Newbie here, is a CEO a prole? He gets paid by bourgeois and does not own the factory, so why isn't he a prole?

Newbie here, is a CEO a prole? He gets paid by bourgeois and does not own the factory, so why isn't he a prole?

You have a LOT of reading to do

He is the bourgeois and he does own the factory.

Everyone who works for a wage is a prole.

Because he's an administrator for the bourgeoisie, and your station isn't simply an expression of the labor you do, but the functions of your labor. Cops aren't proles either, despite selling their work for a wage, because they act directly to uphold private property and all that that entails.

Don't the shareholders own it?

No, he owns the company.
The shareholders own him.

Cops are proles, they are just class traitors.

What is the difference?

The shareholders don't have any direct control of the company, you nimrod.

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cops are guard labour and fill a role that non-guard-labour proles don't fill

The CEO is usually a major shareholder in the company

Most CEOs own stock in the company. It's almost a prerequisite for modern CEOs.

That's where you are completely wrong.

Is someone bourgeois if he owns a store and have two workers but he doesn't just exploit them but do some work like accounting, have negotiations with suppliers etc and his profit is approximately equal to the wage which he would have for the similar job. I think he could create a cooperative under socialism. So should we send him to gulag?

No. Everyone who needs to work for a wage is a prole.

He is a petit-bourgeois.

Objectively wrong, if you work for a wage you are a prole, end of story.

Yes, a CEO is proletariat, except when he makes the majority of his income through stock, stock options, investments, and other such bourgeois methods like most CEOs do. Everyone is always up in arms about how big the salaries for CEOs is, but their salaries are usually not even most of their income. CEOs are often board members themselves.

That is true unless your salary is not your primary source of income.

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It's kind of a grey area because CEOs typically do own stocks, either in the companies they work at or in other companies. A CEO that didn't own any stock would technically be a prole, although by virtue of their elite position among the proles they are more likely to work with the bourgeoisie.

The best way to think of them imo are like native elites in a colonized country. Are they still natives? Yes, but their position in society predisposes them to co-operate with the colonizer.

I have seen such people referred to as the coordinator class. They are technically proles but their wages are earned from the mass exploitation of those under them.

Since they are actually given a shot at becoming bourgie themselves and their career/fate is bound to the company's success, they're typically sold body and soul to porky; if they're not, the company owners shall be quick to replace them with managers who are. They are therefore some of the biggest possible class traitors.