Daily News Thread 3/23

Trumpcare fight gets worse, concessions to the Freedom Caucus likely
businessinsider.com/trumpcare-ahca-obamacare-house-vote-trump-paul-ryan-freedom-caucus-2017-3

The Republican effort to overhaul the US healthcare system faces its biggest test yet Thursday as members of the House of Representatives are expected to vote on the American Health Care Act. Given the precarious standing of the AHCA as it heads into the vote, the White House and GOP leaders have been engaging in last-minute discussions with House members in an attempt to win them over on the bill, but it remains unclear whether the bill will pass.

The largest bloc that must be won over for Trump and GOP leaders to pass the bill is the conservative House Freedom Caucus. The group, headed by Rep. Mark Meadows of North Carolina, has been against the AHCA since its introduction, the group says, because the bill does not deliver on the group's promise of fully repealing Obamacare. According to reports, the White House is willing to drop Obamacare's so-called essential health benefits — the provision that forced insurers to cover certain types of ailments. While this comes with a myriad of issues, not the least of which is possible pushback from moderates, it still does not seem to be enough to win over the Freedom Caucus.

According to Billy House, Anna Edney, and Jennifer Jacobs at Bloomberg, Meadows and the Freedom Caucus have asked that the provision of Obamacare that compels insurers to cover people with preexisting conditions be dropped, which the Trump administration has flatly refused.

Conservative action groups including the Club for Growth, FreedomWorks, and Heritage Action have come out against the bill, saying it does not do enough to alleviate their concerns with Obamacare. In addition, these groups have pegged the AHCA vote to what is called a key vote. This means that if a House member votes for the bill, the person’s "score" (a measure of how much the group supports the particular lawmaker) will drop and could in turn affect the House representative's support in the next election.

>theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/03/uber/520302/?utm_source=feed

Is the second impact coming boys?

#Free Novo

Thanks News user!

It has to happen at some point, but who knows when. If shit starts to go pear shaped in the markets the government will step in to try and stop it. Especially so for the tech market.
Didn't Uber's president resign fairly recently?

as someone who was planning a startup closely related to this field, I can tell you Uber failing is VERY possible. If Uber were to fail it will scare the shit out of VC firms and investors everywhere. Uber has kind of survived on fucking over their 'contractors' and distracting them them with how shiny and new this business field is but it's wearing off fast. Travis Kalanick being a very abrasive personality doesn't help.

There's two ways it doesn't take down the rest of the on demand industry with it on its way down. Companies ,new and old, drop the shitty 'private contractor' model and actually make their drivers employees OR they speed up the whole automation/self driving car process. Otherwise yeah, Second Impact.

youtube.com/watch?v=DUGsQqM2wZM

I fucking love that The Heritage Foundation is fighting tooth and nail to kill a program that they created.

true the russian government kinda snubbed the communists at the donetsk people's republic but the alternative is right sector

Why not just support neither side?

The inside of a nuclear reactor is always deadly
Youre not supposed to go inside

No war except class war.

Amen, comrade.

Reminder that animu pics make anything 100% less relevant.

Within the released tranche is a tool known as NightSkies, which allows the CIA to infiltrate factory fresh iPhones and track and control them remotely, granting “full remote command and control,” to the CIA.

NightSkies allows the CIA to take files from iPhones, including details from the owner’s phonebook, text messages and call logs.

The revelation that the CIA is physically infiltrating factory fresh phones suggests it has accessed an organization's supply chain, meaning they may be intercepting the phones as they are shipped to targets, with CIA agents or assets tampering with suspects’ phones before they have even been received.

Also included in the documents are details about a number of other tools employed by the CIA to infiltrate Apple products, affording the CIA a variety of command and control capabilities.

DarkSeaSkies is an implant that is found in the firmware of an Apple MacBook Air that runs in the background and allows the CIA command and control capabilities over a targeted device . A 2009 ‘user requirements’ document on DarkSeaSkies details how assets should install DarkSeaSkies.

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impressive revisionism

this isn't fun anymore guys, this is some next level shit.

Isn't all but confirmed that a lot of the big tech firms are majorly backed by the USgov/intelligence services
If so, it'd be really easy for them to do this

so that's what all that extra money goes

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Seriously, how many times can the media contradict its own propaganda?

nice

This tech bubble has been ready to pop for a while.

In this climate, it might well be the Big One that kicks the liberal house down for good.

>=[

This shit goes back to 2009 and probably earlier, meaning they have nearly a decade of experience with this shit.

Guys what the fuck.

DETRAS DE TI IMBECIL

The CIA is basically MJ-12 at this point.
Grey plague soon.

Okay, guys, in all seriousness…
How can someone learn that the CIA has infiltrated literally everything and be surprised? What the fuck do you think they've been doing for the past 20 years? Mixing up new recipes for crack cocaine? This is a terror cult of gangsters and assassins we're dealing with.

Because most of the stuff uncovered is "supposed" to be NSA turf.

I mean yeah, you have a point, but you expect this kind of technological surveillance from NSA goons, not CIA goons

Guys guys, what if, what if…

The NSA is just a front for the CIA?

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Comrades stop reacting to this everything is normal nothing to see here move along

What if that's just what the NSA wants you to think, and that the CIA being an NSA front is itself an NSA front?

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Researchers who sounded the alarm on increasing white working-class mortality blamed the trend Thursday on economic upheaval that created a web of social issues so tightly interwoven that even successful policies would take years to unsnarl them.
Mortality and morbidity, which measure chances of death or illness within an age group, began climbing in the late 1990s for less-educated whites between 45 and 54. That came as progress against heart disease and cancer slowed and drug overdoses, suicide and alcoholism – so-called “deaths of despair” – became pervasive.
Distress born of globalization and technological change probably drove the deadly outcome, new research by Princeton University’s Anne Case and Nobel Prize winner Angus Deaton shows. Their findings point to a cycle of despair that’s deepening: Middle-aged whites today are more likely to report pain and mental-health problems than their predecessors and are experiencing symptoms of alcoholism at a younger age.
“Policies, even ones that successfully improve earnings and jobs, or redistribute income, will take many years to reverse the mortality and morbidity increase,” Case and Deaton write in their paper. “Those in midlife now are likely to do much worse in old age than those currently older than 65.”
Less-educated whites are unique in their plight. Mortality has continued its long-run decline for whites with bachelor’s degrees, Hispanics and blacks. In 1999, the rate for whites between 50 and 54 with only high-school degrees was 30 percent lower than the mortality rate of blacks that age. By 2015, it was 30 percent higher, a cross-over echoed across age groups.
The problem bucks a global trend: Middle-aged mortality has been falling globally, even in other advanced economies like the U.K. Adult mortality improvements have been most striking in developing countries, according to United Nations data.
While high school-only Americans earn far less than peers with a bachelor’s degree – about 60 cents on the dollar – income inequality itself doesn’t seem to be the driver of white woe. Blacks and Hispanic Americans fare even worse economically, yet they’ve made consistent gains in combating mortality and morbidity. And in Europe and the U.K., where income divides have also widened, mortality has been declining across demographics.
In the eyes of Case and Deaton, a 2015 economics laureate for his analysis of consumption, poverty and welfare, the decline is a story of cumulative disadvantage. While minorities have a long history of economic struggle, white Americans could once expect a secure job, family life and future with only a high-school degree. But unions, factories and mines began to decline in the 1970s, taking with them high-paying jobs.

Churches Fade
In response, college attendance increased. Those who didn’t go found themselves in lower-paying jobs or left the labor market entirely, pushing down participation for those with less than a bachelor’s degree.
As opportunities eroded, so did institutions that composed the backbone of middle-class existence. Traditional churches ceded ground to creeds that emphasize individualism – as a result, people feel increased responsibility for their own successes or failures. Marriage became less common as men became less likely to work, leaving both genders with less stability.
“The story is rooted in the labor market, but involves many aspects of life, including health in childhood, marriage, child rearing, and religion,” the authors wrote.
Without their traditional moorings, whites increasingly turned to chemical crutches. Alcoholism worsened. Suicide climbed. And when doctors began to hand out opioid prescriptions more freely during the 1990s, addiction took root.

Narcotic Plague
These days, more Americans die from drug overdoses than car accidents – the former killed about 47,000 people in 2015, while the latter fewer than 38,000. Opioids specifically killed 33,000 people in 2015, and the vast majority overdosing are white.
“Although we do not see the supply of opioids as a fundamental factor, the prescription of opioids for chronic pain added fuel to the flames,” Deaton and Case wrote. “Controlling opioids is an obvious priority, as is trying to counter the negative effects of a poor labor market on marriage, perhaps through better safety nets for mothers with children.”
Case and Deaton’s story chimes with America’s recent politics. President Donald Trump did far better than Mitt Romney, the 2012 Republican candidate, in counties with higher drug, alcohol and suicide mortality, according to research by Pennsylvania State University assistant professor Shannon Monnat.
“Much of the relationship between mortality and Trump’s performance is explained by economic factors; counties with higher economic distress and larger working-class presence also have higher mortality rates and came out strongly for Trump,” Monnat wrote. “In many of the counties where Trump did the best, economic precarity has been building and social and family networks have been breaking down for several decades.”

dumb whites converging with minorities, while people with sufficient education break away from everyone else. Not much hope for people outside the right tail of the intelligence distribution under capitalism, there aren't enough jobs to go around in the world. We've reached levels of overproduction that shouldn't be possible.

Gee, it's almost as if hollowing out the heartland was a social disaster that should've seen all those autistic economists beep-booping about the benefits of globalisation dangling from lampposts

No one really disputes that globalization lowers labor costs and produces cheaper goods. The argument from mainstream economists is explicitly that the gains made by third-worlders and poor non-factory workers in rich countries outweigh the losses incurred by first world workers who would've otherwise manned the assembly lines, In short,

Economists: "Yeah, all those people in the Midwest are injecting themselves to death, but look at that Chinese middle class! You want your job back? You fucking racist enemy of the poor. Just learn to code you idiot. You should've gone to an elite university like me, except you're too stupid, hah!"

of course the costs of healthcare, education, and housing are all rising, and globalization pays a big part in this.

got too protect American companies' patents and doctors' salaries lmao
in the globalized economy, if you don't have a degree from at least a decent college you are useless
porkies have to hide their money somewhere so they buy real estate, since we've reached levels of late capitalism that shouldn't be possible and they can't find profitable investments

the reality is that globalization is basically protectionism for porkies combined with an expansion in the reserve army of labor for everyone else.

Because practically every model involved didn't - if not couldn't - take into account the wider social costs of wiping out the industries of entire regions because humans are fungible cogs in the machine. Leaving out the fact that at the end of the day economists are pretty much just the high priests of capital, and if the model doesn't actually show gains from trade they'll happily adjust the data and equations until it does

I'm not defending their argument, but you are of course correct.

Silly billy, they'll just move and find jobs elsewhere or go back to school :^)
Plus, they don't live in cosmopolitan cities, ergo they deserve nothing

No, you fucking retard, do you think Raegan was some kind of humanitarian looking to feed Indians?
Free trade lowered the price of manufactured goods dramatically, and that was the narrative behind it, competition, efficiency and getting those lazy union bums back to work, not feeding the 3rd world, the third world suffered huge losses too as all their infant national companies and industries got wiped out by well established western competitors.

Globalism as an actual ideological goal was created by Trump's candidacy.

but asians have seen a standard of living increase unlike anything else in human history and it coincided with globalism and out-sourcing. globalism spreads "wealth" but it makes people totally dependent on techno-capitalism and its convoluted supply chains. you really can't deny this, its backed up by standard of living and gdp per capita raising dramatically over time. its not sustainable and it will destroy China's social order but its the case that globalist capitalism raised more people out of poverty than socialism ever did.

China is a beast of its own. Dengism is NOT Neoliberalism.
Also I don't see how your post goes against anything I said.

I'm not endorsing mainstream economists' argument. Basically any mainstream economist will tell you that, in their view, globalization is good for exactly the reasons I said. We all know the "feed the third world" thing is a joke in reality, but this is the fantasy world that mainstream economists live in, or are paid to promote as actually-existing.

"we totally almost had a bad thing happen so we're putting cameras up people's assholes oink oink if you disagree you're a traitor oink oink"

No surprise there. Fucking everything electronic has been lowjacked since 2005. I had my brother put together a computer for me using only non-PRISM hardware. He had to use an old AMD server for the CPU and set it up with LINUX Tails. It took him forever to find a graphics card and a sound card that didn't suck and weren't lowjacked. He ended up having to solder new capacitors onto blown out old cards. Apparently, every harddrive in existence that is not too old and small to use uses a system that the NSA can crack remotely, so he made the machine so that I could disconnect the harddrive manually between uses.

The experience scared the shit out of him. He had never tried to build anything to run silent and run deep before, so he had not looked up just how much shit the NSA has lowjacked before. That shit is in everything from your harddrive to your fucking keyboard. Orwell couldn't have imagined a police state this thurough.

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No, free trade is good because it makes shit cheaper, that's the argument, helping the 3rd world is only an argument to bleeding heart liberals, not real economists, nor most right-wing politicians who push for it. seriously leave your bubble.

This is why people lose hope.

Let them watch, who cares?
youtu.be/L0SN29Ee8mo

Post all your logins and passwords here, please.

As soon as every other person in the world posts theirs. Tragedy of the commons works with surveillance too.

Senate votes to overturn FCC regulations on internet privacy
rt.com/usa/382102-fcc-privacy-resolution-isp/

Internet service providers may be able to gather private and sensitive data from their customers and sell it to the highest bidder, now that the Senate has voted to repeal some FCC regulations. On Thursday, the Senate voted 50-48 along party lines to approve a joint resolution that overturns Federal Communications Commission (FCC) rules relating to “Protecting the Privacy of Customers of Broadband and Other Telecommunications Services.”

After the vote, the FCC released a statement saying that if the rules are overturned, it will create “a massive gap in consumer protection law as broadband and cable companies now have no discernible privacy requirements. This is the antithesis of putting #ConsumersFirst,” FCC Commissioner Mignon Clyburn and FTC Commissioner Terrell McSweeny said.
Under the FCC rules, an ISP would be required to obtain “opt-in” consent from consumers before gathering sensitive information such as “geo-location information, children’s information, health information, financial information, social security numbers, web browsing history, app usage history, and the content of online searches and communications such as the text of emails.” That rule is scheduled to go into effect on December 4, 2017.

ISPs would no longer be required to notify their customers about information they have gathered, why they were collecting it, and who they are sharing the information with.

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The less regulations the more capitalism takes the blame for society's ills. This is a blessing in disguise.

Reminder that the London mayor said that terrorism is part of living in a big city DWI

HEY RABBI WATCHA DOIN'

Western media is reporting this solely because Trump is in the White House.

No he didn't. Stop fucking reading "news" distorted by right-wing media sites.

What he actually said was that the threat of terrorism is expected if you live in a big city which is pretty much common sense.

There was a reason that the IRA targeted London and not fucking Cornwall during the "Troubles".

The bigger the city = the bigger the message.

Not to mention the fact that pretty much all government activity takes place in London.

I seriously have no idea why so many people are throwing a bitch fit over what he said. It's not even like I like the guy considering he's an arch-Blarite who fucking congratulated George Osborne (a Tory MP) when he became editor of a major London newspaper. But this hysteria over his comments is just plain retarded.

FUck.

Not that Novorossiya isn't a cargo-cult-communism farce, but I see the Donetsk party was barred from one election a while ago due to a supposed clerical error, and I see nothing about Luhansk.

Google is returning confusing results. More details, please?

But… that's the exact same thing.

It quite literally isn't the same thing.

There's a difference between "threat of terrorism" and "terrorist acts".

The former was said in the context of advising Londoners to be vigilant. The latter would imply that that terrorist attacks are inevitable.

It's really not hard to understand why these are different messages

Alright, you have a point. I concede.

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I wonder who's behind that post

Apparently, he went through a bunch of Snowden's leaks and talked to a bunch of other computer nerds about it. I don't know that much about it. Try to talk to some computer guys about it. Privacy is a nice thing to have.