Why do you guys care so much about the working class? Fuck the workers class. The overwhelming majority of them are a bunch of spooked slackjawed hicks in cities instead of the backwoods. They constantly vote against their own interests and instead attack workers of different race,nationality, or even trade if it gives them an advantage over other workers while leaving the capitalist alone. They usually follow the most reactionary, literal, and harmful strains of religion. They often support and sign up for the imperialistic wars you hate so much. They have had almost 200 years to save themselves and they failed time after time.
Humanity doesn't need workers control or a workers state. We need to be guided by an educated elite (yes an elite) that is determined by merit and intelligence instead of capital and inheritance. The problem isn't bosses or exploitation the problem is capital doesn't and will never equal merit.
Jace Campbell
what about lumpenproles / NEETs?
Nathan Young
Yeah lets abolish it :)
Hunter Robinson
I agree with the assertion. But that doesn't mean we can't have both.
Thomas Morris
they can starve unless they can show they are unable to work
Except we simply need bosses to function in most workplaces. A doctor or civil engineer should have authority over construction workers or nurses, and honestly should be reward more for their more demanding job.
Luis Moore
Hello Porky.
Carson Williams
I'll bump your thread because I want the whole board to know that you're a moron, in case your flag doesn't do the job.
Christopher Walker
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Nathan Edwards
Because I'm working class.
Liam Perry
What do you think the current world leaders view themselves as? If you're a multi billionaire, as long as your name is not Trump and you're a vain idiot, you don't give a fuck about capital in itself anymore, it is only a means to an end. Look at the big billionaire families, the bankers, the oil tycoons and so on: You will see few of them flaunt their wealth and most actually live quite unspectacular lives.
Eli Harris
This.
Matthew Russell
no
Mason Gonzalez
That feel when I'm smart, but working class because of previous mental health problems (i.e. neet schizo tier)
Aiden Perez
watcha doing pol
Parker Anderson
my god how in denial are people on here? techno-capitalism is unstoppable and will consume all of us. leftism is a dyinng, outdated ideology
Thomas Taylor
sorry but yes, civil engineers are more useful than construction workers. i don't dislike the working class, but the immense training and focus required for skillful engineering versus skillful construction, there's just no comparison. even the greatest construction team isn't even 1/10 as skilled as a master engineer. Now if we're talking carpenters or stone masons, then i disagree. but just construction, moving around materials and throwing together others designs, that's a low autism level task regardless of the strenuousness of it.
Hudson Lee
I disagree but I have had similar thoughts in the past.
Anthony Wright
sorry but no
Hudson Martin
Love middle class commies who cant stand the fact that there is anyone who has more than they do
Kayden Rogers
I disagree.
Liam Jenkins
no
Civil engineers and construction workers are both working class. The skills of civil engineers are not special, they are given an artificial scarcity by putting a paywall in front of acquiring them.
t. weak pussy
Caleb James
Love imaginary things
Henry Price
Unless you are a porky owner of the means of production then you are part of the working class too.
Austin Sullivan
digging ditches and rebuilding engines are both working class work, the latter is an art and requires years of patient practice and innate cunning to master. the former can be taught to anyone in a few days. no its blocked off by aptitude sub-110 autism level people with bad visu-spatial processing skills aren't suited for engineering work and will struggle mightily with it lmao i lift 6 times a week and have more respect for most construction workers than i do engineers, i just don't think engineering is easy or simple or accessible to most people. i'm geniinely awed by people who can construct complex technologies in their mind's eyes and then materialize them into functioning devices. sorry but its a superior skill set, as horseback riding and swordsmanship are superior to skill with a slingshot
Kevin Harris
irrelevant shite
Joshua Rodriguez
I am literally a civil engineer and I am literally working class
I have infinitely more in common with the construction worker than I do the real estate mogul.
Read Marx, you silicone cocksucker
Cameron Robinson
>>>/liberalpol/ >>>Holla Forums >>>/out/
Jordan Jones
Fuck your elitism, liberal faggot.
Anthony Ward
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Nathaniel Ramirez
It's not a matter of caring about the working class you stupid cunt, but rather that the workers are the ones who both have an interest in the overthrow of capitalism and the numbers to do so. Also the vast majority of us are proletarian, and in all likelihood you are too. Kill yourself.
Hunter Allen
I AM THE WORKING CLASS
Isaiah Murphy
Because I fucking work, asshole.
Chase Foster
Hey porkie, whatcha doin?
Brayden Butler
Oh look. Another US-centric thread.
I grew up in the working class. Most of them are simply uneducated, frustrated people who don't know their own interests. They become xenophobic because first and foremost they! are put in rivalty with immigrants by capitalism. The declaying parts of the middle class are even more xenophobic, it's just liberal new middle class scum who like diversity as long as they profit from immigration. It was the proletarised middle class who elected Hitler, not the proles.
David Scott
I am working class. Fuck you.
Evan Brooks
you mean the white working class? i agree, im actually a self hating white person now. I know how self hating jews feel now as well…
Owen Walker
aka idpol yankee idiot.
Carter Jackson
no.
Adam Sanders
10/10
Ethan Ortiz
Holla Forums go home
Jeremiah Brooks
on the real, only a small fraction of proles are essential. those in shipping and receiving, logistics, manufacture, and so on.
Debord was right to call the service industry proles a new peasantry, made provincial by their geography in the city.
Both the essential and the non-essential proles are very spooked. OP is a spooked faggot too
Jaxson Gutierrez
so how are you gonna measure them?
Ayden Cox
So you're a mentally retarded yankee like the self hating non-white Americans on Holla Forums. Good to know.
Nathan Martinez
Not gonna read trough all of this garbage thread, so somebody has probably already pointed it out, but the answer is painfully obvious. Because we *are* fucking working class. Yeah, that's right, not everyone here are STEMfags with petite bourgeois aspirations who really need to feel superior to the dumb masses.
Humanity is a fixed idea, it doesn't refer to the actual individuals contained within "humanity". The working class however is fucking real, it is the reality of every worker and the workers need workers control. Bureaucrats cannot be trusted, no matter educated they are. They will always put their own interest above those of the workers.
I don't know why technocrats are even allowed here, they are worse than Nazbols.
Carson White
um what? No. I just stand against white supremacy and the majority of working class whites are white supremacists and racist. I just said I feel for jewish people who are on the left and see how racist/xenophobic their fellow jews are.
Colton White
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Camden Hughes
read what i wrote. I said the majority of working class WHITES have white supremacist tendencies and when the economy downturns they tend to historically become very racist and xenophobic. also yes, non class conscious jews can be very xenophobic and racist.