motive there will be no more officials giving preferential treatment to stars.

Jordan took five steps.

Fucking Chomsky. He makes intellectuals look like sad sacks who don't know how to enjoy life.

Silly question and I have a silly answer (from some autist's socialism 2.0 manifesto I read about five years ago): There will be different basketball classes, just like with boxers and weight, but here the distinction is based on height.

You make a good argument. So long as the professional sports market doesn't turn into a capitalist scheme, I'm game.

what community wouldn't?