Wizards and Witches

Jayden Baker
Jayden Baker

Lets post Witches and Wizards.

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Grayson Bailey
Grayson Bailey

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Nathaniel Edwards
Nathaniel Edwards

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Isaac Williams
Isaac Williams

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Joseph Butler
Joseph Butler

witches
Women belong in the kitchen, not in magical rituals.
Unless you're a filthy savage sacrificing them to your animal god.

Also, sorcerers are homosexuals.

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Ethan Mitchell
Ethan Mitchell

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Tyler Young
Tyler Young

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Ayden Anderson
Ayden Anderson

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Dylan Robinson
Dylan Robinson

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Anthony Gutierrez
Anthony Gutierrez

no Wizard cRPG where you get to conduct experiments and try to become a lich
Why?

Jaxson Carter
Jaxson Carter

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Chase Young
Chase Young

because evil campaigns don't often get made into RPGs
you could always make it yourself. AGDG will help and Unity and Godot are easy to use

Bentley Sanchez
Bentley Sanchez

Why must a lich be evil? It's just a wizard that figure out how to prolong his life.

Brody Martinez
Brody Martinez

You can become a Lich in a campaign called: Descent Into Darkness in the opensource game Battle For Wesnoth.

Jacob Morris
Jacob Morris

Rollan

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Bentley Perez
Bentley Perez

Have my DnD mage collection.

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Brody Brown
Brody Brown

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Justin Sanchez
Justin Sanchez

Yeah, just make it deathless instead of undead

Cooper Long
Cooper Long

Why must a lich be evil?
The usual explanation is that the ritual to become a lich involves really evil and fucked up stuff, so only one who is really immoral and selfish can achieve this state.

Elijah Reed
Elijah Reed

Because only the baddest dudes can be that bad.

Liam Barnes
Liam Barnes

Aren't regular wizards already prolonging their life quite significantly simply due to MAGIC? I mean, when has a wizard actually died of old age and not because he 'fulfilled his duty'. Or because of demons.
A lich usually takes it too far and ends up destroying or using other life in order to sustain your his own, which might still be considered good in some utalitarian discussions of moral ethics, but generally is a 'bad' thing.

Zachary Scott
Zachary Scott

Prolonged life and undeath are two separate things. A lich doesn't take prolonged life too far, a lich actually dies and passes through the veil and then uses the souls of sacrificed babies to break his ass back out to become an eternal Un-Dead.

Jackson Sanders
Jackson Sanders

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Luis Robinson
Luis Robinson

Far as I understand it, to become a lich you need to make a pact with some evil entity, by it a god or a demon, and sacrifice the soul of a sentient being. It isn't exactly all that monstrous of a process.

Jacob Roberts
Jacob Roberts

Also, there's archliches, which can achieve immortality through complex rituals, instead of swearing allegiance to someone else.

Joshua Williams
Joshua Williams

(fucking nice)
Why not just find a god or demon that will accept the souls of orc children or something? It's not evil if you're having orcs killed.

Jayden Kelly
Jayden Kelly

The issue isn't the sacrifice per se, but the fact you agree to be the bottom bitch of whatever entity grants your lichdom. Seeing as most, if not all, of the powers that would grant you this boon are evil, I don't think they'd be satisfied with you killing a fantasy nigger.

Jackson Collins
Jackson Collins

What are the volupsa and sybils?

Asher Nelson
Asher Nelson

Because people are unimaginative retards that all stick to one idea of what something is and refuse to ever deviate from it. DnD invented liches and so that is what liches absolutely 100% have to be. Nevermind the fact that in most works, liches are just powerful immortal wizards.
You fucks are the reason why liches can't go around teaching poor people how to use necromancy to help them work their farms, overthrow their corrupt kings, and bring peace and prosperity across the land.

Julian Sanchez
Julian Sanchez

I come from /tg/ bearing gifts.

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Anthony Gutierrez
Anthony Gutierrez

You fucks are the reason why liches can't go around teaching poor people how to use necromancy to help them work their farms, overthrow their corrupt kings, and bring peace and prosperity across the land.
Oy vey goy, just give me your dead people.

Kayden Martinez
Kayden Martinez

Liches are evil because they literally don't have a soul and the process of becoming a lich usually involves more than making a phylactery. Typically some flavor of evil such as killing a loved one or child, destroying a home town, flaying a bag of puppies, etc. Its the immortal wizard's cheat to immortality since in most fantasy wizards have a different way to become immortal thats only possible at a higher levels.
Liches are basically bad wizards who cheat their way to immortality and lose most of their sanity in the process becoming undead who focus only on their desires with no concern for the world around them. Even if you came to a lich and offered to help he'd kill you and animate your corpse to have you better controlled.

If a DM lets you play a lich who isn't evil he's a bad DM.

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Nathaniel Wilson
Nathaniel Wilson

Best wizard coming though.

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Alexander Collins
Alexander Collins

If a DM lets you play a lich who isn't evil he's a bad DM.
There are morally neutral/good liches in some settings but the LA is retardedly high so why bother.

William Price
William Price

*lich variants

Jason Perez
Jason Perez

And old men in pajamas belong in the cemetary.

Michael Fisher
Michael Fisher

I'm just rolling to be honest.

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Ryder Roberts
Ryder Roberts

Old men in pajamas deserve to be in bed tucked in and with a glass of water within arm's reach. Worked at a nursing home for a bit and the way the women working there mistreat the old men made me almost beat the shit out a negress. Old men are the nicest people you will meet, if you give them allowance for their pride and don't patronize them.

Tyler Jones
Tyler Jones

Seriously? This far in and no one posts explosions?

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Noah Hill
Noah Hill

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Adam Young
Adam Young

What kind of life person needs to live in order to not have their own home in the old age and be forced to move to a nursing home? To not have children and/or grand children to adore and care for them? My grand parents were fucking amazing and never were left alone or in some goddamn nursing house. Neither will be my mother.
I may be cynical, but I believe you get what you deserve in the end.
Sage for offtopic

Lucas Allen
Lucas Allen

Implying that killing normalfags is somehow morally wrong
Liches are the only truly good mages since they free the NPCs from the prison of their existence and make them useful to the autistic mage masterrace.

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Mason Nelson
Mason Nelson

Simple, women went back to work and now no one can take on extra family members like they used to. It's also very different when a person can now linger with ALS for twenty years. Euthanasia is wrong but this is also wrong, so I'm just hoping for collapse.

Josiah Rodriguez
Josiah Rodriguez

Why must a lich be evil?
It's not called "cheating death" for nothing. Everyone has their allowed time on the material plane and must do the best they can with that time. Meanwhile, Liches completely ignore that truth and try to remain here far longer than they should or have the right to. This alone already sets them as selfish cunts since, unlike wizards that live as long as necessary but not for their own designs, Liches insist in staying here because they feel like it.

Secondly, where do you think the energy to be reanimated like that even comes from? We aren't talking about regular undead, where dark energy is enough to rise them or even some of the more advanced where you need a facsmile of a soul so they have basic sentience at least. We are talking a fully sentient creature that keeps all his knowledge, memories and mental faculties but is tied to a body that won't degrade.
You need energy that can only be found in someone else's soul and it doesn't matter how you get it, at the end of it you're still taking it from someone else.
That's the second reason they are evil, their immortality comes at a price that they force someone else to pay, and unlike vampires, they don't have the option to "just the tip".

You also have some more esoteric answers like in TES, where you have the Wheel of Life that keeps on turning, churning out souls into the void when they are cleansed of memories, and once every soul is clean, a new world starts anew. Liches are the fucks that simply sit on the wheel and refuse to get out, trapping every other soul into the void.

Jaxon Johnson
Jaxon Johnson

Humanity won't collapse in the next few hundred years, so our generation just drift along.
Neither will video games btw.

Wyatt Gomez
Wyatt Gomez

Old people are literally detritus. What they deserve is to be left to die, not to suck up everyone else's time and money. If you're going to beat a negress it should be because you wanted to, not for the honor of some boomers.

Leo Rodriguez
Leo Rodriguez

It's not that simple.
Old people aren't really that easy to take care of and you end up needing someone fulltime back home to do it.
Taking care of them with kids sounds like a nightmare too when they get to the point where they are too senile to be the "fun grandpa" that helps you take care of them.
At some point, old people become an hazard to themselves and even to those around them if they aren't carefull.

There's nothing wrong with rest houses in theory, it's the shit staff they usually have that makes the whole place look and feel miserable, otherwise it'd be a great idea to have professionals and even medical personnel tending to old people. And as long as you visit sometimes, even take them back home for holidays, it's cool too.

Killing normalfags is not morally correct. It's still murder, even if it's against lower creatures, you do not have the right to snuff their lives no matter how pathetic and miserable they are.
That said, morally is for fags that want to rely on others for protection. Wizards have no sense of right from wrong for a damn good reason.

Levi Roberts
Levi Roberts

Old people are literally detritus
Digusting.

Adam Lee
Adam Lee

That they are, that's why they need to be expunged.

Dominic Hall
Dominic Hall

Don't reply to obvious bait, idiot. It's just the idiot that jumps into every thread, sees what's the most popular opinion and acts like a contrarian for the sake of arguing.
Nothing good comes out of amusing him, he probably doesn't even agree with what he writes, just posts it for the sake of controversy.

Connor Turner
Connor Turner

muscle wizard best wizard
also rollan

Anthony Adams
Anthony Adams

THE WIZARD

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Jose Rodriguez
Jose Rodriguez

Disciples had somewhat-edgy wizards.

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Daniel Reed
Daniel Reed

There should be more victorian-styled witched and mages

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Luis Johnson
Luis Johnson

See thats the trick with being a lich, its not killing normalfags. Its always something personally hideously evil that serves to strip your humanity. Theres a reason why a living evil wizard isn't a lich, they're already stripped of humanity and just can't qualify for lichdom.
Pic related is the wizard

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Leo Walker
Leo Walker

That game was ridiculously hard. Played it on the megadrive in the 91 or 92. Died a hundred deaths.

Jeremiah Lewis
Jeremiah Lewis

which game is it ?

James Lee
James Lee

aye

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Ayden Clark
Ayden Clark

No there shouldn't, given the entire spirit of the age was one of secular rationalism. You'd have natural philosophers and chemists at most.

Luke Russell
Luke Russell

bargain bin, one 'n done version of Lina Inverse
Nah.

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Thomas Campbell
Thomas Campbell

No there shouldn't, given the entire spirit of the age was one of secular rationalism.
That's the point, user. There's satisfaction in throwing a fireball on the fag who told you magic is mere superstition. It also gives non-magic classes weaponry that actually gives them a chance to oppose a wizard.

Lincoln Sanders
Lincoln Sanders

Sword Wizard?

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William King
William King

sword guy
named archer
later magically becomes Pucci
I don't get this series.

Ayden Peterson
Ayden Peterson

king arthur is a woman
emperor nero is a woman
warlord nobunaga is a woman
It's a retarded series selling figures for waifufags to hotglue.

Julian Mitchell
Julian Mitchell

DnD liches are the only possible liches, right? In no way could a wizard be raised as a lich, one be made through artificial means, a person made one by a bored god, or a wizard turned into one by a cursed item. It absolutely 100% has to be an evil guy doing evil for the sake of evil, killing a thousand babies and kittens in the name of Nig'Nog, lord of the realm of darkness, suffering, and putting books on shelves out of order, to have his soul destroyed and become an immortal bone puppet of evil. Absolutely no other fantasy worlds exist and no alternatives are allowed.
If a DM doesn't let you play as something, he's a boring-ass DM with no sense of fun or imagination who likely railroads players and forces stat checks for every little thing.

William Nelson
William Nelson

Fate has a Penis Wizard, your argument is invalid.

Angel Hughes
Angel Hughes

waifufags' arguments

Angel Gutierrez
Angel Gutierrez

Way to out yourself, Goon.

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Noah Ortiz
Noah Ortiz

I wish someone would make a game around Archer's skillset. It would be fun to steal the enemy's weapons and use them against them.

Nothing wrong with waifus.

Juan Rogers
Juan Rogers

strawman

Jeremiah Green
Jeremiah Green

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Ethan Campbell
Ethan Campbell

No because thats the fucking meaning of a lich in fantasy. What you described is just a fucking undead wizard, a lich is always self made by his own hand.
Also a DM who actually puts some fucking limits on the players is one that gives a shit. I don't want my players being god damn fairies in my urban campaign nor do I want samurai in the wild west one, if it doesn't fit the setting it shouldn't be allowed and most fantasy has an evil lich. If you wanted a non evil undead wizard kill the wizard raise him as an intelligent skeleton or zombie.

Christian Lewis
Christian Lewis

So you're a goon AND a retard?

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Lincoln Morris
Lincoln Morris

If you played through Heroes of Might and Magic 4 campaign your MQ is very based death-nature wizard.

lich didn't do not'ting

William Smith
William Smith

rolling

Noah Moore
Noah Moore

rolllllllllllling too but I will reroll commie/carrot wizard.

Alexander Gomez
Alexander Gomez

Rollin

Eli Martin
Eli Martin

congrats, user, now you can finally be the little girl

Jaxson Roberts
Jaxson Roberts

no GTA like game set in the south of the USA in the 1910s or 1920s
where you play a KKK member and fight spics and niggers
where you drive around looking for degenerates to lynch
Why, God?

Landon Hernandez
Landon Hernandez

Since fucking when has there been universal definitions for fantasy settings?
So a race of holy people with divine protection, clearly of good alignment, who value and honor the life and wisdom of their ancestors enough to willingly bind their souls to a phylactery and live on as immortal skeletons through a completely harmless ritual are objectively evil? Or can this situation just not exist because liches can only be DnD liches?

Joshua Carter
Joshua Carter

Actually most lynchings were simply the courts handing the offender over to the crowd and letting them handle the execution. Vast majority were of whites as well, but blu blu muh nigs.

Sebastian Wood
Sebastian Wood

So a race of holy people with divine protection, clearly of good alignment, who value and honor the life and wisdom of their ancestors enough to willingly bind their souls to a phylactery and live on as immortal skeletons through a completely harmless ritual are objectively evil?
There's an official 3.5 setting that has exactly this. Pretty sure it's in Ebberon, NG mayan aztec mummy liches.

Christopher Young
Christopher Young

Mayan/aztec elven

James Phillips
James Phillips

It would be more satisfying to lynch niggers though.

Jackson Sullivan
Jackson Sullivan

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Caleb Murphy
Caleb Murphy

All this talk about liches gave me a random setting idea.
death is unnatural; entropy is caused by a great divine entity
needs souls to go through his great cycle of reincarnation; life => death => rebirth; to power up something, like water running a water wheel
mc accidentally becomes a lich; immortal and removed from cycle of reincarnation
struggle with morality as raised with belief that death is natural; overcoming that fear and living a good life is maturity(essentially take some real theological arguments from Christianity as to why God would allow suffering to exist)
but that's all just crap the divine entity has made people believe to smoothen things out
actually death is completely unnecessary and simply causes suffering as people are forcibly parted and get their memories wiped each time; also halts human progress etc. etc.
end goal would be to destroy the divine entity and unmake death in the world
Could be fun.

Aiden Ward
Aiden Ward

So literally tikkun olam. No thanks.

John Perry
John Perry

Congratulations! You just wrote the plot of your average jRPG.

Isaac Hill
Isaac Hill

rolling!

Matthew Smith
Matthew Smith

tikkun olam
Looked into it and don't quite follow. Mind elaborating?

Jacob Ortiz
Jacob Ortiz

Destruction of the world because "God didn't do a good enough job." Also the jewish theological excuse for their destruction of pre-existing social structures.

Joshua Ross
Joshua Ross

Also look into the kol nidre, the abolishment of all vows except to other jews.

Adrian Flores
Adrian Flores

I was thinking more along the lines of "kill YHWH and humans stop aging" or something more along the lines of everyone becoming Bodhisattva more or less, though.

John Hill
John Hill

finally a true man of taste and culture

Landon Sanchez
Landon Sanchez

everyone becoming Bodhisattva
That's retarded, if everyone is a bodhisattva, why would you need bodhisattvas? Their entire purpose is to help the unenlightened get past the state they (the bodhisattva) has chosen to stay in.

Justin Campbell
Justin Campbell

Oh, right. Forgot about that part, staying behind at the behest of whever it was again after he'd sat under the fig tree while ignoring all the gods trying to move him.

Well, I mean a state of being free from suffering. Then again, the buddhists argue that suffering stems from want rather than death so it's a poor analogy on my part.

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Hudson Cooper
Hudson Cooper

buddhists argue that suffering stems from want
Not quite, it's that suffering comes from attachment, which is not simply desire, but the state of identification with matter or consciousness.

Carter Wright
Carter Wright

I think it was somewhere along the lines of anatta, durkkha or anitya that I just threw up my hands and stopped reading about buddhism.

Jaxon Parker
Jaxon Parker

This could actually be a great idea. Dunno about the theological part, it's just a plot device but could be good too.

It kinda reminds me of Legacy of Kain, where there's an Elder God that feeds on souls and requires the wheel of fate to keep turning.
Vampires were an interesting boon due to the amazing amounts of death they caused but in time, they almost exterminated the whole world and every vampire is immortal so their souls are beyond his reach, so he sets Raziel to go after them to end their immortal life.

If I were to take this premise, you could instead say that the world has a limited static number of souls that are reborn over and over.
The Elder God feeds on the emotions of the living / the knowledge they had upon death / their life experiences / anything, really. But since he exists beyond the mortal realm, he can only feed on souls when they die.
He can't manifest himself but he can influence the world in several ways, creating war, famine, plagues and strife everywhere to keep people dying all the time. Natural death is actually a curse placed upon their souls before reincarnating.

Due to the constant death and war, no civilization advances too much. They can't travel to another plane of existance (thus they will never confront this Elder God) and their religious practices (created by a (((prophet))) of this Elder God) keep them indocrinated into believeing in an afterlife.

The MC would find some ancient ritual or a method that accidentally removes his soul curse and thus his body no longer deteriorates.
Instead, he starts to rise in power and knowledge, understanding more and more of the world and seeing everyone else as the lesser souls they are and what they could be, so he makes it his quest to free them from their curse as well.
The ultimate goal is for everyone to join the MC in the ranks of an immortal race of living souls that never ages and only accumulates knowledge. The Elder God fears this as not only it kills his source of food, it also means humans will eventually find a way to travel into his realm and fuck him up.

The MC's powers are indeed magic in a world where magic is very, very light for most people. However, as his knowledge of the world increases from not dying at all, his powers grow to incredibly ridiculous amounts to the point that the Elder God has to send several horrible abominations and finnaly trying to cause Armageddon just to stop you and kill everyone so nobody remenbers any of this.

It will fail since the MC will prevent it, build an Arkane Ark and take 100 of his best Battlemages with him, travel through a tear into the Elder God realm and fuck his shit up.
Then when the credits roll, you see several other universes, each controlled by their own Elder God and your task is now to fuck all of them up and liberate every other race. The potential for expansions and sequels is limitless.

Connor Ward
Connor Ward

Off topic but it always amuses me that the sanskrit term for knowledge is vidya.

Jeremiah Taylor
Jeremiah Taylor

rolling

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Henry Morgan
Henry Morgan

I had been thinking of using the accursed Lich angle more, setting up the MC completely alone and despised by the whole world. His only allies would be complete monsters who just want immortality etc. A sort of guerilla war against all of existence.

Reminds me of Nehrim, too. Though that got pretty over the top at times.
I think I remember an old banner that had that as a joke. I don't think I have it any more.

Christian Moore
Christian Moore

The word vidya is derived from the Sanskrit root vid, which means "to know, to perceive, to see, to understand"
Avidyā is a Vedic Sanskrit word, and is a compound of a and vidya, meaning "not vidya".
Avidyā in Buddhist literature is commonly translated as "ignorance". The concept refers to ignorance or misconceptions about the nature of metaphysical reality, in particular about the impermanence and non-self doctrines about reality. It is the root cause of Dukkha (suffering, pain, unsatisfactoriness)
<Ancient buddhists were already warning us that not-vidya would lead to rampant shitposting and lower board quality

This is some meme magic shit right here

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Hudson Davis
Hudson Davis

vidya = good
/a/vidya = bad
Fucking goons, those ancients.

Isaiah Gonzalez
Isaiah Gonzalez

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Cooper Cook
Cooper Cook

Still not a fan, this shit is like that cave man statue of a fat chick to me.
Its just not sexy exaggeration, except that last one.

Angel Miller
Angel Miller

The last one was actually me mistaking the thumbnail for another pic (the first one here).

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James Hernandez
James Hernandez

Oh come on, the one you like is the one with the niggerlips?

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James Stewart
James Stewart

Pray tell, how does the kingdom of cocksuckers fare, oh soyful traveller?

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Samuel Baker
Samuel Baker

Mein niegger.

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Lincoln Jones
Lincoln Jones

I kept trying to find some good clips to webm, but found nothing decent. Might have to dust off the old hard drives and make some.

For now, I found this.

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Christopher Russell
Christopher Russell

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Jayden Rivera
Jayden Rivera

Game is hilariously easy if you roll 3 mages and bow Lenneth.

Dylan Robinson
Dylan Robinson

Nobody posted the chart yet.
Step it up.
It had great art direction though.

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Nicholas Smith
Nicholas Smith

50
Awesome.

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Camden Young
Camden Young

Best witch right here.

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Henry Miller
Henry Miller

but it's in the op

Benjamin Flores
Benjamin Flores

Shit your right, I guess I'm a retarded wizard.

Alexander White
Alexander White

the checkum wizard doesn't at least require dubs to acquire
Poor show.

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Jaxson Rivera
Jaxson Rivera

If only NISA didn't butcher the game beyond all recognition. May they all die of fucking cancer.

Christian Cruz
Christian Cruz

Rollin!

Parker Taylor
Parker Taylor

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Jason Hill
Jason Hill

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Colton Jenkins
Colton Jenkins

7755
checked.
Proper seeding.

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Nicholas Rogers
Nicholas Rogers

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Jacob Reyes
Jacob Reyes

the ps4 version works, thankfully. i picked it up for $2.99. i know nothing about how poor the (((localization))) was, but it atleast kept the option for original audio.
fun game

she's a real human bean

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Cooper Cruz
Cooper Cruz

I SEE WISDOM IN THIS

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Connor Long
Connor Long

Sounds good. thanks for spoiling LoK you faggot

Gabriel Howard
Gabriel Howard

They don't. There's some truth to what said, though. But Gygax's own chart of where various monsters fall on the alignment spectrum had Liches under Lawful Neutral, not Evil. Over the years and editions, there have been all kinds of ways to become a Lich. 2e had a story about somebody who was so obsessed with research that they became one without realizing it, their will to learn tying them to the world. Elves have a good version of Lich called a Baelnorn. They even get alternative abilities, like astral projection. A particularly powerful and evil spellcaster will sometimes become a strange vermin-flavored kind of Lich called A Worm that Walks if its corpse is eaten by a mass of worms while it's retaining unused spell slots. An epic spell can force the transformation even if you're not Evil. On the post-apocalyptic world of Athas (Dark Sun setting), some Druids can cultivate a tree using their own blood that grows a massively toxic fruit that turns you into a Lich upon eating it, which I don't believe has an alignment requirement. Green Ronin put out a bestiary for Pathfinder with a very wild-themed variant that turns you into a Plant type pseudo-Lich called a Moss Lich, which is probably the most accessible of all options. No alignment requirement.

If you want to go psionic (master race tbh), the book Complete Psionic has a rough Lich equivalent called a Spectral Savant. They explicitly don't have to be evil; just tend to end up that way. Dreamscarred Press put out by far my favorite quasi-Lich, called the Mindborn, which is an Incorporeal Outsider that follows the general Lich design but swaps the Undead-related stuff for things like mind reading, shapeshifting, and telekinesis.

Liches are shown as badguys because it's easy, not because it's necessary. For your consideration, the only requirement to become a Lich is a caster level of 11 and the Craft Wondrous Item feat required to make the Phylactery. Just about any caster can make that requirement, even Paladins (Eternal Justice), Bards (The Show Must Go On), Rangers (The Hunt Never Dies), etc. And some systems (Pathfinder, maybe 3.x) have options for specialized crafters to waive the caster level requirement.

Adrian Kelly
Adrian Kelly

Forgot my images.

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Elijah Davis
Elijah Davis

Isn't this just a way to dissuade DMs from allowing edgy OCs from getting a free pass out of mortality? By making the entry fee some horrible moral event horizon instead of just some tasks that the edgelords will ask a DM to make a campaign around.

Grayson Brown
Grayson Brown

hasn't played LoK

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Nicholas James
Nicholas James

I can see it being a deterrent, yeah. But the books also seldom go into detail about what the ritual actually entails. Earlier books talked about blasphemous rites and drinking an instantly lethal poison, but that's about it. The DM is the one that's supposed to set up the hurdle to Lichdom, which I guess makes sense, if you consider it an adventure of its own rather than a character upgrade box to tick on your sheet.

Aaron Ward
Aaron Ward

rather than a character upgrade box to tick on your sheet.
Sadly, a lot of D&D players see everything this way, and get really upset if their character dies.
I guess I'll hit up for some GoG version right now…

Michael Ward
Michael Ward

upset if their character dies
That's not unreasonable, considering the amount of time and effort that goes into them. Emotion, too, if you're bothering to give a damn about the roleplaying aspect of it.

all they see their character as
I was one of those roleplay faggots, but honestly what's mostly turned me into a hack and slash player is a lack of DMs who will do anything else. I never feel immersed in a world when playing; it's more like looking the gameboard for Risk; just a map on which to move combat units. I feel I've become somewhat resigned to it.

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Justin Powell
Justin Powell

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Leo Rodriguez
Leo Rodriguez

rollerino

Jordan Martinez
Jordan Martinez

thanks for spoiling LoK
AHAHAHAH
Son, you have no fucking idea. This is no spoiler. It's the apettizer for what the story actually is. Compared to everything else, an Elder God pitying a Wraith against vampires because their souls are out of his reach is a cliché. You do not understand how good time traveling stories can be until you've played this entire series and seen the eldritch backstabs you are set upon.

Legacy of Kaine is literal art and not in the pretentious hipster sense. It's history is actually that good that the game can wear this label and spit blood on the face of anyone else that disagrees or thinks himself near it.

Jayden Gonzalez
Jayden Gonzalez

pic 3
not amplifying your shame by casting a positive feedback loop of shameful memories
not releasing your spaghetti in an explosion killing anything in a ten mile radius, including that disgusting whore on a pole
Nigger are you even an apprentice? Weaponized spaghetti dropping is wizardry 101.

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Mason Walker
Mason Walker

1st pic
He actually drew Marisa as the hapa she is. Absolute madman.

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James Hall
James Hall

Why has no one made a gun wizard game yet?
Conjure multiple flying ghost weapons for quad firing with machine guns
Paradox grenades which keep exploding for several seconds after being thrown
Teleport explosives inside enemies
Possess enemies in machine gun nests and do some friendly fire
Cast A-10 strafe runs

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Ryan Scott
Ryan Scott

That's not unreasonable, considering the amount of time and effort that goes into them.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but the entire "progressiong" that goes on in RPGs where you get XP and level up is actually far more harmfull than most people think because of this.

The extra investment into characters means it's harder to take them away from players since they have emotional attachment to them, and if you try to remove that, you get munchkins and powergamers instead that don't roleplay.
IMO, there's too much eggs on the same basket. A proper RPG would have the players polling resources into something besides themselves, like starting a Wizard Academy and playing as one of the teachers. Your character doesn't progress, but the school does, so if you lose your character, it's no big loss and you can play as another teacher for instance.

A simulated world that persists between deaths that the players can affect in some way would make for better gameplay in the long term than more powerleveling of a single character. Kinda wish that they went somewhere with the Leadership Feat in DnD, but sadly I think the closest one can get to this would be GURPS since character progression there isn't as linear nor does it lend itself to powerlevel bullshit.

He is trying to save a damnsel in distress from a Succubus, do you think he is a real mage? Probably some peasant that wants to look the part or hopes that the Succubus will "seduce" him. Fucking poseurs, man.

Nathan Williams
Nathan Williams

drew
a painting

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Benjamin Allen
Benjamin Allen

Did anyone expect anything less than softcore hentai with this thread?

Nathan Walker
Nathan Walker

Marisa is no hapa

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Charles Allen
Charles Allen

To be fair you do generally sketch out a painting before hand.

Luis Turner
Luis Turner

got some good discussion about liches as well as some ecchi.

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Alexander Phillips
Alexander Phillips

Underrated post

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Ayden Bell
Ayden Bell

wizards btfo

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Isaac Ortiz
Isaac Ortiz

Why is hobo wizard on there twice?

Thomas White
Thomas White

not knowing who Raistlin Majere is
Guy is in his 20s in that picture.

Juan Gutierrez
Juan Gutierrez

You never know where /tg/ territory will lead you son,that is why these threads are always worth it.

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Gavin Price
Gavin Price

Sorcery vs. "wizard" distinction is pretty cool historically. The term sorcery is actually descended from the Roman legal term for any religious ritual or "magical" practice or item (talismans, rituals, etc) that was not approved of by the state and integrated into the ecumenized pantheon. So the late Republic at one point had to subsidize and regulate the Bachnalia so they didn't happen every five minutes by making it illegal for more than two official sanctioned priests to participate.

Luis Ross
Luis Ross

Meanwhile, wizard is an equivalent term to doctor, one who is wizened versus one who hold doctrine.

Wyatt Johnson
Wyatt Johnson

I've actually done something like that in a game. The whole party had the Leadership feat, and we played our Cohorts as a second party in charge of logistics and support to help the Big Damn Heroes party.

It's called a drawing because you draw your utensil across the medium, as opposed to sculpting, where you remove material. Painting is literally a subset of drawing.

Yeah she is. She's a foil to Reimu, whose thing is purity. Marisa represents the clashing of worlds, where Reimu's power is derived from sovereign boundaries. Even her name was specifically chosen because it can be written in English or Japanese without complication.

Reimu - Marisa
Japanese - Hapa
Shinto Rites - Hermetic Sorcery
Eastern attire - Western attire
Shrine Maiden (Purity Required) - Witch (Physically consorts with spirits for power)
Hates Youkai - Obsessed With/Studied Under Them
Traditional - Wears fingerless biker gloves and keeps a microchip in her hat
Minimalist - Wears her getup and uses an unnecessary broom because that's what witches do
Supernatural purist - Supplements her abilities with magitech, and actual technology

Noah Jackson
Noah Jackson

Gentleman wizards are best

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Jose Parker
Jose Parker

Witch (Physically consorts with spirits for power)

Lewd.

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Julian Hughes
Julian Hughes

the entire spirit of the age was one of secular rationalism.
I don't understand what contrast is: The post

Jace Jenkins
Jace Jenkins

Gunbaado!

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Grayson Reed
Grayson Reed

Muscle Wizard
Cancer Mage was such a cool idea. I wish it had more support rather than three options that all end up completely broken automatically with time once you get them.

Nicholas Rodriguez
Nicholas Rodriguez

Cia
I knew I could count on at least one of you, friendorooneys

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Hunter Baker
Hunter Baker

arguing semantics
Don't act like there isn't convention with the separation between painting and drawing.

comfy wizards
Reminds me of blanket wizards desuarchive.org/tg/thread/337004/

Carson Nelson
Carson Nelson

Not true. Esoteric Practices had a huge boom in the west during Victorian times

Benjamin Thomas
Benjamin Thomas

Under the aegis of natural science and explicitly against the supernatural. Groups like the Society for Psychical Research discredited Blavatsky's mentalism (which is an easy task) while simultaneously promoting ESP.

Charles Williams
Charles Williams

Cotton the best

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Ethan Sullivan
Ethan Sullivan

I'm writing a book on the history of "magic" so I consider myself an expert on this topic.

Lincoln Nelson
Lincoln Nelson

victorian society using ESP to fight ghosts and shit.

id buy it.

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Kayden Russell
Kayden Russell

Lichpost

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John Sanchez
John Sanchez

cotton is pretty cute.

second thing that came to mind after the sorceress.

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Jack Baker
Jack Baker

I mean, the waters are even muddier than that, considering it's in all likelihood a digital illustration.

Dominic Diaz
Dominic Diaz

Pretty perfect.

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Easton Campbell
Easton Campbell

ROLLAN FOR TACTICAL

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Angel Gonzalez
Angel Gonzalez

Wow, so you just thought of the plot of almost every SMT game.

Ryan Martinez
Ryan Martinez

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Aiden Young
Aiden Young

Why?

Carson Martin
Carson Martin

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Kevin Price
Kevin Price

Are wizzards allowed?

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Brody Perez
Brody Perez

why not?

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David Gray
David Gray

Are wizzards allowed?

yeah sure, why two z though?

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Robert Bell
Robert Bell

Read a book nigger. Specifically the Colour of Magic.

Luis Flores
Luis Flores

quality magic user

Jackson Hill
Jackson Hill

I wish I was on my home computer so I can gather images of my wizard vidya avatars

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Camden Johnson
Camden Johnson

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Cameron Reed
Cameron Reed

8844

Nice dubs.
Odin
he doesn't look like a one eyed gandalf the grey.
I always get slightly annoyed when I see this but ill let it slide because George is a great artist.

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Blake Cruz
Blake Cruz

Odin had glamoury as well, though. He was master of all magics, including seidr.

Josiah Sanders
Josiah Sanders

I hope she returns. She and her two smooth mana jugs are too good to be lost in vidya character limbo.

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Thomas Roberts
Thomas Roberts

that's a big chest

Dylan Jackson
Dylan Jackson

Tranny wannabe witches don't belong in this thread nigger.

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Ryder Green
Ryder Green

Despite the name, this isn't THE Odin but his mastery of magic is something that is heavily underlined as he's most often referred through his "Magic Lord" title that was wrongfully translated as "Demon Lord" (admittedly, "Maou" is more commonly used for the later).

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Gabriel Peterson
Gabriel Peterson

Do you think the Zelda chest theme plays when you touch them?

Cooper Jackson
Cooper Jackson

considering that they are 2D and you can't touch them, it's hard to say for certain

Kevin Clark
Kevin Clark

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William Reyes
William Reyes

Maybe if Capcom magically grows its balls back, they can try a new Warzard. But better leave it alone for the time being.

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Jayden Gutierrez
Jayden Gutierrez

posting time wizards

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Juan Thompson
Juan Thompson

Is Dragon's Dogma the best wizard game?

Brandon Nelson
Brandon Nelson

David Duke is a real Grand Wizard
Restoring the pride of the Anglo-Saxon-Celtic man.
Restoring America with the secret arts.
Hooded figures burning crosses and practicing heremeticism…

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Eli Williams
Eli Williams

14549414
Best thread on Holla Forums

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Jack Evans
Jack Evans

phylactery is a second lich
That's real fuckin nito.
My greatest desire is to play a game where I can play as a necrocleric with heavy armor adorned with skull motifs, summon leagues of skeletons, and demolish armies.

Julian Gomez
Julian Gomez

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William Kelly
William Kelly

I've played a character that managed to become a collective hive mind of duplicate bodies, and each body was a phylactery for the entire rest of the swarm. You either killed all of him, or you wasted your time.

Austin Russell
Austin Russell

It's been a long time since i played ss13, is wizard still a thing people play? I know clowns have been a meme for the longest time, but every time I played every wizard was a fucking madman.

Hudson Morales
Hudson Morales

What are some good wizard games? Arx Fatalis is gud that I know, but what else?

Connor Robinson
Connor Robinson

The music is amazing, is that the original music?

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Asher Walker
Asher Walker

another lizard wizard to add to my collection

age up fetish is top tier

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Hunter Mitchell
Hunter Mitchell

roll

Adrian Morris
Adrian Morris

ROLLAN

Colton Reed
Colton Reed

Fuck it, I'm bored. Rollan.

Oliver Peterson
Oliver Peterson

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Kayden Reyes
Kayden Reyes

Witches?

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Jordan Jackson
Jordan Jackson

Rollin

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Benjamin Diaz
Benjamin Diaz

all this plot and worldbuilding just for some furry shit, i don't know who is worst, you for liking it, or the author for being so pretentious while knowing he just wanted to fuck a girl with a fox face and big tits

Hunter Thompson
Hunter Thompson

he doesn't like his smut to have deepest lore

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Zachary Miller
Zachary Miller

I actually thought the plot for this was cute. It's a shame that it's furshit.

Camden Russell
Camden Russell

Oh come on, I know you could find a non-furry equivalent if you looked. Here, is this close enough?
exhentai.org/g/1007064/3450416f3c/

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Daniel Scott
Daniel Scott

current year
viewing furshit as a negative

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Ian Johnson
Ian Johnson

tfw you'll never be a muscle wizard, wrecking other mages and then making a harem out of their apprentices

Zachary Walker
Zachary Walker

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Parker Reyes
Parker Reyes

(checked)
current year
It's [CURRENT YEAR] +3, you mong.
viewing furshit as a negative
I'll stop viewing it as negative when animal people exist and it becomes normal to fuck them. Until then, it's a fetish that degenerates ingulge in.

Parker King
Parker King

I'll stop viewing it as negative when animal people exist and it becomes normal to fuck them.
Soon

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Nathan Gonzalez
Nathan Gonzalez

female apprentices, homo.

Cameron Jones
Cameron Jones

What kind of wizard has female apprentices? They wouldn't even be training wizards anymore.

Colton Cooper
Colton Cooper

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Brandon Wilson
Brandon Wilson

Yeah those are called witches, or servants.

Nathan Collins
Nathan Collins

talks about furry
posts human instead

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Jacob Howard
Jacob Howard

Hence not wizards nor apprentices.

I see what you are doing there.

Jeremiah James
Jeremiah James

Nigger I just want a harem as a muscle wizard. Is that too much to ask?

Brody Sanders
Brody Sanders

Have harem
be wizard.
Pick one and only one.

Bentley Jenkins
Bentley Jenkins

Then just say that int he first place you ninny

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Kayden Bell
Kayden Bell

i'm currently running this setting
it's secretly /pol/ the campaign

Jaxon Fisher
Jaxon Fisher

System?

Carter Williams
Carter Williams

…Literally Gnosticism… Or Hereticism.
the 'great divine entity' is the Demimurge.

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Ethan Gonzalez
Ethan Gonzalez

Hereticism
I meant Hermeticism.

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Grayson Ortiz
Grayson Ortiz

it's gone through three over the years

Sebastian Ross
Sebastian Ross

Because the process destroys one's humanity.

shatter your moral compass with depraved rituals
rip your soul from the mortal coil
detach your mind from your soul

You are now three steps removed from being capable of even recognizing your own inhumanity. Evil is a natural state of being for one such as that. It's like asking "why is water wet?"

Xavier Murphy
Xavier Murphy

Not original, it's from the old Final Fantasy Unlimited Anime.

Jaxson Clark
Jaxson Clark

I remember one user posted the concept art of a sorceress who unfurled the scrolls she carried around into turntable setup and cast spells by playing it. Does anyone have that image still?

Tyler Flores
Tyler Flores

Shatter your moral compass.
Can a being without morals actually be considered evil?
I mean they are pretty likely to take evil actions but a lack of morality seems like it would just be True Natural.

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Easton Martin
Easton Martin

I'll stop viewing it as negative when animal people exist
But they do exist, in the world of fantasy!
Animal people would be cool if they did exist, but I'd prefer people not to fuck them.

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Hudson King
Hudson King

Doesn't True Neutral come with some kind of sense of "grand design", or motive for "balance"? Liches don't really care about a greater order; their acts are guided by supreme selfishness.

Jace Adams
Jace Adams

Sauce? I have a feeling I've seen that artist before but can't remember the name.Had a Tanuki guy in it.

Alexander Robinson
Alexander Robinson

True Neutral is the most diverse of all alignments because there are lots of ways to get there. Druids have an 'impartiality of nature' thing going on. Monks have a tao balance thing. Animals are incapable of making moral decisions and so default to it.

Ayden Martin
Ayden Martin

he can't use google images

David Johnson
David Johnson

👏Take👏the👏knot👏sweetie👏

Laying with animals has always been a historical euphemism for racemixing. Don't.

Elijah Roberts
Elijah Roberts

rolling

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Zachary Rogers
Zachary Rogers

What if you have xenophilia?

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Brandon Green
Brandon Green

I hate how we never get wizardy tools besides Magic attacks and shit. Dragon's Dogma kind of gets it by giving you floating powers to your jumps, but that's about it. A true wizard should use his wizard powers on his daily task, be able to see further away, cook food or shit like talking with spirits to get additional information to solve quests and whatnot.

Also, rolling
Please don't make me commie.

Grayson Sullivan
Grayson Sullivan

Not bad. Also rolling.

Elijah Fisher
Elijah Fisher

Then you post on /monster/ because it doesnt have a snout, duh :^)

Gabriel Butler
Gabriel Butler

Then mup da doo didda po mo to you, nigguh.

Isaiah Martinez
Isaiah Martinez

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Daniel Jackson
Daniel Jackson

implying Lamia don't have more magical aptitude than humans
It's like you want your kids to be shit at magic.

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Jacob Howard
Jacob Howard

second image

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Luke Rogers
Luke Rogers

rollan

Brandon Hernandez
Brandon Hernandez

It's actually Arche in both. First image is some old Inagaki artwork before he got replaced by Fujishima for whatever reason.

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Connor Cooper
Connor Cooper

Like all ages, there was a counter-culture. Look into the works of guys like William Blake

Brayden Fisher
Brayden Fisher

Rollan!

Kayden Garcia
Kayden Garcia

Rollan again cause didn't saw pic 5.

Brayden Reyes
Brayden Reyes

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Christopher Diaz
Christopher Diaz

Wizards who don't dabble in necromancy to make themselves immortal are top pleb

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Jeremiah Scott
Jeremiah Scott

nice thumbnails.

Isaiah Green
Isaiah Green

Tri-rolling

Julian Parker
Julian Parker

Rollan

Brayden Price
Brayden Price

I'm a thumbnail wizard

Dominic Jackson
Dominic Jackson

Rolling

Carter Sanders
Carter Sanders

Rollan'

Julian Carter
Julian Carter

69
pinball wizard
looks like neither robert daltrey nor elton john from the film
what the fuck is this garbage

Dominic Turner
Dominic Turner

fug it, i am rolling.

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Leo Wright
Leo Wright

==20 MINUTES==

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Jonathan Turner
Jonathan Turner

Let’s see what happens.

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Tyler Howard
Tyler Howard

44

Bluedubsmage.

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Parker Jones
Parker Jones

Unlimited power!

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Bentley James
Bentley James

Was he in the wrong?

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Jeremiah Long
Jeremiah Long

I'm interested in the character, but not the show, what's his story?

Joshua Torres
Joshua Torres

That's exactly why you shouldn't fuck animal people if they existed. Although I'll admit that animals are more aesthetically pleasing to look at than humans. I wish I could be one

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Samuel Foster
Samuel Foster

You are an animal.

Asher Anderson
Asher Anderson

Time wizard who's family got killed or something and he was trying to bring em back I think.

I wish I could be one
and also be happy with who you are. Otherkin and tranny shit is just cancer, be comfortable with yourself. I bet you're overweight, try to fix that.

Jordan Kelly
Jordan Kelly

Holy fuck, double trips.
Humans are animals, what's your point?

I am. Just some people can look like fucking hideous trolls, but that probably has to do with human psyche and whatnot, being part of the same species and all. But at the same time, fantasy concepts are interesting to think about. Like how would an upright animal society function? How would it differ? Etc, and so on. Animal people are interesting in the fact that they're like aliens, but they have similarity to things we know and understand.

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Nicholas Ross
Nicholas Ross

It's one thing to enjoy a cool setting like /tg/ does, but another to want to be a furfag. Please user, try to come to peace with yourself. Get /fit/ should that be how.

Adam Baker
Adam Baker

I don't understand how speculating the dynamics of a world with multiple varied intelligent species makes me a furfag. I don't want to fuck them or anything for that matter, instead looking at them brings back a sort of childhood charm and wonder, when most cartoons featured them. Different cultures of any sort have always been interesting to me. Elves, Dwarves, and Orcs are fine, but they feel like a human subspecies. Animal people are fascinating in a way because it's interesting to think of other ways civilization could function. Same goes for Aliens. Or maybe we are the way we are because of civilization and they'd be too if they were smart enough to do so.
You're also telling me you've legitimately never thought about what animal you'd be when you were a kid? Or other stupid shit like superpowers, or what time period you'd want to visit?
Gondolas are peaceful, here's one for you.

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Cooper Roberts
Cooper Roberts

I don't understand how speculating the dynamics of a world with multiple varied intelligent species makes me a furfag.
It doesn't
I wish I could be one
does.

Hunter White
Hunter White

rolling for 11

Jayden Adams
Jayden Adams

Again, it's just something interesting to think about. It's all just fantasy. Like the fags who think about being a Elf, Dwarf, Orc, or Wizard. Why do you insist on taking it so seriously?

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Adam Phillips
Adam Phillips

Sweetest sorc

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Liam Stewart
Liam Stewart

The Immortal

Lucas Allen
Lucas Allen

Why do you insist on taking it so seriously?
I am a very bitter furfag.

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Parker Peterson
Parker Peterson

rollan

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Andrew Phillips
Andrew Phillips

Touche. Have some vril-loosh.

Gavin Moore
Gavin Moore

accuses another of being a furfag
turns out to be a furfag
Why are furries so self destructive?

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Ryder Perry
Ryder Perry

turns out to be a furfag
I kinda played that hand already earlier in the thread, so I was assuming you knew that.
Why are furries so self destructive?
It's what happens when the entire internet hates everything tangentially related to you and you simultaneously hate the "community".

sage for OT

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Michael Bailey
Michael Bailey

I kinda played that hand already earlier in the thread
I rarely pay attention to IDs.
It's what happens when the entire internet hates everything tangentially related to you and you simultaneously hate the "community".
It's for that very same reason I hid the fact that I was actually a furry and your accusations were correct.

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Chase Ramirez
Chase Ramirez

It really does take one to know one huh?

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Wyatt Kelly
Wyatt Kelly

And thus it always turns out the most antagonistic group towards furries is other furries. I know I'm guilty of that.
Posting Wizard pepes so this thread doesn't derail as quickly.

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Juan Jones
Juan Jones

last image
Actual wizardry in a few months. I'm not sure how I feel about it.

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Cameron Hill
Cameron Hill

Be proud, user. With society churning out harlots, whores, and fuckbois en masse, be proud you resisted the temptations, had self-control, or kept them at bay via spaghetti shield. A life without a woman is a life that can be used for better things. Wizardry is what separates us from normalfags. Wizardry is the advancement of a man. No longer be a slave to your primal urges. Instead, let your mind be free. A majority of people will end up non-virgins. Why not be special and set yourself apart?

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Luis Garcia
Luis Garcia

That brings back memories. Never did finish the game.

Brayden Cruz
Brayden Cruz

Nothing wrong with waifus.

There is when they're gender-bender trash

Wyatt Flores
Wyatt Flores

The deal with him is that he is a time magician whose family and everyone else he cared about got killed.And he discovered this super powerful artifact that could rewind time but required gas-entire-species-and-sacrifice-their-souls levels of mana.
This naturally didn't really seem like a problem because hey, its not like they are gonna be dead when he rewinds time anyways.And that is all nice and dandy until he activates the thing.
All the mana he collected for 200 years and the direct tap from the source of all life only managed to send him back 20 minutes

Matthew Harris
Matthew Harris

a skeleton with tiddies

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Christopher Martinez
Christopher Martinez

whats the your guys opinion about warlocks?

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Carson Anderson
Carson Anderson

They are limited.

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Asher Clark
Asher Clark

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Benjamin Flores
Benjamin Flores

we need more warlocks in vidya dammit

Lucas Mitchell
Lucas Mitchell

wew, lets rolllllll

Eli Ramirez
Eli Ramirez

wizard needs food
badly

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Anthony Baker
Anthony Baker

If we are talking warcraft warlocks are good if you want to make everyone in the entire game world rue the day they ever installed in the game. In other games they are just slightly edgier mages.

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